Coolice Shares Comprehensive ROG Maximus VIII OC Guide: 27 Pages on Skylake Z170 DRAM, CPU, LN2 Overclocking (and more)

Sharing is caring. In a thread over at our dedicated Skylake Z170 subforum, Coolice from ROG has shared everything you need to get going with the Maximus VIII motherboard series. That includes not only overclocking software like ROG Connect Plus, Turbo V, and MemTweakIT, but also handy tools to install XP from a USB drive and the AHCI XP driver. The thread also includes a link to an overclocking guide dedicated to the Maximus VIII series.

The OC guide is very comprehensive and includes topics on BCLK, DRAM, Core/cache frequency, and LN2 overclocking. It also helps you understand the functionality of the USB ports near the PS2 connector, how to install Windows XP from a USB driver, how to get XTU working in Windows 7. Here are some pointers:

  • - For BCLK overclocking: focus on the PLL Termination Voltage (or the linked CPU standby Voltage) and PLL Bandwidth. Level 6 PLL Bandwidth combined with 1.45V PLL Termination should give you decent margins. 350 MHz BCLK should be pretty easy on air cooling.

  • - For DRAM overclocking, the most important rails are VCCIO and VCCSA. Setting both to 1.12V should be sufficient for DDR4-3500. Also note that the tRCD is tied to tRP and must be in sync, hence why there's only one option to control them. The highest available DRAM Ratio is DDR4-4133.

  • - For LN2 overclocking: the CPU core and cache now use the same voltage rail, so you cannot configure it independently. To max out the CPU, you will need between 1.7V and 1.83V. Lower the BCLK frequency as low as possible to reduce the jitter on the PLL. Most importantly, replace the TIM between the IHS and CPU die. Some CPUs may have PCIe cold bug at around -150°C, so use the PCH PCIe slots for testing.

For more details, check out the OC Guide posted by Coolice in his dedicated Maximus VIII forum thread HERE. There are a lot more tricks and tips in the full version of the guide that will definitely help you push your system further! In case the OC Guide source goes down, here's a mirrored version in the HWBOT cloud.


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Malaysia coolice says:

[SIZE="5"]OC Guide[/SIZE]

OC guide


[SIZE="5"]BIOS[/SIZE]

It is a MUST to update via USB BIOS flashback
* Can be updated via EZFlash

Maximus VIII Gene



0004
0004 08/26
0014 *
0015 *
0018 *

Maximus VIII Hero



0024
0031
0039 *
0040 *
0014 *
0018 *

Maximus VIII Extreme



0005
0007 *
0015 *
0018 *

Maximus VIII Impact



0001 *
0019 *

Maximus VIII Formula

0014 *
0018 *

Maximus VIII Hero Alpha

0015 *
0018 *

Maximus VIII Ranger

0014 *
0018 *


[SIZE="5"]Software tool section[/SIZE]

TurboV Core

ROG Connect Plus

MemTweakIt

MEI

Chipset Driver

USB3.x Driver

Tools and files for W7/XP USB installation

AHCI driver for XP

Firmware for OC Panel 1 on Z170

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Thanks TL

Australia zeropluszero says:

Unable to download? Mirror?

Belgium Massman says:

"This page cannot be used now. The files downloaded from this page is over the limit. Please try again after 15 hours."

Sweden elmor says:

Links should work better now :) These bioses are "one to rule them all", meaning they will work with all OS including XP.

Austria basco says:

thanks coolice

Netherlands Oldscarface says:

That is good to hear Elmor! And thanks Coolice

Germany der8auer says:

Great work guys!

Belgium Massman says:

I think we should call us very lucky that there are guides like this. Everything we need to know, shared and at our disposal pretty much at the time of launch.

Malaysia coolice says:

updated first post - correcting port for USB BIOS flashback on M8G

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

Thx for sharing :)

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Is the scaling so wierd on these CPUs, my 6600K can do CB R15 5500 at 1.525Vcore, full pot, but can't make 5.6 at 1.7... Had similar issues with the 6700K...

Netherlands rsnubje says:

Maybe you're hitting positive temps :P Delid that bunny :)

Belgium leeghoofd says:

been there done that, gained 18°C, on load on air

Germany minicoopers says:

Thanks for sharing :)

India Toolius says:

Thank you for sharing guys !! this is invaluable :D

websmile says:

Excellent guide especially on win7 and xp, I was able to install and use both OS on M8H, without the guide I would have failed extremely hard :D

Romania Alex@ro says:

Gene prooves good on running 4x4 tight 3466C12 AFR however 3600c12 is a problem of cpu imc as i needed 1.37V VCCIO to gain stability :D Need to find a better imc for sure,keep trying to improve effciency.


South Africa Vivi says:

[MENTION=16588]Leeghoofd[/MENTION]

Leeghoofd said: Is the scaling so wierd on these CPUs, my 6600K can do CB R15 5500 at 1.525Vcore, full pot, but can't make 5.6 at 1.7... Had similar issues with the 6700K...


you need to tinker some voltages to lift the wall. I had similar issue on most of my cpus, 5.9 cinebench 1.65v wall, then once you find the volt that needs increasing it went to 6.3 cinebench 6.5 pifast

websmile says:

Time for a first facit on the HeroVIII I tested, other than on Z87 when I was disappointed I am happy with the board, solid performance and cpu-clocks, good mem oc, only thing I miss is dual BIOS, but I think this is made up by USB-flashback, and decent pricing. A few results:


Mems are 3200c16 retails, full slot worked as well as shown, solid, in better hands with better sticks it might fly a lot higher :D

United States sabishiihito says:

I grabbed a Hero Saturday and the thing has been a pain, lots of code 41 and 55 with various BIOS versions even on XMP settings. Slots A2 and B2 seem to be the culprits, which kills any 4 DIMM clocking (which was what I got it for in the first place vs the Asrock Formula).

websmile says:

Might be a bad sample, compability, IMC or mems, such things can happen. Reminds me of my two z97 Asrock OPCF who weren´t able to clock PSC even at 2600C8 with Haswell 4x70k cpus, sometimes you run out of luck, sorry you couldn´t enjoy the board :(
4k c16 on 3200C16 ripjawV, only mems I have, this sample was provided by ebay and sponsored by my wallet :D - it is nearly impossible to get higher binned Samsungs in germany at all, and I don´t see reason to buy abroad

Finland Luumi says:

http://i.imgur.com/uqY5vho.jpg Any help?

Sweden elmor says:

Luumi said: http://i.imgur.com/uqY5vho.jpg

Any help?


Make sure the drive you want to install to is plugged as well (check boot menu or bios). Next step would be to verify that the XP.iso is in the root folder of your drive.

Finland Luumi says:

Well I tried that probably 15 times. I got enough of that error as I basically tried everything, different isos, different bootloaders so i just burned the iso to disc and installed that way.

Sweden elmor says:

Luumi said: Well I tried that probably 15 times. I got enough of that error as I basically tried everything, different isos, different bootloaders so i just burned the iso to disc and installed that way.


A few people seem to get this issue, which board are you on? As it says it's not finding the ISO for some reason. Could be something with the USB drive, which file system is it formatted with?

Finland Luumi says:

FAT32 and this time asrock z170 board but it should work on that one aswell?

Sweden elmor says:

Can you try formatted as NTFS? Yes should work on other brands as well.

South Africa Vivi says:

elmor said: Can you try formatted as NTFS? Yes should work on other brands as well.


i tried ntfs and i did not get that error so maybe it is FAT32 related

South Africa Vivi says:

huge thanks for this guide tl and elmor.

xp installation went easy.

it does not work on MSI though, after installing fira and x99-skylake ahci, it gets 0000xA05 bluescreen something about "ACPI" stuff

G

Romania Alex@ro says:

ACPI support for Xp not implemented,bios needs to be fixed...

South Africa Vivi says:

Alex@ro said: ACPI support for Xp not implemented,bios needs to be fixed...


yesss thats the error, even after doing the multiprocessor thing still no worky

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Vivi said: yesss thats the error, even after doing the multiprocessor thing still no worky


Should work Vivi, but no HT with MSI. ASUS and ASrock have the edge there

United States TheGoat Eater says:

Vivi said: huge thanks for this guide tl and elmor.

xp installation went easy.

it does not work on MSI though, after installing fira and x99-skylake ahci, it gets 0000xA05 bluescreen something about "ACPI" stuff

G


Yes thanks for the installation guide - unfortunately I am getting the ACPI BSOD on this board with my install

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Are you on an XP compatible Bios Ryan ?

United States TheGoat Eater says:

oops - I think I accidentally used the one the rep sent (ugh), I think I confused them since they were in the same folder on my computer, will try again

United States Strong Island says:

TheGoat Eater said: Yes thanks for the installation guide - unfortunately I am getting the ACPI BSOD on this board with my install



You have to slipstream the xp ahci driver in OP into your install. The most recent m8e bios in OP works with xp fine. I'm using 0007

United States TheGoat Eater says:

Yep, I was apparently too tired to realize that I selected the wrong Bios when I had both in the same file (facepalm)

United States sabishiihito says:

Playing with some interesting low cost RAM.

France mcnico63 says:

Outch 1.93v !!

websmile says:

Try XP, you will get good time with waza with full slots, much faster than 2x4gb

United States sabishiihito says:

websmile said: Try XP, you will get good time with waza with full slots, much faster than 2x4gb



I got the same time as you (6min 40sec) on XP with 4x4GB 1800C11, though my tRCD/tRP was 18 and not 17 as you have here.

United States Strong Island says:

hey guys does anyone know what the xtu setting 1 thru 9 does in the bios for m8e.

Italy Andrix85 says:

Hi boys,
i have many issues during XP installation on my M8H.
I check the guide but this is the error. Why ?

says:

Andreat85 said: Hi boys,
i have many issues during XP installation on my M8H.
I check the guide but this is the error. Why ?


install xp using http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/YUMI/YUMI-2.0.1.9.exe , when the install finish, replace firadisk.img file inside YOURUSBLETTER:\multiboot\ISOS with this https://dl.dropbox.com/s/dybcgui8mu63ld6/firadi32.img for 32bit, or this https://dl.dropbox.com/s/t156kygf0yl3pcd/firadi64.img for 64bit.

Remember to rename these files in firadisk.img when you put one of them on your usb!

Start the install from usb......choose step 1 in yumi......press f6 during first bootup of xp installer and charge firadisk driver and skylake driver....

next bootup again from usb and choose option 2.....continue install, done!

Sweden elmor says:

Andreat85 said: Hi boys,
i have many issues during XP installation on my M8H.
I check the guide but this is the error. Why ?


Did you format as NTFS or FAT32? Either way try the other file system. Also try with a different flash drive.

says:

The problem was the name of file, he wrote xp64.iso.iso instead xp64.iso Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

Italy Andrix85 says:

Yes Elmor...I solve the problem...;) Only USB dont' work in XP per FLASH HDD...Any solve ?

websmile says:

[MENTION=19076]Andreat85[/MENTION] No USB3 drivers for XP, buy a pci or pci-e usb 2.0 controller and use it with XP, this should work :)
Hero is still doing good for me, no weakness. 4x4GB above 3800Mhz easy, time is slow, but reason for this is bad XP (no ram-disk, was already 0,8-1,2s slower than perica_baris bench os at 1150 and 1155 depending on freq) and slow bencher ^^


P.S. Funny, these are last mems I have atm xd

says:

Search xp performance edition 2009, and if u need an how to install ramdisk, search on klanoc forum.....there are alot of tweaks and how to install corrextly eram(last pages) .... My os is very slim(120mb) but i tryed performance edition 2009 and is quite good......again follow klanoc forum;) Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

websmile says:

This OS does not support ram disk size above 124mb when I install, very funny :D - thanks for headsup on the performace edition, might give it a try, I think I started form wrong direction when I made transition to 1151, should have started with full xp and then strip one by one instead of using old built.

says:

Too lite...http://www.hwlegend.com/bbforum/viewtopic.php?f=219&t=7907&sid=a05625555507f1aca49ffd3dda3420bc Follow this guide(mine) and keep the floppy support too(u can remove oobe) Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

France mcnico63 says:

Nice ;) But download Tools not work.

United States GtiJason says:

mcnico63 said: Nice ;)

But download Tools not work.


I read it all , very nice. When I got to end download link not working. Not too sure what I would need anyways, unless eram stuff?

says:

Ehwhhe i removed my tools...maybe u need only wahaha(johnlam app) and eram driver cpl.... Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

France mcnico63 says:

Yop, Just eram driver cpl please.

France mcnico63 says:

Thank I thought that of Barbonenet was different.

United States rtsurfer says:

[strike][MENTION=2346]coolice[/MENTION] Small request, when you guys eventually update the BIOSes for non-K CPU BCLK unlocking, it would be nice if we can have more DRAM voltage than 2.00V. ;)

I have only checked the Impact though, dunno about other boards.[/strike]

Romania Alex@ro says:

Enable ln2 mode for up to 2.135v.... Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

Canada Johan45 says:

Hoping for a bit of insight. I've tried many times now and when it's trying to copy the drivers I selected to insert from USB I keep getting an error saying it can not copy them. Any ideas?

websmile says:

Possible reasons for a fail can be floppy support missing on your XP Iso, corrupted files, wrong files (64 instead of 32bit for example when you try to work with 32bit xp)and iirc I had this one or two times when I selected usb uefi as first boot and not usb stick "normal". Very hard to judge for me from distance, if you have correct working files and install named XP.iso it is all I can think of at the moment

P.S. please also check your BIOS version if it is XP capable

Canada Johan45 says:

Thanks Websmile, Correct files and BIOS AFIK came from massmans list for the Hero. Have tried different USB slots and booted in normal. Scratching my head right now. I'm going to put a different image on the USB and give it another go.


EDIT: Must have been a bad image? It's working now thanks

Malaysia coolice says:

added XP BIOS for non-k OC

Hungary Achill3uS says:

thanks TL been waiting for this one :)

Australia KaRtA says:

Hey TL, does the firmware on the first page for the OC Panel work on the OC Panel 1? Want to flash it, don't want to brick it.

United States Strong Island says:

KaRtA said: Hey TL, does the firmware on the first page for the OC Panel work on the OC Panel 1? Want to flash it, don't want to brick it.



I have been using mine without even flashing, of course some options I don't use and cache ratio isn't there but everything else works fine, but I think they did add firmware on first page for oc panel 1

United States Gunslinger says:

Strong Island said: I have been using mine without even flashing, of course some options I don't use and cache ratio isn't there but everything else works fine, but I think they did add firmware on first page for oc panel 1
I bricked 2 of them trying to update, finally just gave up and stuck with the original RVE FW

Australia KaRtA says:

Strong Island said: I have been using mine without even flashing, of course some options I don't use and cache ratio isn't there but everything else works fine, but I think they did add firmware on first page for oc panel 1


I have done the same, can pause and slow mode fine. Nothing else of course. When it's plugged in though, appear TurboV doesn't work, but I might not have Connect installed.

I don't want to brick it like Gunslinger. Been with me from RIVBE to Z97. Want to have it a bit longer....lol

United States Strong Island says:

KaRtA said: I have done the same, can pause and slow mode fine. Nothing else of course. When it's plugged in though, appear TurboV doesn't work, but I might not have Connect installed.

I don't want to brick it like Gunslinger. Been with me from RIVBE to Z97. Want to have it a bit longer....lol



Actually for me a lot of things have worked. So far I have tried bclk, cpu ratio and cpu vcore, and the slow mode and retry all works plus the start button. I haven't tried anything else so I can't confirm, I think it had rve firmware on it

also yes my turbov works at same time.

The only reason I even tried is because the one that came with my m8e was working funny at first but for some reason seems to work fine now, so I used my old one for awhile

United States coolhandluke41 says:

I have bricked my first OC panel and order another ,you need to update the firmware via previous gen. platform wish someone can post all the procedures/apps here the biggest problem is luck of OC panel 2,there should be an option to buy OC Panel with all ROG boards ,come on guys !

EDit; or at list make them available

Australia KaRtA says:

So flashing from a Z170 board is a no go, you need a Z97 handy.....hmmmm

Malaysia coolice says:

Gunslinger said: I bricked 2 of them trying to update, finally just gave up and stuck with the original RVE FW


coolhand411 said: I have bricked my first OC panel and order another ,you need to update the firmware via previous gen. platform wish someone can post all the procedures/apps here the biggest problem is luck of OC panel 2,there should be an option to buy OC Panel with all ROG boards ,come on guys !

EDit; or at list make them available


May i know both of your ROG OC Panel Firmware Tool version and OS?

Malaysia coolice says:

added new BIOS for Extreme, Formula and Hero, the rest on its way Improves DRAM OC (includes AFR and B-die presets) Added Execute Disable Bit Option Support both normal K OC and non-K OC (above 103)

United States rtsurfer says:

Do Impact first. Plz.. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

United States coolhandluke41 says:

coolice said: May i know both of your ROG OC Panel Firmware Tool version and OS?


OC panel comes from Maximus VI package (that's all I know)

and here are the files I have prepared/64bit


Switzerland splmann says:

please Impact !



coolice said: added new BIOS for Extreme, Formula and Hero, the rest on its way

Improves DRAM OC (includes AFR and B-die presets)
Added Execute Disable Bit Option
Support both normal K OC and non-K OC (above 103)

United States Gunslinger says:

coolice said: May i know both of your ROG OC Panel Firmware Tool version and OS?
FW tool I used was on the disk for RIVE or RIVBE, it was the only one I could find. :D OS was Win7 I believe.

says:

coolice said: Added Execute Disable Bit Option
Ahahah ;) it's better late than never :) Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

Malaysia coolice says:

rtsurfer said: Do Impact first. Plz..

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk


splmann said: please Impact !


the puzzle are now completed :)

France Radi says:

the bios for m8e is not availlable . or the link is corrupted

United States coolhandluke41 says:

Gene B-die bioses please (first Skylake mobo and no love ? )

United States rtsurfer says:

coolhand411 said: Gene B-die bioses please (first Skylake mobo and no love ? )
0015 is it man. That's the new one.

Malaysia coolice says:

Radi said: the bios for m8e is not availlable . or the link is corrupted


uploaded 0015 for minor bug fixed on 0014

France loul says:

hello :)

the new bios 0015 for mviiig works correctly with a non k cpu's and xp ??

thanks ;)

Sweden elmor says:

loul said: hello :)

the new bios 0015 for mviiig works correctly with a non k cpu's and xp ??

thanks ;)


Yes it has all.

France loul says:

thanks elmor ;)


I had problems with my ghost (work perfectly with a i7 cpu bios 0004) and non k cpu , no possible to have a mouse drive :/

i try now with a next bios :)

Germany aerotracks says:

I finally got myself a 2 DIMMer, what can I say, amazing little board :)

Some first checks with B-Die / 4500MHz, looks promising



Update with some i3 fun; cut max mem no need :p

Hungary Achill3uS says:

just a note if it does happen with smone else as well we might watch out... i was upgrading M8Gene from bios 0004 08/26 to 0015 with 6700k in mobo, and after flash completed mobo never posted up, just showing 00 postcode. did try usb bios flasback (completed) but nothing helps still 00. cpu is OK in other mobo btw. just board seems to be in coma.

says:

If u resolve let me know, mine dead like this aswell Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

United States Gunslinger says:

I've got the same issue with bios #2 on my OCF, bios #1 is working fine though.

United States rtsurfer says:

Achill3uS said: just a note if it does happen with smone else as well we might watch out... i was upgrading M8Gene from bios 0004 08/26 to 0015 with 6700k in mobo, and after flash completed mobo never posted up, just showing 00 postcode. did try usb bios flasback (completed) but nothing helps still 00. cpu is OK in other mobo btw. just board seems to be in coma.
Try flashing the other 0004 BIOS. When I used to own a Gene, I had the same thing happen. I believe the 8/26 BIOS is corrupt. Not exactly sure how I fixed it though. Its been 3+ months. [emoji29] If nothing else works, Asus RMA will obviously fix it for you.

Hungary Achill3uS says:

thanks for the replys guys, actually none of the bioses solved it, but got some help from elmor, will see. cheers

websmile says:

Learning something about B-die, better cpu would have been helpful, IMC is a mess at 3866 and above


Those rtls give me headaches, hard to control these for random i3 it seems



Both kits are already shipped to new owners, I hope they will do good there :)

United States coolhandluke41 says:

I had similar problem as Achill3uS on a Impact "00" but was able to recover somehow with single module near 24pin (don't know if this makes the difference but it's worth a shot ) and Flashback,after that I was able to flash back and forth between 014 and 002 (same build)

Romania Alex@ro says:

Tried the B-die on Maximus VIII Extreme : 2 modules DDR4-3900 12-12-12-1T! with proper 50-51 RTL : [IMG]https://abload.de/img/snaphsot0007burm6.png[/IMG] 4 module DDR4-3733 12-12-12-1T! ,3866 booted a few times but no stability with 1T yet,need to retest on single stage. [IMG]https://abload.de/img/snaphsot00067hpil.png[/IMG] The gold rule is to trust the retry button and lock RTL manually as soon as proper training occurs.

Argentina nacho_arroyo says:

Great job Alex!

Sweden Rauf says:

Did you try newer bios?

Germany mahaudi says:

Anybody have Samsung B @ 2000 Mhz on a Extreme ? Can drive 1933 Mhz 12-12-12-28 1T ....but no boot @ 2000 Mhz.....can do what I want

Romania Alex@ro says:

Try 2t,otherwise get an impact.... Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

France Radi says:

hi

i have an issue with 07 and 015 bios . all my old ati card doesn't display, the system boot without problems . i have test with 3850 4870x2 ans 2900xt . i don't have more recent ati card . have you got the issue ?

Sweden Rauf says:

I also had issues trying to boot with 4870X2 and GTX 295 on the M8 Extreme. Managed to boot once with 4870X2, but most of the time it would stop at A3 or A0. This was with bios 0014.

United States Strong Island says:

I'm sorry if this is a really dumb question but is it possible to create a bios to allow for a little more bclk for the locked i3's on the asus boards. I'm sure it obviously wouldn't be a priority but a beta bios to compete a little more in xtu would be awesome.

United States rtsurfer says:

Strong Island said: I'm sorry if this is a really dumb question but is it possible to create a bios to allow for a little more bclk for the locked i3's on the asus boards. I'm sure it obviously wouldn't be a priority but a beta bios to compete a little more in xtu would be awesome.
+1000 Plz guys, we need that extra 0.2 BCLK. [emoji24]

Canada marc0053 says:

rtsurfer said: +1000

Plz guys, we need that extra 0.2 BCLK. [emoji24]


I support this request as well :D

Italy RULE says:

+1

FlanK3r says:

I have at M8E issue with higher dividier than 3600 MHz. 3600 MHz I can run with 12-17-17-28-1T, but If I tried 3733 or 3866 MHz and timings 14-19-19-30-2T or 15-20-20 no post, the best what I got was reboot cycle/loops :-( The IO 1.17V, SA 1.2V, DRAM 1.7V (I tried 1.75V to 1.95V also and it not helped)

Romania Alex@ro says:

Hey Flanker,i wrote about this here:

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=148427

Basically you need to set TRDWR_sg TRDWR_dg and TRDWR_dr + TRDWR_dd same as cas .

In your case i would try 12-19-19 1.8V and set these TRDWR_sg TRDWR_dg and TRDWR_dr + TRDWR_dd to 12 manually. Also leave IO and SA auto

FlanK3r says:

thank you Alex, tomorow Il test your settings. Hope it will be working. Today Im tired from half day of BIOS settings and isue codes before post :) PS:but 3600 MHz worked very well in timings :)

United States Gunslinger says:

How about some nice, high and tight dual sided B-Die memory presets? Pretty please with sugar on top!

FlanK3r says:

will be worked at single sided also ,-)? These are TridentZ 2x 4GB 3600MHz SN1546A5004259115

websmile says:

Yes, this is an old issue that was first discovered at D-die, it also solves some problems at E-die (your mems) and I think also on new B

FlanK3r says:

OK, with new BIOS I get up to 3866 MHz. But 4000 MHz not...I tried for 4 GHz also the Samsung B-die profile and nothing changed (code 41 and cycling of reboots).

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Rauf said: I also had issues trying to boot with 4870X2 and GTX 295 on the M8 Extreme.


Try Gen 1, this allowed me to boot the GTX 295

Sweden Rauf says:

Leeghoofd said: Try Gen 1, this allowed me to boot the GTX 295

Can't access bios even. But will try more later, probably much later...

Belgium leeghoofd says:

just use another card to set it up :)

Germany aerotracks says:

My 3870X2 is working fine on Impact, but tons of issues on Z77, whyever that is. These old dual cards are strange things.

Italy natalu88 says:

hello everybody, just joined the forum, some very nice stuffs here) can someone please explain me what about the bios posted on the first page are? are them different than the official bios from asus in what?

Poland phobosq says:

I think I fried my Impact, after last LN2 session it doesn't want to OC anymore - if I change settings from CMOS default eventually I get 41 code which afterwards is followed by 00 code with fans at 100%, after clear CMOS it boots (on stock ofc). Also the settings (multi, BCLK, voltages) I input in BIOS are not applied - everything runs on auto.
[MENTION=6723]websmile[/MENTION] gave me an idea that maybe MEI could be the issue here, and it might be back to normal if I could recover it. But no idea how to do it.
I already tried flashing BIOSes 0205, 1302, 0002, 0014 - without success (with EZFlash or using USB Flashback). Rest of components - CPU, RAM, GPU - are OK, tested and working in GB Z170x SOCF. I also cleaned the CPU socket, checked that pins are OK, and checked RAM slots.

Canada slyisdaman says:

Hey there,

I have been looking at this topic and flipping pages and I am unable to install the USB and Chipset drivers that are available on the first page. I have found the procedure how to install the Asmedia USB on this forum on another topic but it doesn't work for me.

Is the chipset zip file for XP?

I have the Asus Z170-P Mainboard Bios V5.02

I see that there is a bios 404 available should I downgrade? what would that gain from it?

websmile says:

No chipset drivers needed, but you can use old ones iirc for other platforms (donßt nail me on this, I used xp without drivers or MEI), on USB you can only try barbonet´s method or a discrete USB 2.0 card

Germany mahaudi says:

Is there already a newer BIOS than the 0015 @ Extreme ?

For better Samsung B support

United Kingdom nickolp1974 says:

The xp ready bios, specifically for the gene, do they add IDE option?

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

Any idea how to install 7 x64 on M8G with i3 6100? I use BIOS 0015. I follow AHCI & USB 3 Slipstream to 7 but my Keyboard & Mouse can't move at all. Even if i use PS2 Keyboard. Any help would be appreciated :)

United Kingdom nickolp1974 says:

In bios, advanced/USB and enable the options in there

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

nickolp1974 said: In bios, advanced/USB and enable the options in there


I tried this, the result same, even PS2 Keyboard can't move. So maybe my OS Installer is weird. Now i try to install to older PC and move it to skylake and it worked. Thanks for the info BTW :)

Sweden elmor says:

mahaudi said: Is there already a newer BIOS than the 0015 @ Extreme ?

For better Samsung B support


Latest BIOS is in this thread. Is there a problem now?

nickolp1974 said: The xp ready bios, specifically for the gene, do they add IDE option?


Sorry only AHCI.

speed.fastest said: I tried this, the result same, even PS2 Keyboard can't move. So maybe my OS Installer is weird. Now i try to install to older PC and move it to skylake and it worked. Thanks for the info BTW :)


If this happens to anyone else, try to turn of the PSU and wait for standby power to clear. Then power up and see if it works.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

Well, i try to turn off the PSU and wait for standby power and cleared. Then power up again still same. Maybe my installer is not clean.

websmile says:

Have you tried to downgrade the BIOS? Lately I had feedback that on some new unlock BIOS xp64 was no go for install, maybe it is te same for win7x64, we know that these are not officially supported. OS worked when installed already, the installation of the os itself failed

Romania Alex@ro says:

I would recommend installing windows on stock error free settings.I tried installing a new win7 x64 few days ago on overclocked settings,not much but still instability was set i guess,and i always received 7F at win7 startup and one time i got into win but stuck like you said.I reinstalled windows again (from DVD so no problems with USB) on stock settings and it worked...

Sweden Rauf says:

Newest bios work for both XP32 and -64 on Impact and Extreme. Just make sure you follow the instructions in the guide, many isos you can find won't work without modifications. As for Win 7 I would say your iso is not properly configured. I sometimes loose USB-functionality on the top USB-ports on the Extreme when OC'ing on LN2, but that is not likely to happen at air cooling.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

My iso already adding driver slipstream. I don't know it worked or not, but it can boot to installation screen. And i try with DVD ROM, same result. It looks like my ISO source is not clean.

Argentina TRES2 says:

Thank you coolice for thia guide. I had a problem with my Asus M8H, i can't set the max cpu ratio with out clock down. At OS, the cpu clock down to 35mhz. C statea disable an another energy saver mode. Any idea? Thank you.

websmile says:

Are you sure speedstep is disabled and OS option are at high performance?

FlanK3r says:

u can show the BIOS settings (F12 to save the BIOS screenshot).

says:

U can press ctrl+f12 for a full saving of bios setting.....is inside oc profiles section....the last option load/save...then ctrl+f12;) Sent from my E2353 using Tapatalk

United States rtsurfer says:

2 things
[strike]
1) Is there any way to do BCLK OC from within Windows XP..? Turbo Vcore doesn't work for BCLK OC.

2) Does the IGPU not work on the OC BIOSes..? I get no display. :( [/strike]

Edit:- Actually Enabling Ln2 mode on Impact seems to disable IGP.
Anyway to remedy this...? Need it for the Gskill comp.

[MENTION=2346]coolice[/MENTION]

Sweden elmor says:

Below BIOSes have the only change that they allow for higher voltages without LN2 Mode. The reason why IGPU is disabled in LN2 Mode is because high Core PLL voltage might damage it. Specifically the HDMI output part can be affected. Use with caution.

M8E 0017
M8F 0017
M8G 0017
M8HA 0017
M8H 0017
M8I 0017

Australia KaRtA says:

elmor said: Below BIOSes have the only change that they allow for higher voltages without LN2 Mode. The reason why IGPU is disabled in LN2 Mode is because high Core PLL voltage might damage it. Specifically the HDMI output part can be affected. Use with caution.

M8E 0017
M8F 0017
M8G 0017
M8HA 0017
M8H 0017
M8I 0017


Can you add higher BCLK support on non-k processors so we can compete with Asrock in XTU? My Impact appears to stop at 102.66 (any higher results in BSOD) which isn't enough against 102.9! Yet to check on my Hero board, but assume it will be the same.

South Africa Vivi says:

i felt so sorry for myself installing this lol. So here is a WIN XP 64 clean install ghost for Z170 asus (installed with gene)

use symantec ghost 2005 version

WinXp 64 .GHO
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6vAXlOvsVY2QzRCanhQN3M5MlU

Belgium leeghoofd says:

4/8 working properly Goddy ?

Iran Game Theory says:

one Q: may unlocked bios kill K series chip ?

websmile says:

Mine survived on air - even with LN2 mode set lol

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Seems Bios 0015 has some 3D01 perf issues, reverted back to 0007 on the M VIII Extreme. Nature was happy again at 1480FPS versus 1150 on 0015 on GTX 295.

Sweden elmor says:

I tested with 980Ti and is seeing the opposite. Gained about 60 fps going to 0015 from 0007 on M8E.

Sweden Rauf says:

Saw same thing with GTX 480. Really bad Nature in 01 and 03. 980 Ti is fine though.

United States xxbassplayerxx says:

480 can't run PCI-E Gen 3, right? Maybe the issue is with PCI-E Gen 2.

Belgium leeghoofd says:

elmor said: I tested with 980Ti and is seeing the opposite. Gained about 60 fps going to 0015 from 0007 on M8E.


not seeing is believing Jon :) Seems to be fine indeed with new cards, older stuff needs older bios.. Roman also had perf issues in Nature, old bios fixed it.

Sweden elmor says:

Can you guys help me reproduce this issue? Full settings and setup details please, preferably send me bios profile used as well.

What kind of FPS do you expect on GTX480? Don't have one here but I tested with GTX580 and again with 980Ti but Gen 2 forced. See results below.

M8E, 6700K, 2x8GB
150x28 (27 cache), 2100 DRAM, Xtreme Tweaking Enabled, FCLK 1GHz
XP64 + 364.72 default settings no lod, average of 3 runs 3DM01 Nature

GTX 980Ti 0007: 1828fps 0015: 1893fps
GTX 980Ti (Force PCIE 2.0) 0007: 1927fps 0015: 1918fps
GTX 580 861/2197 0007: 1390fps 0015: 1385fps


As you can see on 980Ti 0015 is faster, but forcing Gen 2 boosts both to about the same higher performance. GTX 580 is the same on both for me.

Sweden elmor says:

Incremental update to 0018, increase IGPU voltage limit to 2V+ M8E 0018 M8F 0018 M8G 0018 M8HA 0018 M8H 0018 M8I 0018 M8R 0018

Indonesia Hazzan says:

elmor said: Incremental update to 0018, increase IGPU voltage limit to 2V+

M8E 0018
M8F 0018
M8G 0018
M8HA 0018
M8H 0018
M8I 0018
M8R 0018



great jobs Jon. Thank you

Belgium leeghoofd says:

elmor said: Can you guys help me reproduce this issue? Full settings and setup details please, preferably send me bios profile used as well.

What kind of FPS do you expect on GTX480? Don't have one here but I tested with GTX580 and again with 980Ti but Gen 2 forced. See results below.

M8E, 6700K, 2x8GB
150x28 (27 cache), 2100 DRAM, Xtreme Tweaking Enabled, FCLK 1GHz
XP64 + 364.72 default settings no lod, average of 3 runs 3DM01 Nature

GTX 980Ti 0007: 1828fps 0015: 1893fps
GTX 980Ti (Force PCIE 2.0) 0007: 1927fps 0015: 1918fps
GTX 580 861/2197 0007: 1390fps 0015: 1385fps


As you can see on 980Ti 0015 is faster, but forcing Gen 2 boosts both to about the same higher performance. GTX 580 is the same on both for me.


I'll run some tests on the GTX 480 tonite Jon. CPU @ 4500/4000 speeds and card around 900ish with bios 0007 and 0015.

With the GTX 295 I tried Gen2 and Extreme Tweak ON/OFF, the Nature was each time 300-400 FPS slower than 0007 (not steady 999 as with 0007 during the Nature benchmark)

Keep you posted

Sweden elmor says:

Leeghoofd said: I'll run some tests on the GTX 480 tonite Jon. CPU @ 4500/4000 speeds and card around 900ish with bios 0007 and 0015.

With the GTX 295 I tried Gen2 and Extreme Tweak ON/OFF, the Nature was each time 300-400 FPS slower than 0007 (not steady 999 as with 0007 during the Nature benchmark)

Keep you posted


Can you run with same settings as me please? Makes comparison so much easier.

Sweden Rauf says:

My 480's are at my benchplace so I can't test right now. I think I have a 295 at home so I might be able to test that. It might be easier to reproduce in 03 as fps was like 1/4 of what it should be there.

Sweden elmor says:

Rauf said: My 480's are at my benchplace so I can't test right now. I think I have a 295 at home so I might be able to test that.

It might be easier to reproduce in 03 as fps was like 1/4 of what it should be there.


Use the same settings and benchmark please. Need to keep data comparable.

Sweden Rauf says:

My gtx 295 was not working so couldn't test it. But found a ref. Gtx 480. It seems it works fine. Got 1141 in nature 01 no matter what bios. Tried 7, 14, 15 on extreme. Elmor's settings.

Sweden elmor says:

Rauf said: My gtx 295 was not working so couldn't test it. But found a ref. Gtx 480. It seems it works fine. Got 1141 in nature 01 no matter what bios. Tried 7, 14, 15 on extreme. Elmor's settings.


Thanks, Albrecht had no problems with GTX 480 either. This seems to be related to SLI not working in XP on 0015.

Netherlands Oldscarface says:

elmor said: Thanks, Albrecht had no problems with GTX 480 either. This seems to be related to SLI not working in XP on 0015.


Jon, if you want I can test it this weekend
Will let you know as soon as possible
I will ask Alby all his settings

Italy rsannino says:

elmor said: Incremental update to 0018, increase IGPU voltage limit to 2V+

M8E 0018
M8F 0018
M8G 0018
M8HA 0018
M8H 0018
M8I 0018
M8R 0018


Thansk for sharing ;)

Sweden elmor says:

Impact BIOS with improved DRAM OC if using 2T and above 4250MHz DRAM frequency. Mainly helps on CHA (inner slot). Still has higher voltages enabled even without LN2 Mode.

M8I 0015 (0411)

Sweden elmor says:

Didn't quite make it in time for the Gskill qualifier but here's a further improved version for memory validation (4500+)

M8I 0019

Italy rsannino says:

Thanks Elmor .. later I will test!

Sweden elmor says:

Updated the link, previous BIOS didn't have XP support. Please download again if you already got it.

United States rtsurfer says:

elmor said: Updated the link, previous BIOS didn't have XP support. Please download again if you already got it.
Can we plz get some more VDIMM, like 2.3-2.4V. Mine scale with Voltage & 2.135V ain't cutting it. [emoji28]

Sweden elmor says:

rtsurfer said: Can we plz get some more VDIMM, like 2.3-2.4V.
Mine scale with Voltage & 2.135V ain't cutting it. [emoji28]


It's a hardware limit. Could perhaps provide a mod?

United States rtsurfer says:

elmor said: It's a hardware limit. Could perhaps provide a mod?
Thank you for your offer to help, I appreciate it. But I'm not able to mod my board because I can't afford losing the warranty on it. :( Too bad its a hardware limit. I have a kit of both B-die & E-die, that scales past 2.135V.

United States Lays says:

Followed the guide to installing XP on Z170, except I'm doing it on my Z170M OCF, I keep getting this error, anyone know what it is?

I tried using like 6 different XP iso's, including one Sam OCX posted that he said had the floppy drivers in it. Still no luck. Tried re-doing all the steps and still same issue.

I also tried using intel sata ports, and also the Asmedia ones on IDE, just to check if that was what I was doing wrong, still no luck.





Here's a picture of the usb drive:


United States Strong Island says:

Lays said: Followed the guide to installing XP on Z170, except I'm doing it on my Z170M OCF, I keep getting this error, anyone know what it is?

I tried using like 6 different XP iso's, including one Sam OCX posted that he said had the floppy drivers in it. Still no luck. Tried re-doing all the steps and still same issue.

I also tried using intel sata ports, and also the Asmedia ones on IDE, just to check if that was what I was doing wrong, still no luck.





Here's a picture of the usb drive:




i know this isnt the right thread but just trying to help, if you have optical drive you can install like normal on asmedia ide port, then ghost it and always have copy. I think someone uploaded a ghost xp around here somewhere. you can also slipstream ahci driver from this thread and switch to intel sata after install

United States Lays says:

Strong Island said: i know this isnt the right thread but just trying to help, if you have optical drive you can install like normal on asmedia ide port, then ghost it and always have copy. I think someone uploaded a ghost xp around here somewhere. you can also slipstream ahci driver from this thread and switch to intel sata after install


Figured it out, but now I get this message, man I suck at this crap lol. This is why I put off installing xp for so long, but my friends keep bugging me to do it and practice 32m :(


websmile says:

The AHCI driver is missing on your USB drive and did you prepare the USB stick with RMprep? If I remeber correctly I also unpacked firadisk drivers, and have them twice on usb, noob style, not sure this makes a difference though

P.S. Asmedia driver missing? I did traditional way on asus and asrock, so maybe you need to add this at Image of xp, I never had this at my installs

United States Lays says:

websmile said: The AHCI driver is missing on your USB drive and did you prepare the USB stick with RMprep? If I remeber correctly I also unpacked firadisk drivers, and have them twice on usb, noob style, not sure this makes a difference though

P.S. Asmedia driver missing? I did traditional way on asus and asrock, so maybe you need to add this at Image of xp, I never had this at my installs


Dunno what's going wrong, yeah I used RMprep.

I tried again, made sure to select the AHCI stuff, then I just get BSOD on step 2 (GUI step) when it tries to boot into windows XP to finish the setup.
If I use the AHCI drivers that the installation media says are already built in, I don't get that BSOD, but I get that error where it says it can't find those files.

I also tried unpacking the firadisk stuff, so I had one packed version and one non packed version of each file, still no go. Tried dragging and dropping the AHCI drivers from the original post on here as well, seems like everything I've tried isn't working.

Is there a way to take out the AHCI drivers that are already built into this install, so that I can put the ones from the original post in it? I've never done anything like that before, so figured I'd ask.

Thanks for all the help, sorry if I'm spamming the thread. Let me know if we need to take it to PM, or a new thread. I'll gladly do so.

Sweden elmor says:

Lays said: Dunno what's going wrong, yeah I used RMprep.

I tried again, made sure to select the AHCI stuff, then I just get BSOD on step 2 (GUI step) when it tries to boot into windows XP to finish the setup.
If I use the AHCI drivers that the installation media says are already built in, I don't get that BSOD, but I get that error where it says it can't find those files.

I also tried unpacking the firadisk stuff, so I had one packed version and one non packed version of each file, still no go. Tried dragging and dropping the AHCI drivers from the original post on here as well, seems like everything I've tried isn't working.

Is there a way to take out the AHCI drivers that are already built into this install, so that I can put the ones from the original post in it? I've never done anything like that before, so figured I'd ask.

Thanks for all the help, sorry if I'm spamming the thread. Let me know if we need to take it to PM, or a new thread. I'll gladly do so.


Are you using an original XP image or is it slimmed down? Did you boot from the USB and selected "Windows XP Setup Step 2 (GUI-mode)" after Step 1?

United States Lays says:

elmor said: Are you using an original XP image or is it slimmed down? Did you boot from the USB and selected "Windows XP Setup Step 2 (GUI-mode)" after Step 1?


It gives me problems in Step 1 and 2, I think it may be the ISO.

Here's the ISO I was using, Sam OCX posted it on a different thread:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dac25nmhi0qir4h/XP+v68.iso



If I try and manually tell the installation to use firadisk driver + intel AHCI driver from "floppy" it tells me it fails to copy IASTOR and a few other files, as well as the Firadisk things.
After I've done step 1 with manually selected firadisk + intel AHCI driver, I get BSOD after trying to do step 2 (GUI) it will post the "windows XP" screen, then BSOD before it does anything.


If I let the installation use it's own "built in" AHCI driver, as well as manually set Firadisk driver, then it fails to copy the Firadisk files. In the guide it says to make sure my WINNT.SIF-File says "OEMPreInstall = YES" so I believe it's OK?

After I do step 1 with manually selected firadisk, and the build in windows AHCI, I get that error that says "the file 'asms' on windows XP professional service pack 3 CD is needed"


I'll try a different ISO now and see if it works.

Sweden elmor says:

Lays said: It gives me problems in Step 1 and 2, I think it may be the ISO.

Here's the ISO I was using, Sam OCX posted it on a different thread:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dac25nmhi0qir4h/XP+v68.iso



If I try and manually tell the installation to use firadisk driver + intel AHCI driver from "floppy" it tells me it fails to copy IASTOR and a few other files, as well as the Firadisk things.
After I've done step 1 with manually selected firadisk + intel AHCI driver, I get BSOD after trying to do step 2 (GUI) it will post the "windows XP" screen, then BSOD before it does anything.


If I let the installation use it's own "built in" AHCI driver, as well as manually set Firadisk driver, then it fails to copy the Firadisk files. In the guide it says to make sure my WINNT.SIF-File says "OEMPreInstall = YES" so I believe it's OK?

After I do step 1 with manually selected firadisk, and the build in windows AHCI, I get that error that says "the file 'asms' on windows XP professional service pack 3 CD is needed"


I'll try a different ISO now and see if it works.


Then my guess is floppy support is removed from the ISO, this is also needed to insert the drivers.

United States GtiJason says:

Lays said: Followed the guide to installing XP on Z170, except I'm doing it on my Z170M OCF, I keep getting this error, anyone know what it is?

I tried using like 6 different XP iso's, including one Sam OCX posted that he said had the floppy drivers in it. Still no luck. Tried re-doing all the steps and still same issue.

I also tried using intel sata ports, and also the Asmedia ones on IDE, just to check if that was what I was doing wrong, still no luck.

Here's a picture of the usb drive:




Mine looks different, no problems installing either


United States GtiJason says:

It looks like you never extracted the folder/files from the download

United States Lays says:

GtiJason said: It looks like you never extracted the folder/files from the download


It looks that way coz of winrar, without winrar it looks like yours:

Except my menu file says menu.list and says it's an LST file, but yours is 'menu" and says it's a masm listing, wonder if somehow mine is messed up?





Ignore the 3 different ISO, those were test subjects :P

United States xxbassplayerxx says:

Lays, make sure to go into the menu and select "Show Extensions". It will make the comparison a bit easier.

United States Strong Island says:

Hey guys, does anyone have trouble installing turbo v core in win 10, I keep getting failed to install I/O driver, does it work with win 10?

Sweden Rauf says:

Yes it works. But sometimes if you slim the OS down it will have trouble install. Installing rog connect first might help with vcore issues. Also try redownloading vcore, i had a slightly corrupt one that screwed up win 8, but worked fine in win 7 and XP.

United States Strong Island says:

Rauf said: Yes it works. But sometimes if you slim the OS down it will have trouble install. Installing rog connect first might help with vcore issues. Also try redownloading vcore, i had a slightly corrupt one that screwed up win 8, but worked fine in win 7 and XP.



Thanks man, it looks like my ssd was possibly failing. I saw it mentioned somewhere in google and tried a good ssd and it worked right away. Really weird.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

Thanks man, i never know if xoc bios support non K overclocking, i try it with 0018 BIOS on Gene and it worked :D

India Toolius says:

Any chance we can get links for 0018 for M8I also sir ? That's the only one that is missing :)

Sweden elmor says:

Here you go. I don't see why you'd use it though since 0019 supersedes it. http://www.mediafire.com/download/67kt4xw5bbvp0w4/MAXIMUS-VIII-IMPACT-ASUS-0018.zip

India Toolius says:

Oh wow... Thank you :)
didn't even know 0019 was out sir :O
Where can i get 0019 from ?
Thank you soo much for the help :)

United States GtiJason says:

elmor said: It's a hardware limit. Could perhaps provide a mod?

I'd be interested in doing the mod, depending on how involved it is or if there are too many downsides

Sweden elmor says:

GtiJason said: I'd be interested in doing the mod, depending on how involved it is or if there are too many downsides


Is it urgent? A bit busy with Computex stuff right now.

United States GtiJason says:

elmor said: Is it urgent? A bit busy with Computex stuff right now.


Not even a little bit, please take as long as you need. Thanks for asking :)

Sweden elmor says:

GtiJason said: Not even a little bit, please take as long as you need. Thanks for asking :)


Great, cheers.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

[MENTION=35568]hambaaaallah[/MENTION] did you boot use firadisk boot screen and choose number 2 menu after you sucessfull install & formatting disk?

Indonesia hambaaaallah says:

speed.fastest said: [MENTION=35568]hambaaaallah[/MENTION] did you boot use firadisk boot screen and choose number 2 menu after you sucessfull install & formatting disk?



yes
I have installed firadisk , then succesfull instal and reboot
if you mean GUI Mode?

Indonesia hambaaaallah says:

finally, i am succesfully install windows xp 32 bit on my skylake

1. download win XP 32 bit tested 100% for skylake --> https://drive.google.com/a/uns.ac.id/file/d/0B2l3owmraXIoWW96cGluLXIwX2M/view?usp=sharing

2. download firadisk for 32 bit --> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmqctauoi6p0i31/Firadisk%20fr%2032%20bit.rar?dl=0

United States Strong Island says:

man going nuts with m8e and cold. After about 30-45min of benching I get a crash and it tries to restart and I get post code 55, which I cant get past. If I change memory to auto I can boot and bench fine.

Last night I spent a few hours cleaning all mem slots with crc contact cleaner and cleaning bottom of cpu and blew out socket with air. I reapplied vas just in case the paper towels removed too much.

But it happened again. CPU was benching 3d06 at 6.5ghz but with stock mem, score is bad.

I also noticed if I disable ram channel A it seems to work fine again.

I killed my first m8e so I havent done a ton of sessions with this board yet. I cant figure out whats wrong.

Sweden Rauf says:

I happens when you bench in a very humid environment. Try insulating all around the mems better.

United States Strong Island says:

Rauf said: I happens when you bench in a very humid environment. Try insulating all around the mems better.


ya it has been humid in new york past couple days, I do have a/c right in bench room.

I cleaned mem slots with crc cleaner and applied vas up against slots and in between each slot (not in them) and then put tissue in between each one.

Gotta start using something besides vas, seems like too many issues for me with mem slots. Gonna try some afr tonight that is prepped for cold to see if helps at all.

It's so frustrating to see 6.5ghz pass in 06 but score so far off because stock mem.

Thanks for the tip.

Romania Alex@ro says:

Clean the socket man, thats where your problems are, had similar issues, had litle traces of vaseline on some pins and on cold weird behaviour occured. Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk

United States Strong Island says:

Alex@ro said: Clean the socket man, thats where your problems are, had similar issues, had litle traces of vaseline on some pins and on cold weird behaviour occured.

Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk


Should I spray some of the crc contact cleaner? The bottom of my case king cpu came a little dirty, I cleaned really well with alcohol, that shouldnt be it right?

Because I always kept my socket so clean, but maybe a tiny bit of vas melted underneath or something.

United States Gunslinger says:

contact cleaner in the socket FTW

United States Strong Island says:

Gunslinger said: contact cleaner in the socket FTW


ok cool thx, finally grabbed my first can from home depot, sprayed socket last night, gonna try cold again now. Trying different memory also. thx man.

United States Strong Island says:

please 1 suggestion to improve m8e for next board. Please make 24pin connector looser fitting. Like exactly the x99 champion connector was perfect. I feel like I am going to damage my board eventually. It's sooo tight. But I love the board otherwise, its amazing.

China rivaldokfc says:

I saw there's 0017 bios for the impact, is there anyone would like to share out?

Thanks~

Brazil joe90br says:

Please, What the better bios for non-k cpu's in Maximus VIII Imapct??? Thanks!!!!

Indonesia hambaaaallah says:

joe90br said: Please, What the better bios for non-k cpu's in Maximus VIII Imapct??? Thanks!!!!



you can try bios version 0018
overall I think this is the best bios for non-k oc on impact

link --> MAXIMUS-VIII-IMPACT-ASUS-0018

Brazil joe90br says:

hambaaaallah said: you can try bios version 0018
overall I think this is the best bios for non-k oc on impact

link --> MAXIMUS-VIII-IMPACT-ASUS-0018


Thanks!!!! I will try.. :)

United States Strong Island says:

I can't believe how easy that xp install guide is. I have been avoiding it because it looked so confusing but it's so fast and you guys addressed every possible error message and made it really easy. Just wanted to say thanks. It's a great guide.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

0018 is awesome, i try this on Gene with i7 non K with crappy IMC. Need little work to make it pass 32M with Wazza.

This in Win7 x64 with Wazza :

United States GtiJason says:

Strong Island said: please 1 suggestion to improve m8e for next board. Please make 24pin connector looser fitting. Like exactly the x99 champion connector was perfect. I feel like I am going to damage my board eventually. It's sooo tight. But I love the board otherwise, its amazing.


These work to solve tight 24pin syndrome for me

PTFE Dry Lubricant & Corrosion Control - WD-40 Specialist

Silicone Lubricant & Silicone Grease - WD-40 Specialist

United States OC Nub says:

thanks for keeping us up to date with latest bios!

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Strong Island said: ya it has been humid in new york past couple days, I do have a/c right in bench room.

I cleaned mem slots with crc cleaner and applied vas up against slots and in between each slot (not in them) and then put tissue in between each one.

Gotta start using something besides vas, seems like too many issues for me with mem slots. Gonna try some afr tonight that is prepped for cold to see if helps at all.

It's so frustrating to see 6.5ghz pass in 06 but score so far off because stock mem.

Thanks for the tip.



I am having the same problems.
Running smooth for an hour or so and then the mem kicks in.
The only way to free up the board is by putting the mem on default.
Or putting the whole board back to default.

I am aware that a part of the problem is humidity. BUt I am not working with vas but with kneeable eraser. I saw some reactions about putting some contact cleaner in thet socket and mem. Did it gave you the expected results ?
Am I just gonna spray that thing with contact cleaner ?

Thanks in advance.

Sweden Rauf says:

5erveD said: I am having the same problems.
Running smooth for an hour or so and then the mem kicks in.
The only way to free up the board is by putting the mem on default.
Or putting the whole board back to default.

I am aware that a part of the problem is humidity. BUt I am not working with vas but with kneeable eraser. I saw some reactions about putting some contact cleaner in thet socket and mem. Did it gave you the expected results ?
Am I just gonna spray that thing with contact cleaner ?

Thanks in advance.

I have never really used vaseline except for on old vgas. I don't think it is good. I have used LET alot, but I'm actually moving more to just the blue shop paper towels. It is enough for any sort of XOC, and actually better for some applications. I would recommend you to pack these blue paper towels tightly around the memory and the slots. If there is no free air around the memory or slots there can be no condensation. Or get a powerful dehumidifier :)

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Rauf said: I have never really used vaseline except for on old vgas. I don't think it is good. I have used LET alot, but I'm actually moving more to just the blue shop paper towels. It is enough for any sort of XOC, and actually better for some applications. I would recommend you to pack these blue paper towels tightly around the memory and the slots. If there is no free air around the memory or slots there can be no condensation. Or get a powerful dehumidifier :)



Cheers.

So, only the blue stuff ? For the "short" sessions.
Short as in terms of 2/3 hours, 4 tops ?
And it isn't giving any problems ?

Never tried LET before. Mostly the eraser.
But am willing to give other isolation a go.
Was looking at dragon skin.
Stuff they use as a foundation for make up in movies and theater.

The eraser can be a very time consuming job tho. Gets me fed up sometimes.
Took me whole night to get the eraser off last time.

I'll keep a look out on the dehumidifier.

Sweden Rauf says:

The time depends on many factors. Bigger board will not freeze up as the impact does after some time at full pot. Also if you bench at full pot or higher temps. If you bench cpu only or gpu/mem on cold etc. And of course humidity.

Eraser is no point as it makes the board freeze faster. And insulation is not that big an issue if you have some experience and think about what areas will be the ones you need to focus on. Basically you need to think about what gives you the issue and try to adjust next time.

A few things you can try while you are running:
Bring temps down if you bench at a higher temp. For example -100 is not cold enough so it can cause free water at some spots on the board. Bring the temperature down colder and turn the system off. This may freeze the water and ice do not conduct so it can give you a little more time.
Second is to heat up a little if you run a smaller board at full pot and the board is too cold. This will only give you a few more minutes though is it will freeze fast o ce you go colder again.

Netherlands 5erveD says:

I wil bear that in mind and thanks for the information.

United States OC Nub says:

5erveD said: Cheers.

So, only the blue stuff ? For the "short" sessions.
Short as in terms of 2/3 hours, 4 tops ?
And it isn't giving any problems ?

Never tried LET before. Mostly the eraser.
But am willing to give other isolation a go.
Was looking at dragon skin.
Stuff they use as a foundation for make up in movies and theater.

The eraser can be a very time consuming job tho. Gets me fed up sometimes.
Took me whole night to get the eraser off last time.

I'll keep a look out on the dehumidifier.


Dehumidifier works great, I use to use one years ago. The humidity where I live is very bad in summer months. turn it on a few hours before benching, it will pull most of the humididy from the room. it will also create heat, make sure AC is on.

United States coolhandluke41 says:

Vaseline is great,chased with heat gun ,I use this stuff in DIMM slots external/mobo and gold fingers never had an issue ,dielectric grease is no-no and was mention in the past ,lates gen. have a soft spot especially running full pot with mem on air since DIMM slots are very close to the pot ,I had few close calls and modules got wet...tried different fans but the one that works quite well for me at the moment is 80MM Yeate Loon (1.50$) sucking air upwords ,some don't use anything and let the mem freeze ,TP around is must..just my 2c

United States Strong Island says:

5erveD said: I am having the same problems.
Running smooth for an hour or so and then the mem kicks in.
The only way to free up the board is by putting the mem on default.
Or putting the whole board back to default.

I am aware that a part of the problem is humidity. BUt I am not working with vas but with kneeable eraser. I saw some reactions about putting some contact cleaner in thet socket and mem. Did it gave you the expected results ?
Am I just gonna spray that thing with contact cleaner ?

Thanks in advance.



i think my trouble was the vaseline in socket, contact cleaner helped but only for an extra 20min. for you it probably wouldnt help since not using vas.

i hate to say this but i got a new board and no more trouble, no sure if coincidence or not. i have been using more paper towels around mem and sealed sides of mem slots with let.

are you getting stuck at 55.

i also needed more powerful fan for pulling the moisture

Italy RULE says:

You guys should consider to buy a dehumidifier, will be 300€ and you can run for hours if you can have 40% humidity or less in your bench room. Inviato dal mio SM-A300FU utilizzando Tapatalk

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Strong Island said: i think my trouble was the vaseline in socket, contact cleaner helped but only for an extra 20min. for you it probably wouldnt help since not using vas.

i hate to say this but i got a new board and no more trouble, no sure if coincidence or not. i have been using more paper towels around mem and sealed sides of mem slots with let.

are you getting stuck at 55.

i also needed more powerful fan for pulling the moisture



Hmmmm. I Hope not.
The M8E is still fully functional.
It is just that your story sounded so familiar ;-)

It only happends when we are having high humidity days here in the Netherlands.
Had a good session a few days later when it was bit better.

I pulled the gum of the board the other day, which was there on for quite some time now.
A total pain in the a$$ to get it off. All seems ok.

I am having it running on air for now. Will get the contact cleaner en give it a go.
For sure need more towels and stuff wrapped around the sweet spots.

I pulled a house fan from another room and pointed that at the board from a moderate distance. Helped a bit with the humidity.

Deff need to take a look at a dehumidifier.

Edit; not completly stuck at 55. It wil run eventually but sometimes it is better to abort to life another day imo.

United States OC Nub says:

should be able to get one for 200€ or less that is sufficient for one room.

United States Strong Island says:

5erveD said: Hmmmm. I Hope not.
The M8E is still fully functional.
It is just that your story sounded so familiar ;-)

It only happends when we are having high humidity days here in the Netherlands.
Had a good session a few days later when it was bit better.

I pulled the gum of the board the other day, which was there on for quite some time now.
A total pain in the a$$ to get it off. All seems ok.

I am having it running on air for now. Will get the contact cleaner en give it a go.
For sure need more towels and stuff wrapped around the sweet spots.

I pulled a house fan from another room and pointed that at the board from a moderate distance. Helped a bit with the humidity.

Deff need to take a look at a dehumidifier.

Edit; not completly stuck at 55. It wil run eventually but sometimes it is better to abort to life another day imo.


Ya we had some really humid days, and I think my fan wasnt pulling the air away enough and I was getting moisture in the memory slots, the air was falling too much on memory area. So I think it was a combo of a few different things.

I am not even sure if the new board fixed it or I am doing things a bit better, with no vas, more powerful fan, less humidity with a/c, and more paper towels.

If you didnt use vas and didnt get any residue in socket dont even try the contact cleaner, until you need to, at least imo. Try and pull more air away, reduce humidity and try and seal up memory area better.

Last night I was benching full pot for 2hrs on m8e without a single issue, I shut the mobo down instead of it shutting down on me, which is what usually ends my sessions lately.

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Ok. Do you still got the old board ? Or is it a gonner ?

Indonesia hambaaaallah says:

joe90br said: Thanks!!!! I will try.. :)


You're Welcome :)

Finland kezu says:

Anybody on maximus ranger? I have dreaded problem with memory overclocking. So far 3450mhz with 1.25 vccio and 1.3v sa Constant 41/55 post code errors. I have fiddled thru almost every subtiming and no luck. When i get close to max mem wall. Cpu drops down to 28 multi or refuses to oc via multiplier. Already tested two mem kits. But when i use just one stick or in single channel i can get past 3800mhz. Is there something deeper in bios settings, or asus have so tight settings and we cannot change via bios? don't know, but this has taken nearly 20 hours to fiddle out settings.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

[MENTION=10347]kezu[/MENTION] : Asus Maximus VIII Ranger Memory Spec is DDR4-3400, so thats normal if you hard to get above that. Compared to Gene that Memory Spec DDR4-3800. So i think your Ranger is normal.

Finland kezu says:

speed.fastest said: [MENTION=10347]kezu[/MENTION] : Asus Maximus VIII Ranger Memory Spec is DDR4-3400, so thats normal if you hard to get above that. Compared to Gene that Memory Spec DDR4-3800. So i think your Ranger is normal.


Okay, so gotta buy board which allows more OC headroom for memory. Asrock it should be then. :D

Thanks, just strange little bit more expensive board has option for relaxed timings. But i am not expert, is it the timings etc reason for the board not willing to oc memory above 3400 or just hardware limit. (components etc)

Sweden elmor says:

kezu said: Okay, so gotta buy board which allows more OC headroom for memory. Asrock it should be then. :D

Thanks, just strange little bit more expensive board has option for relaxed timings. But i am not expert, is it the timings etc reason for the board not willing to oc memory above 3400 or just hardware limit. (components etc)


Honestly never used this board, but since it has official QVL up to 3466 with Samsung B-die it should be able to reach at least ~4000 with loose timings. Which BIOS and sticks are you using?

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/MAXIMUS_VIII_RANGER/M8R_DRAM_QVL_20160411.pdf?_ga=1.155860658.867774124.1405396885

Finland kezu says:

elmor said: Honestly never used this board, but since it has official QVL up to 3466 with Samsung B-die it should be able to reach at least ~4000 with loose timings. Which BIOS and sticks are you using?

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1151/MAXIMUS_VIII_RANGER/M8R_DRAM_QVL_20160411.pdf?_ga=1.155860658.867774124.1405396885


0018 & 190x official. Tested both of them

hyperx 2666mhz 16gb kit wont post above 2900mhz.

Patriot viper 3600c17 2x4 gb singlesided sticks. No matter what. Wont go above 3450mhz
I assume those are E - die. But seems like im not the only one who's affected with this problem. Doing google search there's lots of complaints even mem's not working when QVL.

Especially thru xmp settings. Already done lots of fiddling to sub timings. But no help.

United States OC Nub says:

I have same board and have same problem with hi MHz on memory

tried 0014 and 0018 bios

Finland kezu says:

OC Nub said: I have same board and have same problem with hi MHz on memory

tried 0014 and 0018 bios


What mem's you have and whats the max mhz you are able to obtain?
I might have few tricks which may get you few mhz more :)

Edit, gonna reach out raja. Maybe he can throw some tricks to us. Funny that bit more expensive rog mb's have option to use maximus tweak's but alas. Ranger does not have.

United States OC Nub says:

3333mhz highest stable, a kit of 4x8gb TridentZ 3200c14, and a 4x4gb kit of ripjaws4, 3000c15. much higher and i get 55, even if i loosen timings. idk if its the board or the imc or my settings lol. i am happy with the ranger, great price with lots of features. however, i wanted the gene board but none in stock at the time i bought this.

Finland kezu says:

OC Nub said: 3333mhz highest stable, a kit of 4x8gb TridentZ 3200c14, and a 4x4gb kit of ripjaws4, 3000c15. much higher and i get 55, even if i loosen timings. idk if its the board or the imc or my settings lol. i am happy with the ranger, great price with lots of features. however, i wanted the gene board but none in stock at the time i bought this.


Well i asked, if there's coming out maximus tweak option for ranger board. Simply answer was. 4 layer board, i have maxed out mem oc. Something to do with signals. So no loose subtiming options for us.


Edit, anybody has any pics what the maximus tweak mode 1 changes in bios? or is it coded to bios itself?

United States OC Nub says:

i might try the gene board, this sucks for us i guess. thanks for checking into it

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

Anyone tested 0018 BIOS on Maximus VIII Gene? I haven't found noexecute=alwaysoff yet on BIOS. Any help would help my SuperPi 32M score a lot :D

United States rtsurfer says:

speed.fastest said: Anyone tested 0018 BIOS on Maximus VIII Gene? I haven't found noexecute=alwaysoff yet on BIOS. Any help would help my SuperPi 32M score a lot :D
You don't need the BIOS to support no execute. You can do noexecute=alwaysoff as a switch in boot.ini Similar to how you do Maxmem. Edit:- That said, the newer BIOSes are supposed to have an execute disable bit, option in advance Cpu settings.

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

Thank you for your help, already did in boot.ini, just to make sure in BIOS if it helped :D

United States rtsurfer says:

speed.fastest said: Thank you for your help, already did in boot.ini, just to make sure in BIOS if it helped :D
Doesn't make a difference as far as I know. But as I said, there should be an "Execute disable bit" option in newer BIOSes. I believe its under Advanced->CPU configuration. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

United States OC Nub says:

new chip 6700k batch X610B351 testing now on mviii ranger

United States OC Nub says:

4800/4500 cbr15 new chip

Serbia d0minat0r says:

Big thanks for guide for installation XP and WIN7 work flawless on Impact.

United States Medico says:

Hi to all,

I know some people claimed to overclock to 4.8 using air cooling. They used Noctua NH-D15; I have D15S with 2 fans. Is anybody familiar with the settings for that overclocking with Maximus VIII extreme? To start overclocking, should we use adaptive mode or manual?

Here we have a guide for overclocking the BCLK. To overclock that, do you need to place in manual mode first, then if stable go to adaptive mode or can you do it while adaptive mode? Is high BCLK no recommended but close to 100 is better? Is C state enable shortening the life of the CPU? I read it does. How good is offset mode in overclocking? I have many questions. I tried to get the best overclocking with no harm to the hardware.

Thank you,
Medico

United States Strong Island says:

Medico said: Hi to all,

I know some people claimed to overclock to 4.8 using air cooling. They used Noctua NH-D15; I have D15S with 2 fans. Is anybody familiar with the settings for that overclocking with Maximus VIII extreme? To start overclocking, should we use adaptive mode or manual?

Here we have a guide for overclocking the BCLK. To overclock that, do you need to place in manual mode first, then if stable go to adaptive mode or can you do it while adaptive mode? Is high BCLK no recommended but close to 100 is better? Is C state enable shortening the life of the CPU? I read it does. How good is offset mode in overclocking? I have many questions. I tried to get the best overclocking with no harm to the hardware.

Thank you,
Medico



Well first it depends on what you want to do with your pc.

For benchmarking I use manual mode so I have a steady voltage. C-States are power saving states when the cpu is idle. I turn them off on my m8e. Since the bclk is now decoupled from dmi and pcie you can overclock the bclk a lot more and could actually use that instead of multiplier, But for starters I would stick with multiplier.

You also didnt mention what cpu you have so this is just very general.

But set voltage to manual mode and try 1.25v - 1.3v, set cpu multiplier to around 45 and try maybe cinebench r15 to see if you can pass. If you crash you can try a bit higher voltage, if no crash can try 46 multi.

But I am not really sure of your ambient temp and how good your cooling is setup so be careful raising voltage too high and make sure to have a temp monitor open when running cinebench or whatever bench you want to be stable for.

United States Medico says:

Thank you for your reply. My CPU is 6700K. Room temperature is around 79*F. I am using RealBench 2.44 to check for stability. I was able to run with no BSOD for 15 minutes with overclocking using multiplier 47x100 4.7 with manual setting and voltage override of 1.36. CPU max temperature went up to around 90*F in one core. I am trying to run PC for benchmarking, gaming and normal use with low temperatures as possible and the lower voltage as possible and high overclocking. If I use the frequency, it may affect temperature less, Adaptive too as required less voltage. Moreover, temperatures are lower but have some strange instability with RealBench 2.44. It increases the DRAM reference. I was told to keep it the original stable one. I tried 1.34 volts and was unstable. I tried 1.35v and maximum temperature was 84*F but BSOD said:

This was probably caused by the following module: dxgkrnl.sys (dxgkrnl+0x9A448)
Bugcheck code: 0x3B (0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF800AD5EA448, 0xFFFFD0002B4EDB00, 0x0)
Error: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: DirectX Graphics Kernel
Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
What can be done to lower the temperatures?

Thanks,
Medico

United States sabishiihito says:

0x3B means you need more vcore. You aren't likely to be able to do 4.7GHz under 1.4v. I know my 6700k needs 1.45v for 4.7GHz Prime95 stable 1 hour.

Portugal Billy-The-Kid says:

Any one know the way to set core multiplier less then 40x... i have runing high bclk and want to set 39x multiplier only with ocpainel oc painel :)

Romania Alex@ro says:

Disable turbo :)

Portugal Billy-The-Kid says:

:) thanks will try it today :)

Portugal Billy-The-Kid says:

Alex@ro said: Disable turbo :)


Don´t work, when i torn off the turbo i lose this option in oc painel.... :(

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Hi guys.

I am trying to build a usb stick to install xp with, on the extreme.
I followed the steps in the guide. And I am at the point where I am ready to fire up the usb and start loading the os into the ram.

But when I am selecting the first step of installing (install windows xp txt mode) it gives me an error. Error 15. It says file not found.

What am i doing wrong ?
I am hoping one of you is able to give me some pointers to sort this out.

Thanx in advance.

United States Strong Island says:

5erveD said: Hi guys.

I am trying to build a usb stick to install xp with, on the extreme.
I followed the steps in the guide. And I am at the point where I am ready to fire up the usb and start loading the os into the ram.

But when I am selecting the first step of installing (install windows xp txt mode) it gives me an error. Error 15. It says file not found.

What am i doing wrong ?
I am hoping one of you is able to give me some pointers to sort this out.

Thanx in advance.


did you make sure to label the iso exactly like in the guide XP or XP64, I also had trouble with a very stripped iso but most work great.

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Thanks for your reply, Yes. I named it exactly as written in the guide. ( XP.iso ) Have tried several iso's. Stripped ones as well as a full one. Even build a new one with nlited. All gave me no joy. Where shoul I look ? In the direction of the iso or some other direction ?

United States Strong Island says:

5erveD said: Thanks for your reply,

Yes.

I named it exactly as written in the guide. ( XP.iso )
Have tried several iso's. Stripped ones as well as a full one.
Even build a new one with nlited.

All gave me no joy.

Where shoul I look ?
In the direction of the iso or some other direction ?


did you actually label it XP.iso in the name or are you listing iso as the file extension. I know this sounds so dumb but at the beginning I accidentally named it xp.iso. I know it sounds silly but it could happen. Otherwise I am not exactly sure. Also some usb drives just don't work right, my 32gb microcenter usb 3.0 drive just doesn't work no matter what I try, new one works great

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Well, I think ur on to some thing here. I did labelled is as XP.iso. Am I really that f..... stupid? Wait, I'll give it a try right away. I'll get back to u in a min!

Netherlands 5erveD says:

It is official! I am that stupid. Cheers, It is loading now. Can I get you something, a beer or a soda ?

United States Strong Island says:

5erveD said: It is official!
I am that stupid.

Cheers, It is loading now.

Can I get you something, a beer or a soda ?


well hey if your stupid then I am right there with you, haha. I guess I was over thinking it at the time, I knew it was the file extension but was trying to be too perfect.

United States GtiJason says:

5erveD said: It is official!
I am that stupid.

Cheers, It is loading now.

Can I get you something, a beer or a soda ?


Common mistake, good work SI for catching that

Netherlands 5erveD says:

Thanks again guys. I couldn't make a full install at the end. I am not sure anymore what the problem was. I'll be taking a look later. Went straight to bed last night. And just got a gtx 580 matrix in the mail so i'll be testing that one first.

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