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  • 12.10.2010 12:00 +0000 - 02.28.2011 12:00 +0000
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Calathea
Calathea

Should be fun, I guess this will be the first time benching subzero ram for many overclockers out there :) (including me)

Massman
Massman

I think most stages are doable on air cooling, but ... it's not going to be easy if you want low timings for ultimate performance :)

M.Beier
M.Beier

Lower timings isnt beating higher uncore.... But for the looks of it I still want to give it a shot :)

xxbassplayerxx
xxbassplayerxx

Well... I have the memory...

 

But not the IMC :(

 

Anyone going to be having fun with this?

Quake
Quake

When it ends? :)

placid
placid

Dominator GT area :(

Redwoodz
Redwoodz

No love for Athlons :(

xxbassplayerxx
xxbassplayerxx

Since SB is dropping in early January, any chance of them being added to the competition?

 

I remember the rumors about 2400 being cake on memory!

Massman
Massman
Dominator GT area :(

 

Hyper, PSC, D9GTR (Thuban), ... plenty of choice!

 

Since SB is dropping in early January, any chance of them being added to the competition?

 

I remember the rumors about 2400 being cake on memory!

 

Yeap!

 

First I have to verify the overclocking capabilities of the SNB, though.

xxbassplayerxx
xxbassplayerxx
Hyper, PSC, D9GTR (Thuban), ... plenty of choice!

 

Yeap!

 

First I have to verify the overclocking capabilities of the SNB, though.

 

Awesome. I'm definitely going to be trying it out and hopefully it'll set my Hypers free!

Shahryar_NEO
Shahryar_NEO

Cannot imagine how much I love to compete and regret I can't :(

 

Good Luck everybody .very very nice contest .

nolonger
nolonger

Awesome, I have two memory kits to try on my Clarkdale. I got a set of PSC and Hypers, should be fun.

MaJ0r
MaJ0r

Good competition! I think not only Dominator GT(GTX. etc) will be able to show us the magic ;)

Quake
Quake

And when it ends? :D I need to know till when we can submit scores

Christian Ney
Christian Ney

It ends the 28th of february

Don_Dan
Don_Dan

Any chance you can add S775 to the competition as well? Pleeeeeeeease... :)

 

And maybe make MemSet mandatory for this competition as well.

Massman
Massman

Good idea x 2!

 

Based on this score, I've set the LGA775 memory limit to DDR3-2100. Therefor, I'm expecting 550FSB 1:2 runs (or maybe 660 5:6 haha).

 

Will add memset/cpu-tweaker to limitation list!

Massman
Massman

Thuban and Deneb ;)

Don_Dan
Don_Dan
Good idea x 2!

 

Based on this score, I've set the LGA775 memory limit to DDR3-2100. Therefor, I'm expecting 550FSB 1:2 runs (or maybe 660 5:6 haha).

 

Will add memset/cpu-tweaker to limitation list!

 

Thanks PJ! :)

 

1050MHz seems like a good limit indeed!

Shahryar_NEO
Shahryar_NEO

what about 775 DDR2 ?

 

1300 is ok ? :D

ZFeSS
ZFeSS
I've set the LGA775 memory limit to DDR3-2100. Therefor, I'm expecting 550FSB 1:2 runs (or maybe 660 5:6 haha).

Any chance for P45/X48? :) Only two combinations will work - 643х7 (1070 mem) and 562х8 (1125 mem). Or someone will try 692х6.5 with 5:8 divider? :D

Don_Dan
Don_Dan
Any chance for P45/X48? :) Only two combinations will work - 643х7 (1070 mem) and 562х8 (1125 mem). Or someone will try 692х6.5 with 5:8 divider? :D

 

There is no 6.5 multi afaik. ;)

And there is another combination that will work, but currently I don't worry about maxing out the CPU max frequency too much, at first we have to get our memory up to speed. :D

Massman
Massman
Any chance for P45/X48?

 

Why?

TaPaKaH
TaPaKaH

I think there will be very few participants in S775 category ... 1000MHz 32M capable X48 boards are hard to find, not even talking about 1050 with high FSB / tight PL + subs

Massman
Massman

It's called a "challenge", not "children playground"

xxbassplayerxx
xxbassplayerxx
It's called a "challenge", not "children playground"

 

Zing!

Strat
Strat

Really good challenge out there :)

 

Massman, there a trouble for stage 4, we can't submit with Phenom II X4 955/965/970 BE.

These are Deneb Core no?

x00x
x00x

why my submission cancelled ? >> Lynnfield - SuperPI 32M

 

at least 1300MHZ, i've benched 1227MHZ and Lory'hacker @ 1 260MHz is good.

 

need some light for my cortex :)

_0CooL_
_0CooL_

socket 1366 is not lynnfield

 

# Only use processors using socket LGA1366.

# - A verification screenshot is required.

# - Please attach a picture of your overclocking rig.

# - Processor speed is limited to 4500 MHz.

# - Memory clock needs to be at least 1200 MHz.

# - Screenshot must contain MemSet or CPU-Tweaker details

Strat
Strat

Yes but no :D I can't submit with 955be. The bot tells me that I can't submit in this stage with this cpu. And I noticed in the cpu list there's missing also 965 and 970 BE.

x00x
x00x

ok, understood ! :

 

Restrictions:

 

* - Only use processors based on the Lynnfield core.

* - A verification screenshot is required.

* - Please attach a picture of your overclocking rig.

* - Processor speed is limited to 4500 MHz.

* - Memory clock needs to be at least 1300 MHz.

* - Screenshot must contain MemSet or CPU-Tweaker details

 

ido my Memory clock needs to be at least 1300 MHz and Only use processors based on the Lynnfield core

 

socket 1156 is good ? because it's hardiest to have =/+ 1300MHZ with 4.5GHZ ... ratio restricted ^^

RoccoESA
RoccoESA

sees good out

picture2ghce.jpg

is however unfortunately a error

redhat_ownage
redhat_ownage

my imc wont do 5GHz sadly but my ram does 2400 7-8-7 :P

Strat
Strat

 

Massman, there a trouble for stage 4, we can't submit with Phenom II X4 955/965/970 BE.

These are Deneb Core no?

 

Please Massman can you fix this, I can't submit...

Massman
Massman

Can you make a screenshot of the error?

Strat
Strat

Here you have :

 

captureec.jpg

Massman
Massman

Fail on my part!

 

Problem solved.

Strat
Strat
Fail on my part!

 

Problem solved.

 

Thanks!

 

Submission done :D

Massman
Massman

Nah.

 

Impressive submission done ;)

_0CooL_
_0CooL_

moahahahaha strate, really IMPRESSIVE

 

Your GT need some hélène :D ( rodeo time)

xxbassplayerxx
xxbassplayerxx

Looks like I won't be entering. I guess my Hypers don't want to do it, even with the 970 and the lower uncore it allows. They're good for 1800 C6, but I can't seen to get even 2000 8-8-8 32M stable regardless of voltage, and they're rated for 2133 8-8-8 24 @ 1.65V.

Massman
Massman

970 is Deneb right? Isn't the limitation there 900?

TaPaKaH
TaPaKaH

first of all, that's 2:3 misreported as 3:5 and second - other ASUS models / 790i can do it too

Massman
Massman

Show me! :-D

ZFeSS
ZFeSS
Show me! :-D

My first P5E3 Deluxe flashed into Prem. This sample was crappy about mem overclock, some others can do 1050 and more. I tried two P5E3, three Dlx and now get a Prem. All of them were capable for this:

diablo_cl8_32m5sao.png

2000+ is not a problem, but 2100 is.

honkie
honkie

Frustrating for Bloomfield users.

 

2400mhz memory and 4800mhz uncore

1.85 v and 1.64v for stability...

 

Keep on dropping a memory channel too lol

Splave
Splave

this is harder than I thought it would be even with 980x and gtx3 on SS cooling :0

Quake
Quake

Why is this no more team challenge?

chew*
chew*
this is harder than I thought it would be even with 980x and gtx3 on SS cooling :0

 

Pro tip.

 

Bloomfield will do 2400 ram easier.

Quake
Quake

But 4800 uncore is hard

Quake
Quake

I didn't said it isn't possible, but it is hard... I know some of them won't do 4.8 no matter what and some of them will go even higher

Quake
Quake
Why is this no more team challenge?

 

Anyone :)

Massman
Massman

Dunno ... sometimes we do a team competition, sometimes we do user competition, sometimes country.

 

There's no specific reason why this is a user competition :)

Quake
Quake

But wasn't this in the first place team competition? And then renamed to members? :)

 

If not, then I missunderstand something :D

Massman
Massman

Hm, I don't think so.

 

I think I would remember, because I have tried to reconfigure a member competition to a team competition in the past and completely messed up the engine. Instead of being a team competition, it was a combination of user and team competition :D

x00x
x00x

Question :

 

Why memory restriction différence between lga 1156/1366 ?, because spi32m more efficiency under 1366 tri channel.

 

I find that there is an imbalance and I also find it more easier to obtain frequency in 1366 than in 1156.

 

in short, why not put the same frequency as on similar architectures 1156 and 1366 ?.

 

excuse me for bad language, you can answering too in french ;)

Massman
Massman

LGA1366 is more difficult to reach high frequencies with because of the MEM/UNC ratio on Bloomfield and of course the extra stress of 3x DRAM instead of 2.

 

That's why the required memory frequency is lower for LGA1366.

x00x
x00x

yep ...I dont have x58 architecture in the hand .... but ... sandy wait now

oanvoanc
oanvoanc

wow, just figured out there is a competiton like this going on.

 

honestly, its not quite cheap to own all the required hardware :D

 

1366 board + cpu

1156 board + lynnfield + clarcdale cpu

am3 board + deneb/callisto + thuban cpu

775 ddr3 board + cpu

 

thats a minimum of 2000 euro for all equipment necessary :D

 

is there any word about the prices?

good luck for everybody participating! :)

Massman
Massman

No prizes - this is just a competition for fun :).

oanvoanc
oanvoanc

ok, thanks for the fast answer :)

x00x
x00x

my wife is angry !!! 8 hours for tame the ace of my clarkdale with his rotten memory controller... no sleeping with my wife but i'm happy ^^

x00x
x00x
LGA1366 is more difficult to reach high frequencies with because of the MEM/UNC ratio on Bloomfield and of course the extra stress of 3x DRAM instead of 2.

 

That's why the required memory frequency is lower for LGA1366.

 

now, i understand

Massman
Massman
my wife is angry !!! 8 hours for tame the ace of my clarkdale with his rotten memory controller... no sleeping with my wife but i'm happy ^^

 

:P

 

For Clarkdale, it looks like Gigabyte's providing the best BIOS. DDR3-2100 should be possible on all boards, though. Tested 3x 655K and they all did the same clocks under single stage.

Quake
Quake

What about sandy bridge for this? :)

Massman
Massman

I was going to, but haven't quite figured out what limit to use.

 

4.5GHz is easy, so memory should be more challenging. But maximum memory clock is just function of the maximum possible BCLK.

Quake
Quake

But we would have to find a way how to tight it as max mem clock wouldn't be hard to achieve

TeamAU
TeamAU

sandy bridge doesnt really fit the criteria of max mem clock, it is so dependant on CPU and max bclk it sort of goes against all the other rounds of this comp :(

Massman
Massman

Only reason to do it, I guess, is to see how well you can optimize Sandy?

 

Initial thought: 4500MHz CPU + DDR3-2200 minimum? Might be interesting to see anyways

Quake
Quake

Exactly, you can run 2200 no problem, but now it depends on latency...

 

Edit:

 

Guys, how much VTT are you using?

TeamAU
TeamAU

can frequency be 4500.x or does it need to be below 4500.x?

Massman
Massman

Has to be below 4500MHz.

 

4500.1 > 4500 :)

TeamAU
TeamAU

okay perfect,

 

i was hoping we wernt going to see any 200 * 22.5 on amd!

Massman
Massman

200 x 22.5?

 

What kind of dividers do you have on your board?

Hondacity
Hondacity

m4e has a super ram multi ...

chew*
chew*
200 x 22.5?

 

What kind of dividers do you have on your board?

 

Think pros referring to the floating bclk ASUS has which is why I supplied other forms of measuring speed with my submission ;)

 

That or that it doesn't take mush effort to hit the speeds on AMD.

 

Comp for AMD I think would have been far more interesting with locked multi chips or a fixed multi that you set in the limitations.

TeamAU
TeamAU

well at 200 * 22.5 it is all too easy, standard bus speed, just set the ram ratio to 2000 mhz, set the nb and run your bench

Massman
Massman

Wow, your amd has a 1:5 mem divider? :-O

TeamAU
TeamAU

lol sure yes it seems i just made up a new memory divider,

 

asus/gigabyte can we please make this happen? i dont want to hear about platform limitations either...

 

250 bus is what i was meaning to say :P

Calathea
Calathea

I did go sub zero on ram at last. Check out stage 4 :)

TaPaKaH
TaPaKaH

was subzero on RAM the only way to get 93x 6-6-6 ?

Calathea
Calathea
was subzero on RAM the only way to get 93x 6-6-6 ?

 

No as chew pointed out hypers will do this on air, but I doubt all will do it with less than 1.8+ vdimm ;) -4 on the mem gives me somewhere around 20 MHz on same volt. I could run 937 6-6-6 @ 1.775 (bios set). Pretty low considering these sticks are nothing special, Dominator 1600 cl6. I'll check volt with dmm some day.

TaPaKaH
TaPaKaH

mine just stops at 940 stable, at 952 it passes memtest but fails on reboot and at 960 i get no post at all

same story with multiple kits I tried

Calathea
Calathea

On which platform?

chew*
chew*
mine just stops at 940 stable, at 952 it passes memtest but fails on reboot and at 960 i get no post at all

same story with multiple kits I tried

 

Sam,

 

Use Turbo V.

 

AMD's IMC freaks at 940+ with deneb especially for booting. You kinda have to finesse it from that point on.

 

I also suggest using older chips, one's before amd started doing low K dielectic on deneb tend to fair better with higher vdimm.

Calathea
Calathea

I can not recommend turboV, it has a nasty habit of setting crazy voltage after a reboot (2.5 vdimm and such :()

chew*
chew*
I can not recommend turboV, it has a nasty habit of setting crazy voltage after a reboot (2.5 vdimm and such :()

 

weird, must be a CH3 thing then, m4a79T has a diif version, works fine.

Calathea
Calathea

Yes it's possible - but now I use tweakit instead :)

Calathea
Calathea

Just got off the phone with my ln2 supplier, it's gonna be a fun weekend!

Dinos22
Dinos22

congrats pro, didnt even need to submit inthose two categories eek :)

Moonman
Moonman

Daamn, should have one 'Lynnie' in my reach but already too much rigs :D

 

Very nice competition bot :D

Hondacity
Hondacity

pifection!

Calathea
Calathea

It was a nice comp :) Cred to chew* for beating us in stage 4 with a SS.

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