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As announced in an earlier news post, in 2010 HWBOT will be holding a monthly Overclocking Challenge. In contrary the competitions held in the past, this series of challenges we will be using a variety of current generation low-end and old-skool high-end hardware. The aim is to give overclockers an alternative for the daily HWBoint hunts and, of course, just to have fun with low-cost hardware.

 

The first challenge of the year 2010 will be all about the GeForce4 series. We'll be using the 3DMark03 benchmark; whoever scores highest wins the competition.

~ http://hwbot.org/competition/hoc_jan10

OFFICIAL WALLPAPER THAT NEEDS TO BE USED FOR ALL SCREENSHOTS: http://i49.tinypic.com/2m9zbm.jpg

Questions and remarks go in here

Rev3-bot is taking over ... I cannot stop him

Nice idea! Cool gift for the New Year!

oh joy an agp card contest?

wow, proper old school. Gunna have to dust off the agp setup.

Just one suggestion: Make please better wallpaper, than it was on CCup Make it pleasant for eye, not that ugly stuff before

I can help, if needed, just drop pm

Background has been attached to this post :-)

JPG direct here

JPEG res was too big for forum

oh joy an agp card contest?

Doesn't have to be ...GF4 PCX 4300 was an MX 4000 with an AGP->PCIe bridge...not that it'd be competitive or anything

The Terminator is here, He can stop him !!!

Want to add it, but admin page gives me errors when trying to see the competition.

I have not read this thread, I did not upload the wallpaper, then ...

I suppose you will be rebenching the card anyway?

Yes, I will rebench the card (:

The photos are here. I'll submit again with all problems solved.

I tthink the "use background" limitation is missing from stage.

also showing the details should be a must

Yes, I want to add all limitations to the competition, but the competition admin page is not functional at the moment :-/

Updated the competition page with the benchmark limitations.

can i take a pic of my rig instead because it has a nice case

or open case and make picture?

Hi,

Codename NV17, NV18, NV19, NV25, NV28 ?

lg Matti

Hi,

Codename NV17, NV18, NV19, NV25, NV28 ?

 

lg Matti

yes matti

alle von hier http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia-GeForce-4-Serie#Modelldaten

http://hwbot.org/browseHardwareVideoCards.do?gpuFamilyId=4

The engine allows cards visible on this page

mh, was ist mit Quadro4 900XGL ( NV 25GL) ?

http://hwbot.org/browseHardwareVideoCards.do?gpuFamilyId=169

Quadro4 != Geforce4

HI, danke

lg Matti

PS: Turrican, man sollte doch mal überlegen AGP Karten besser zu bewerten @ HWbotPunkte, der Zeitaufwand ist viel größer.

I might join in with:

Pentium 670 @ 92mm noctua cpu hs.

Asus P5VDC-MX

2Gigz DDR2

4600TI with improved cooling + vmods coming.

+ Random the stuffs.

Why's everybody running such "crap" chips at such "low" frequencies?

E8600 @ 3GHz on Asrock board, GF4200 @ 344/700MHz on water... Tempting, I hope I can get my board back in a hurry

Why's everybody running such "crap" chips at such "low" frequencies?

 

E8600 @ 3GHz on Asrock board, GF4200 @ 344/700MHz on water... Tempting, I hope I can get my board back in a hurry

thats not very old school... i use to have an asrock 939dual, it was a great board for me...

It's the way I would've liked to see this play out though.

You guys need me to bring out the AthlonXP?

mh,

competition limitation: your submission does not comply

Please attach a picture of your overclocking rig.

sorry, is on

German supremacy !!!

Why's everybody running such "crap" chips at such "low" frequencies?

 

E8600 @ 3GHz on Asrock board, GF4200 @ 344/700MHz on water... Tempting, I hope I can get my board back in a hurry

Just wondering is there any Asrock AGP board that supports Wolfdales... Well my p4 is at low as 3.8GHz

just need to grab the board from work and recap+flash the 4600TI

They support it, but not the 333FSB ones.

OCMARTZ

ich bin wieder vor dir :)

http://hwbot.org/competition/hoc_jan10

Hey guys, don't forget to indicate the brand of the VGA card you're using ... always nice to see the stats on that

They support it, but not the 333FSB ones.

They do, but the FSB wall is around 300MHz. Stock is 200x10

They do, but the FSB wall is around 300MHz. Stock is 200x10

Oh, must be a new bios update then. I had the PT880U based board for a while and a Wolfdale-based CPU was locked in multiplier x6. Couldn't change the MP, so ... :-/

Damn the TI4200 i got is damaged, cant run any 3D-App without crashing, even after swapping cooler and underclocking.

könnte auch am CPU takt liegen, ab 3,4 GHz kommt bei mir die gleiche meldung.

lg

3.4GHz sounds good

I want to learn how to do some overclocking and thought this would be a good opportunity to learn it. Since the hardware is older the costs shouldn't be so high. But are components even available on new or second hand market? Or should i have most of the component on hand already?

is Xeon 2,4 @ 3,4 / sockel 604 default Vcore (no Pinmod.)

max score 2247

Wings of Fury max 142

@DShadow: you need a AGP-Board+CPU (there are even some newer boards with more recent sockets) and the gfx card (look at ebay)

@DShadow: you need a AGP-Board+CPU (there are even some newer boards with more recent sockets) and the gfx card (look at ebay)

And aftermarket vga coolers are those still widely available? For the older vga cards?

You can even use newer ones, you only have to look for the distances of the holes of the cooler (dont know the word for that in english ). It should be the same like my GF6200, its ~53mm.

Good competition ^^

Looks like backup games are in progress

I think i'll put Thermalright HR05/IFX as hs for my 4600TI, should cool enough with good fans =P

Hope there will be a SocketA or a GF6 competition, have the hardware for it

I thought this was dead

Cool,

I think VGA memory isn't so good. The card is the same like in these scores:

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=556169

Only 290MHz on memory :-/

Looks like backup games are in progress

different system sorry no cam

lg Matti

As I expected ... memory is not great. I'm running 285MHz stable max.

Is everyone still running stock voltage?

Graka all Vtage defauft

Tomorrow VMOD

GPU takt super, one moment please, i ll try it with my Ti4200

Massman AGP driver is missing, (AGP8x @ pci ) ^^

yeah, alex is right. you need to install the chipset/agp drivers

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=940360

4200 Ti 8x AGP 64 MB

great result matti:celebration:

nur 12 ter von 19 voll kake da hätte default auch gereicht, sind immer 0,1 Punkte.

bitte mehr Punkte für AGP

i need a ti 4600 my medion ti 4200 has sh*ty ram and the other ti 4200 has a sh*ty core - i need an combination of both

yeah, alex is right. you need to install the chipset/agp drivers

How ... did I miss that.

I suppose the difference will be quite noticeable?

How ... did I miss that.

 

I suppose the difference will be quite noticeable?

i suggest a score about 2050. good core but weak ram - i know this problem

for me it is the GPU clock, Ram is OK

i suggest a score about 2050. good core but weak ram - i know this problem

More voltage should fix that problem .

Has anyone seen benefits from increasing the AGP bus frequency?

Yes, artifacting and dead cards

Ok, so that was my problem yesterday.

@ AGP 69 MHz / 1,65 Volttage

@ AGP 76 MHz / 1,65 Voltage

Interesting!

What about AGP @ 50MHz?

im bummed, my geforce 4 is direct 7 and 3dmark03 wont run full benchmarks. just the wings of fury.

im bummed, my geforce 4 is direct 7 and 3dmark03 wont run full benchmarks. just the wings of fury.

yep, the geforce 4 mx series only have dx7, so only the first test will run.

^^^ and score only 3 digit

The art of this stage is.. hard to find GF4 Ti, AGP mobo with oc capabilities or C2D processor support

^^^ and score only 3 digit

The art of this stage is.. hard to find GF4 Ti, AGP mobo with oc capabilities or C2D processor support

3dmark03 is mostly gpu-depended on gf4 ti cards, so there's no "uber" cpu needed.

the highest score ive got so far is 344.

amd socket a xp 3200+ overclocked 2517mhz. MSI geforce 4000 mx. 330mhz gpu/287mhz memory

very good, GeForce4 MX 4XXX Rank 2

GeForce4 MX 4XXX Ranking:

1. pxhx - 449 marks

2. egm_xt - 232 marks

3. AlinRazvan - 145 marks

4. Joni- - 103 marks:

GeForce4 Ti Ranking:

1. D'n'B - 2679 marks

2. Matti OC - 2324 marks

3. OCMARTZ - 2320 marks

4. Lippokratis - 2282 marks

5. Despair - 2159 marks

6. Dan Jacques - 2127 marks

7. Gotcha - 2103 marks

8. Dirk@B - 2101 marks

9. Massman - 1962 marks

10. Johni5 - 1847 marks

lg Matti

I would suggest that the validations are required for competitions hwbot to prevent fraud. It is important to the results above suspicion in competitions. What do you think?

I ll post a submission tomorrow. i was trying to get 350 out of the setup. I read I can do pin mods on my socket a athlon and overclock further -- so im going to try some of those.

I would suggest that the validations are required for competitions hwbot to prevent fraud. It is important to the results above suspicion in competitions. What do you think?

Whoever cheats/commits fraude in an HWBOT competition is banned for life. I hope that shows how serious we are about this

very good, GeForce4 MX 4XXX Rank 2

 

GeForce4 MX 4XXX Ranking:

1. pxhx - 449 marks

2. egm_xt - 232 marks

3. AlinRazvan - 145 marks

4. Joni- - 103 marks:

 

GeForce4 Ti Ranking:

1. D'n'B - 2679 marks

2. Matti OC - 2324 marks

3. OCMARTZ - 2320 marks

4. Lippokratis - 2282 marks

5. Despair - 2159 marks

6. Dan Jacques - 2127 marks

7. Gotcha - 2103 marks

8. Dirk@B - 2101 marks

9. Massman - 1962 marks

10. Johni5 - 1847 marks

 

lg Matti

Hi guys,

Do those both rankings mean that the final ranking will be splitted in two?

Low-end GeForce 4 on one hand and High-end GeForce 4 on the other hand?

I have seen no reference to that in the presentation of the competition.

Thanks

Un-official ranking ;-)

Thanks Massman,

but will it give points ?

How do you mean?

Well for exemple during the MSI Extrem Speedster, the Corei5 were given points depending on all CPUs, but at the end of the event, the best Core i5 was given 10 points in each stage.

In the Hwbot OC 2010 challenge, le MX 440 are ranked with the Ti. Let's say the stage is over. Pxhx who is the best in the MX 440 has 0 point. But will Hwbot create a new ranking (as for MSI Extrem Speedster), in order to rank the MX440 separately?

I do not know what will be the stage 2 in February, and depending on the hardware that will imply stage 2, this new ranking will be useful or useless, I mean if GeForces 4 are included or not in stage 2. Except if you create for each stage of the Hwbot OC challenge both high-end and low-end rankings.

Cheers,

The idea of the oc challenge is to have one stage a month, not two or subrankings or anything like that. If we start doing this, we end up having to split up the competition in a number of rankings equal the the amount of hardware categories we have ... which makes it too chaotic an uninteresting.

The reason why the chosen platform is so old is to allow interested people to go to ebay and find a card to participate ;-)

Ok that's perfectly clear, so we can already say that MX440 will have no point

Do you have any financial interest in ebay ??? Juste a joke

Buying a GF3 also has no point .

I mean ... it's a competition ... it's not "make-everyone-feel-like-a-winner"-day

Un-official ranking ;-)

Mattis´Ranking

(Ich wollte nur etwas fair sein)

Anyway, that's a really good competition !

You've done a really good job here.

HI, Cooling: Air @ Zalman / default GPU / Ram Voltage

not bad

mh,

GT1 ist ein C2D ca. 10-20 FPS schneller

zB.

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=850986

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=860968

lg Matti

PS:Treiber 44.03 @ Riva (Z...) bringt nichts im 2003, deswegen stehe ich auch vor dir :)

http://www.hwbot.org/listResults.do?gpuModelId=877&applicationId=2&filterUser=true&filterBlocked=true&sli=false&limit=100

I think C2D is only faster because the transfer rate from AGP to CPU (NB bottleneck) is much higher. For instance, on my XP platform, I see no scaling from increasing the CPU frequency, but huge scaling when I increase the FSB frequency.

I ll post a submission tomorrow. i was trying to get 350 out of the setup. I read I can do pin mods on my socket a athlon and overclock further -- so im going to try some of those.

You can.

Installed the voltage modifications ... let's see how high this card goes on air cooling :-)

mr. scott. could you share how you raised the voltage on your socket a processor? Ive been searching the web, my a7n8x-vm doesnt have the option in the bios, i must resort to pin mod.

At this point I dont know if its my cpu or motherboard holding me back. anything over 178mhz fsb or 2517mhz cpu speed. maybe more voltage or maybe its fsb... i read the 166fsb xp 3200+ chips didnt support higher fsb speeds?

It's most definitly the FSB; I saw quite a difference between 240 and 250MHz.

Btw, I just hit 2200

my a7n8x-vm doesnt have the option in the bios, i must resort to pin mod.

 

I'm afraid that's your only option for that board.

Installed the voltage modifications ... let's see how high this card goes on air cooling :-)

GPU

325MHz - stock (1.77V?)

330MHz - 1.8V

345MHz - 1.9V

355MHz - 2.03V

360MHz - Black screen at any voltage

=> 357MHz at 2.05V; GPU ~ 35°C load

It seems that I'm hitting a wall at around 360MHz I can increase the voltage over 2.1V, but it doesn't help me get it more stable.

MEM

566MHz - stock (3.45V?)

600MHz - 3.55V

610MHz - 3.66V (with artifacts)

615MHz - 3.6V (heavy artifacts)

=> 620MHz at 3.6V; MEM ~ 50°C load

620MHz isn't always stable and I have heavy visual artifacts. The score still scales upwards, so ... I'm fine with it. Increasing the voltage up even further doesn't help, so I guess the only thing left to do is decrease the temperatures

GPU :

325Mhz : stock ( 1.66v )

330Mhz : 1.75v blackscreen / crash

330Mhz : 1.82v blackscreen / crash

330Mhz : 1.90v No boot !

#@$!#

MEM :

610Mhz : Stock (3.50v)

Vmod mem ... soon

new mobo ... soon ^

Hi :

4800 Ti

GPU

325-330MHz - default (1.66V)

350MHz - 1.7V

355MHz - 1.75V

370MHz - 1.8V (H²O)

375MHz - 1.85V (H²O) (MHz noch am Testen)

MEM

740 MHz (3.17V) keinen Mod.

2003

ca.

GT1 ca 6800 finish FPS

GT2 ca 1200 finish FPS

GT3 ca 1170 finish FPS

lg Matti

PS. GPU ist nicht grade (Kühler liegt in der Mitte nicht auf ) / vielleicht Planschleifen

-GPU is not exactly,........

mr. scott. could you share how you raised the voltage on your socket a processor? Ive been searching the web, my a7n8x-vm doesnt have the option in the bios, i must resort to pin mod.

 

At this point I dont know if its my cpu or motherboard holding me back. anything over 178mhz fsb or 2517mhz cpu speed. maybe more voltage or maybe its fsb... i read the 166fsb xp 3200+ chips didnt support higher fsb speeds?

Have a Athlon XP 2200+ and a A7V600-X and runs on 1.8V Vcore stable. I set on board a jumper to overvolt, then is 1.6-1.8V available.

Tommorow

Opteron 146 2GHz@2.95 vs Asus ti4800 se vs kingmax ddr1 500MHz vs MSI K8N neo2 Platinum vs 8c out temperature

Btw, Massman, why nothing stated in rules about awards for winners?

Almost none of small competitions have even a word about rewards

I mean not 10000$ prizes, but simple things like trophy or cup for first TOP5 members.

This will get more people , competitive idea, battle for trophy , you know. Not only just for geeks who can mess with ancient videocards.

I mentioned this: "These challenges will not feature big money prizes, but the winner does get a special achievement award" in the newspost .

Not top-5 of course, only the winner gets an achievement

Hi,

LN2 vs AIR

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=940781&title=Highest%20score%20of%20D'n'B

http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=942818&title=Highest%20score%20of%20Matti%20OC

lg Matti

Ti4200 vs Ti4600

Yeah matti gets First with 2717 3dmark`s

Who will break 3k ?

Who will break 3k ?

mh, vllt. 2,8 k

lg Matti

Sorry guys I just gather my last 2 liters of LN2 and I manage to squeeze 2909 valuable point on same setup. Because 2899 looks like a incapable score and I don't use backups.

Now really I'm retired and watching you. Good luck to everyone.

My secret weapon has arrived!

I'm going out for 50L LN2

too bad my ge force its onde of the first to come out. So its not fully compatible with 3d mark 03 but i still got the 21º position lol

Cumpz

Looking for other vmode change my Ti4600, if one of you to help me ...

Go Belgians, have to wake up, must post scores!

What type of Ti4600 you have? A normal reference PCB?

My secret mainboard cannot be used ... it's shipped with the wrong bios :-/

Sorry for your motherboard ...

I still vmode my motherboard too, I hope it will grow even more ^^

My card is an Asus Ti 4600 V8460Ultra Deluxe (see picture of my oc)

And my motherboard is an Asrock 4CoreDual SATA 2 with a QX9650...

Hi, Pin mod. ? oder VID mod.?

lg Matti

Hehe, got my board now, some random fujitsu board with AGP and LGA775 socket, fair enough. But is something wrong i only got 833 points at first run everything at stock.

Hehe, got my board now, some random fujitsu board with AGP and LGA775 socket, fair enough. But is something wrong i only got 833 points at first run everything at stock.

which geforce 4 are you using?

is it running with agp 4x/8x or "PCI"? if it's running with "PCI" you need to install the chipset/agp drivers.

4600TI 4x, and got it running now

2080 etc 311core and mems at default