ObscureParadox@3XS sagt:

10 years ago –

Getting gold globals without even OC'ing

Nice one!

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

I could overclock if I used a different board

GENiEBEN sagt:

10 years ago –

Wrong screenshot / matched to wrong cpu ?

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

Depends. HWBot doesn't have a system that takes properly care of CPU subs with different # of cores. I can't select one 8 core chip and a 12 core chip, so posting my scores in this category to get my well earned ( ) points is the easiest fix. Also, as my rig is always slower than these servers, they don't lose any HW points here I think.

There are s few similar SR2 subs in the 1x 8870 rankings, using one quad and one hexa, so this issue is well known already. Maybe time for a fix?

lLLUMINATI sagt:

10 years ago –

im confuse for your screen i dont now what are you doing

lLLUMINATI sagt:

10 years ago –

insert again sir if you can

lLLUMINATI sagt:

10 years ago –

why your PC MARK very worst and bad score

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

PCMark removed, as it wasn't suppsoed to be there.

Score is bad because I used a 1st gen 30gb SSD, and the CPU speed is very low.

GENiEBEN sagt:

10 years ago –

Think you missed the point here Knut, SS shows AMD Opteron while the score is in the Xeon 8870 category....

Mr.Scott sagt:

10 years ago –

Think you missed the point here Knut, SS shows AMD Opteron while the score is in the Xeon 8870 category....

Just make a new category for it and call it ES.

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

Think you missed the point here Knut, SS shows AMD Opteron while the score is in the Xeon 8870 category....

http://hwbot.org/submission/2323466_dhenzjhen_wprime___32m_xeon_e7_2860_2sec_562ms

and

http://hwbot.org/submission/2271587_stevero_wprime___32m_xeon_e7_2860_2sec_624ms

This was an issue a year ago, and was mentioned here:

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=43606

...and also here:

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?p=170425&highlight=e5620#post170425

There's no indication that this practise is not OK. I do have some possible solutions in my head, but for now this is "legit enough" (I could move my scores to e7 2870 instead, if that helps).

Mr.Scott sagt:

10 years ago –

http://hwbot.org/submission/2323466_dhenzjhen_wprime___32m_xeon_e7_2860_2sec_562ms

 

and

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/2271587_stevero_wprime___32m_xeon_e7_2860_2sec_624ms

 

This was an issue a year ago, and was mentioned here:

 

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=43606

 

...and also here:

 

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?p=170425&highlight=e5620#post170425

 

There's no indication that this practise is not OK. I do have some possible solutions in my head, but for now this is "legit enough" (I could move my scores to e7 2870 instead, if that helps).

OPTERON IS NOT INTEL

This should not be hard for you to understand.

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

OPTERON IS NOT INTEL

This should not be hard for you to understand.

Click the links I provided... look at the screenshots... closely. Don't tell me that e5620 + x56XX = e7 2870 either. Too hard to understand, perhaps?

Antinomy sagt:

10 years ago –

I think there should be an update to the rules regulating such a case. For GPUs the was a rule that "lower GPU+higher GPU = dual higher GPU". Meaning 4850+4870 = dual 4870. So that it does allow to get some points with two cards without making flaws in the system.

Maybe we should make "global points only" submissions so you can manually set the core count for mixed submissions but not give any hardware points for them.

Mehdi_FXX sagt:

10 years ago –

seems some sockets are in a mistake...any way Nice Score & point

Mehdi_FXX sagt:

10 years ago –

@ Mr.Scott: yeap even MB is AMD, he can Edit CPU name but this edit don`t change his Global score

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

I think there should be an update to the rules regulating such a case. For GPUs the was a rule that "lower GPU+higher GPU = dual higher GPU". Meaning 4850+4870 = dual 4870. So that it does allow to get some points with two cards without making flaws in the system.

 

Maybe we should make "global points only" submissions so you can manually set the core count for mixed submissions but not give any hardware points for them.

The GPU case is a bit different. I benched an Opteron 6128 together with a 6132. Those scores will be posted as 2x Opteron 6132, due to the rule you refer to. However, say you bench a 4870 and a 4870x2, then the current way to deal with it is to use the 3x 4870 ranking, as it's matches the correct # of GPUs. It's pretty much the same thing I'm doing here, except I don't have a fitting category to put them in.

I've posted a few suggestions in a classifieds thread... let's see if there will be a quick fix then.

riska sagt:

10 years ago –

knopflerbruce the screenshoot you have uploaded is done with 2 Amd opteron cpus and you say that this is an intel cpu you can only make the 10core thing you are rambling about with 2 intel cpus 4core and 6core not with 2 amd cpus..

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 years ago –

I wouldn't be surprised if I can, by using 4 and 6 core C32 Opterons

Nonetheless, brand is irrelevant. My scores are not in the right category, but it's not worse than posting 1366 Xeons in a 2011 category either. They're also misplaced, an apparently acceptable solution to a weird issue - as shown in links posted in an older post.

I won't respond to questions regarding the category of the scores. The logic and precedence has been explained already.

Antinomy sagt:

10 years ago –

A "mixed CPU configuration" checkbox on the submit page a manual selection of core count giving only global, and no h/w points should be a nice solution.

Mr.Scott sagt:

10 years ago –

 

Nonetheless, brand is irrelevant. My scores are not in the right category, but it's not worse than posting 1366 Xeons in a 2011 category either. They're also misplaced, an apparently acceptable solution to a weird issue - as shown in links posted in an older post.

 

I won't respond to questions regarding the category of the scores. The logic and precedence has been explained already.

LOL. That's the most ridiculous logic I've ever heard.

Hey, think anyone will mind if I use an Ivy and submit in the FX categories? Same logic applies.

MrPaco sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

A "mixed CPU configuration" checkbox on the submit page a manual selection of core count

This ^^^

With the ability to input multiple cpu models in a given submission.

ie: one X5687 (four cores) and one E5645 (six cores)

But the issue would still be; Under what cpu category would it ranked?

The x5687 or the e5645?

Can always create some sort of new category based on the cpu combinations used; "MIXED CPU".

So when looking up the cpu x5687 as you normally would in the drop down menu it will also show "&" e5645.

example:

Xeon X5680

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5606

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5607

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5620

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5630

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5640

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5645

Xeon X5680 & Xeon E5649

Xeon X5687

etc...etc...

Combinations will be added to list as members make the various mixed cpu submissions.

Just an idea that may spark another idea/solution from someone else since the ability to use mixed cpus exists but are being submitted under confusing/conflicting circumstances. No fault of the submitter/member, just no place to put them n rank them appropriately n correctly.

Yamunsa sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

With the ability to input multiple cpu models in a given submission.

ie: one X5687 (four cores) and one E5645 (six cores)

 

But the issue would still be; Under what cpu category would it ranked?

The x5687 or the e5645?

+1 for mixed option. can't imagine it would be an issue to add a drop down if the initial cpu chosen is enterprise level.

as to subbing catagory i understand that currently the larger of the 2 cpus used in a sub would need to be the lead unit. with a mixed cpu option i imagine it would make no difference unless the participant is chasing HW points or cups... saying that mixed subs could just catch globals and there would be no issues.

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

I'd say the one with the most computing power should be the "leading" chip. I guess it's not possible to mix entirely different chips, so an easy way to figure that out would be # of threads * frequency for all chips, and choose the one that gets the higher "performance number"

Yamunsa sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

I guess it's not possible to mix entirely different chips

not entirely true. i have been experimenting with some success using interlago mixed with abu dhabi and can confirm they can work together however cpuz doesn't like it, TPC doesn't like it and occasionally supermicro doesn't like it lol.

Antinomy sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

Thank you guys. I suggest mixed categories should receive only global/WR points. Otherwise it will give too much possibilities to cut the corners. In fact, using mixed configs to submit in non-standard global categories is already cutting the corners but a rather legal one.

Mr. Paco, I assume you to be the first who runs a system with 8 different CPUs?

MrPaco sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

Mr. Paco, I assume you to be the first who runs a system with 8 different CPUs?

Only if knopflerbruce dosnt do it first or any of the other multi-socket benchers

:nana:

That would make for one helluva run LOL....

knopflerbruce sagt:

10 year and 11 months ago –

Well, if I cared, I could buy some chips and do a 4+8+12+16 core Interlagos or Abu Dhabi setup 40 cores