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GIGABYTE Z97 - Pentium AE Beat the Heat Challenge

Closed User Competition Online

Information

General

Starts
24 Aug 2014, 12:00 UTC
Ends
28 Sep 2014, 23:59 UTC
Status
Completed

Stages

Ranking

Discussions

Massman
Massman

Starting in about a week. Ready, Set, Go!

Xtreme Addict
Xtreme Addict

Great rules to be honest. Something for AC/WC enthusiasts (XTU stage), lucky draws, something for LN2 clockers, nice stages, great prices, cheap cpus! Good job

t8y
t8y

sold my z97-SOC and just use my z87x-oc for 1150 (x08mod2 fine for g3258)...

 

doh

 

 

edit: point of post being, any chance of a rule change on that front...?

Christian Ney
Christian Ney

It would be cool to be able to compete with a Z87X-OC since you can win a Z97 board at the end.

Massman
Massman
sold my z97-SOC and just use my z87x-oc for 1150 (x08mod2 fine for g3258)...

 

doh

 

edit: point of post being, any chance of a rule change on that front...?

 

Hey, just double-checked and this competition is Z97 only.

QuantumX
QuantumX

Where can the X BIOS be found that supports Pentium G3258? Retail F6 only goes up to 2.1v for RAM

topdog
topdog

Is there an X bios for the standard Z97X-SOC motherboard (non force) ?

t8y
t8y
Hey, just double-checked and this competition is Z97 only.

 

no worries. thanks for checking :)

still, shame, hoped we'd all moved past the "Use X chipset mobo to win sameX chipset mobo" type rulesets.

 

though there is also actual cash on offer, which is awesome.

 

guess in hindsight i should have actually tried to win the z97soc-ln2 that OCAU is offering up :D

or just not sold my other z97 so soon

 

too cash strapped to hang onto too much "doubled up" gear atm sadly

Dinos22
Dinos22

Get cranking boyz

Moose83
Moose83

Bios is limited in Vcin for me Sofos :)

leeghoofd
leeghoofd

It's an Anti-Moose protection, live with it Holger :P

 

steponz
steponz

Can we also say that ln2 on memory is not allowed in stage 1.

Mikecdm
Mikecdm
Can we also say that ln2 on memory is not allowed in stage 1.

 

Well, stage 1 is for enthusiast, novice, and rookie. They'd be extreme if they decide to use Ln2.

saint19
saint19

Topdog will participate?....this is gone be interesting...

 

Good luck to all of you guys...

barti27
barti27

HWBOT Prime what it really so far

 

Icke&Er
Icke&Er

Why the Z97x-SOC Force LN2 ist not allowed at this competition? It is not a kind of ES-Hardware and benchable for air/water/...

Are there any reasons i have missed?

 

MFG

skulstation
skulstation

it's almost imposibel to find it on saile for the moment,and ther whil be other thinks to not alow it

Massman
Massman

Yup, it's hardly available in retail and gives too much an advantage in memory clocking.

Icke&Er
Icke&Er

ohh man....this is the only Mainboard i have for this CPU

Strat
Strat

For the first stage, no negative temp allowed but for example 5° is ok right? Thanks!

Splave
Splave
Yup, it's hardly available in retail and gives too much an advantage in memory clocking.

 

smart decision imo

leeghoofd
leeghoofd

Can we also ban any 6.1+ CPU ?

Mikecdm
Mikecdm
Can we also ban any 6.1+ CPU ?

 

Those are easy to come by, I got two.

nvidiaforever2
nvidiaforever2
For the first stage, no negative temp allowed but for example 5° is ok right? Thanks!

 

anyone?

steponz
steponz

Why are chillers allowed in stage 1... So far, thats whats leading it.. pretty obvious ...

Massman
Massman
For the first stage, no negative temp allowed but for example 5° is ok right? Thanks!

 

Sorry missed this one.

 

No sub-ambient cooling allowed. Pretty sure 5°C is sub-ambient in France these days :P

hotrod717
hotrod717

So chillers are now accepted for enthusiast league submissions??

HOMECINEMA-PC
HOMECINEMA-PC

We are using air and water . That's not extreme cooling . So am i an enthusiast ? Or we chiller users be put into our own league ??

A ruling needs to be made once and for all .

Massman
Massman

A chiller is sub-ambient and therefor not allowed

HOMECINEMA-PC
HOMECINEMA-PC

Okay , I was speaking in general but fair enough . I can I unplug it from the mains but can I still run it inline in my loop ? I will be using the reservoir thats inside the chiller . Would Rig pics showing this in the submission be acceptable ??

hotrod717
hotrod717

My previous sub was straight up water, but since I continue to see chiller and "ice bath" subs still up and pointed for, I'll throw my hat in the ring with this submission. (thumbsup!)

Limecoconut
Limecoconut

mine will hardly run xtu anymore 4900mhzs fine but 5000mhzs now it just hardlocks.plus xtu isn't using more of my memory which is probley hurting my score

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

My 364 was ambient water. Haven't tried any ice bucketed water.

Limecoconut
Limecoconut

memory in xtu is my issue/and water dripping off my water block onto my board dosnt help either

Limecoconut
Limecoconut

my use's 1189 mem where everyone else 1500+ mem in xtu I don't understand it

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

Would running maxmem prior help with that Lime?

Limecoconut
Limecoconut

don't think it will beleave I tried that

Limecoconut
Limecoconut

hoping to get more into this benchmarks but im working 50hr+ a week and not much time when I get home to do them but ill keep trying

Chilli-Man
Chilli-Man

For Stage 1 with XTU, are sub-ambient results (using chillers or ice) going to be invalidated, or should I be grabbing myself a bag of ice on the way home tonight?

Chilli-Man
Chilli-Man

2 degrees C is obviously not sub-zero, but is still below ambient. Seems that's what people are doing, but I'm not sure it's legal? Or if those results will be removed at the end.

newlife
newlife

Massman has already said anything sub ambient is not allowed in stage 1 which includes ice

Chilli-Man
Chilli-Man

Yeah, saw that, which is why I haven't been using any. Just wondering how that works with the results that have already been posted that are sub-ambient.

Uncle Fester
Uncle Fester

Lol what about people who ambient temps are 0-4c

newlife
newlife

You mean like when it's 4am-6am here in Adelaide :P

Chilli-Man
Chilli-Man

*starts packing for Antarctica*

Uncle Fester
Uncle Fester

WTF Dino... Participating in your own comps and winning.....

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

Wait for me Chilli!!!!

 

So will the runs with ice buckets be removed if no ice is allowed? As I'm fairly certain a few of the top runs are with ice slush.

HOMECINEMA-PC
HOMECINEMA-PC

Im gonna bench xtu again before 6am t'morn ..... supposed to be 5c

zeropluszero
zeropluszero

these temperature controlled competitions are just causing more heartache. I think the specifics of what can and cannot be used need to be much clearer in the future.

"sub ambient" might mean quite a temperature range between people. "a minimum of 5 degrees" is a much more clear.

Chilli-Man
Chilli-Man

Nah, don't worry about it. There's no need for that.

Dinos22
Dinos22

Crazy chips guys, love it

newlife
newlife

So what's the deal with water coolers? 2nd in XTU is using an intel water cooler set to 10c and maxing at 96c with 1.7v while 1st is maxing at 68c with 1.75v and he also has his cpu under load in the SS to hide his idle temps. If you ask me this is bull and not very fair to newcomers after massman said no sub ambient

Dinos22
Dinos22

If you feel that certain score is pushing the rules, report them so that moderators can have a look at them

Wizerty
Wizerty

Newlife, read correctly the chart ;) the 2nd is ONLY 53°C , not 96°C... at the and of the benchmark...

The left value (green) show the T° depending of the mousse position in the chart.

In #2 screen, it's 1seconde before the end of the benchmark, and it show 53°C

In #1 screen, it's 67°C... so 14° higher than #2.

 

So if #2 is at 10°C , then at 20°c you will have something like 10°c more ;). Moreover, NvidiaForever CPU HIS is removed.

 

I'm not a judge, so I'm not tell screen is legit or not, I just give you some key ;)

 

Edit : add picture in attachment :

Red circle show T° at the end of the benchmark in both case.

Blue circle show ??? nothing :D

To display 96°C, just stop your water cooling pump in IDLE and wait T° increase.... then XTU keep the value as a maximum. Then start your WC pump, wait for low T° and run benchmark... So this value is bu**sh**, don't look at it ;)

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

Well done to everyone who managed to do the first stage without changing the ambient temp of your chosen liquid.

 

So in all fairness. A sub ambient run is going to win a ambient stage. :)

 

Ice slush, water coolers etc are all changing the temp below ambient of what the air is around you so not really a fair playing field for those trying to do it properly.

 

Oh well always next time.

 

Thanks for the comp Gigabyte.

Wizerty
Wizerty

If you can't beat them, discredit them.... look fair enough ?

Maedhros
Maedhros

Go bench in the antartic circle, you'll have a ambient temperature bellow 50°C. Pretty close to australia, and no need to use ice or whatever, oh wait ....

Accept to be beaten in rules, more fair play will not kill someone.

Wizerty
Wizerty

Ho, and I looked other guys screenshots....with, many guys don't add screenshot, or disable monitoring... So you trust someone without screen, without monitoring, but you said someone with all infos cheat...

If he want to cheat, he better have to disable monitoring...

newlife
newlife

While you made some good points Wizerty this has just gone down a very childish path

Massman
Massman

Easy folks :-)

 

We'll go over the competition entries this week, but from the looks of it the result seems fine.

Wizerty
Wizerty
While you made some good points Wizerty this has just gone down a very childish path

You're probably right newlife ... I don't sleep enough these day, and I'm a bit irritable ;)

BUT IT'S MASSMAN FAULT :o , too much contest in summer :D

 

The fact :

Every time, "looser" said he cheat, rookie rumble, rookie rumble again, z97 giga contest..... it's boring at the end, cause we all know, when someone said something like that, in the mind of the reader it's exactly like if he had cheat... so be carefull when you send accusation.

moreover, he is french, so if you said he cheat, in reader mind, all french are cheater... trust me, it sad, but it's like that

 

Anyway, HwBot crew will take the decision so wait and see ;)

 

 

Edit :

DFORDOG : DAT CPU.... crazzzyyyy. This is a goden platinum gem+

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

Maybe a picture that wasn't zoomed right in on a water block might get rid of some of the accusations? It was the same story in the Rookie Rumbles. The same picture of the same setup for every submission. That were a million miles in front of everyone else. It's no wonder people accuse all the time.

 

I honestly hope he and others are doing it right and if they are, they should share with me hahaha.

 

Oh and thanks to you both on your very mature responses.

Coolfx
Coolfx

A picture don't say anything, I can take a pic of my aircooled rig and bench on ln².

The only way is to check temp monitoring for each submission and trust in others people, but I think it would be better for the next competition to add a temperature rule.

 

Like Maedhros said, if you live in Antarctica you can bench at minus 50 on air, still beter than a guy in Africa with iced water...

So it would be interesting to choose a minimal temp and made the monitoring mandatory to avoid any accusation.

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

Fair enough.

 

I understand where you are coming from and agree.

 

Agreed a temp rule might have to be implemented as it's to hard to just say ambient(obviously) as chilling water is now ambient. Maybe I should just go back to school I must have missed that bit. :)

Wizerty
Wizerty

"Agreed a temp rule might have to be implemented" : Higher than -271°C :), that's THE rule :)

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

hahahahaha :). Ok now to make some sort of DICE liquid cooler/Cascade machine.

hotrod717
hotrod717

Lol. I scored better with a/c cranked and higher temps(377/ 20+*1.565v), than with my ice bucket( 369/ 5*/1.495v). Sad to see dishonesty is probably going to win out. First a 378 @ 1.7+V and then a 389 @ 1.7+v. Come on lets get real for a minute. No one is completing XTU with more than 1.6v without some help.

hotrod717
hotrod717

At least it was fun and I learned a new chip and appreciation for another mobo!

t8y
t8y

nice work guys :)

 

 

and re: cooling, come on now, we all know how it **really** works around here

 

water

rc4WqDm.jpg

 

air

KVw5gv6.jpg

 

:D

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

haha t8y.

 

I found this air setup I'm going to run for future "ambient" comps. Should be all good. :)

Massman
Massman

Not sure what I find funnier:

 

- "ambient"

- the hard liquor

- the ancient hardware

 

Too much funny in that picture

JunkDogg
JunkDogg

I seen the picture on some forum and couldn't resist.

 

It's a 486 I'm pretty sure 33Mhz running at 273Mhz or something like that.

 

Hard liquor goes hand in hand with overclocking doesn't it.

newlife
newlife

Not just any hard liquor but vodka and gin by the looks of it, which when kept in the freezer removes the need for ice

stubass
stubass

On FB it says 48hrs to the end of the superPI stage.. I was under the impression that each stage finishes on Sunday 11.59 GMT time... so which is it?

Massman
Massman

September 14th midnight GMT/UTC (8AM 29/07 GMT+8) is correct.

 

Facebook is wrong.

Dinos22
Dinos22

haha everyone using my inventive cooling method for evil damn it

newlife
newlife

What temp are the Samsung's because I've never any Samsung ICs run 2800 c8

Dinos22
Dinos22

This kit didn't mind up to -50C but was happy at -40C

Dinos22
Dinos22

Lots of good Pi runs, nice to see some subzero RAM benching there as well

Vivi
Vivi

HYK0 samsung seems to be fine at -40, my HCH9 was fine at -5 lol. my HCK0 was happy at -10 only

 

newlife
newlife
HYK0 samsung seems to be fine at -40, my HCH9 was fine at -5 lol. my HCK0 was happy at -10 only

 

That's interesting as I didn't think HYK0 could go that low as I thought it was the same as the other two

zeropluszero
zeropluszero

any particular way to tell which variety of samsung I have without taking the sinks off?

Im not adverse to taking them off, I just dont want to bother if i dont have to.

I'm running older 2600c10 trident x, 1500 serial.

TaPaKaH
TaPaKaH

xxxx1xxxxxxxxx in SN usually means 1333C9 JEDEC rated ICs, which on Samsung D-rev is HCH9.

newlife
newlife
any particular way to tell which variety of samsung I have without taking the sinks off?

Im not adverse to taking them off, I just dont want to bother if i dont have to.

I'm running older 2600c10 trident x, 1500 serial.

 

Didn't you already know what IC you have since aren't 1500 HCH9 and 2500 HYK0

zeropluszero
zeropluszero
Didn't you already know what IC you have since aren't 1500 HCH9 and 2500 HYK0

 

I didnt but I do now.

Dinos22
Dinos22
HYK0 samsung seems to be fine at -40, my HCH9 was fine at -5 lol. my HCK0 was happy at -10 only

 

i have some corsair Samsings and they seem to like around -20 to -25

 

these gskills are happy with more

 

perhaps different ICs

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DFORDOG #1
TeamChina
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