AMD Talks Up Zen - Greater Than 40% IPC Improvement

AMD’s forthcoming Zen architecture CPUs, according to recent statements, will have more than 40% IPC (instructions-per-cycle) improvement. The source added that current testing is proving that the new design is performing even better than expected, news that means AMD may well be poised to once again compete with Intel in the high performance desktop PC segment.

The news apparently comes from forum posts made by a former AMD employee who also states that the new processor design had "Met All Expectations" with no "Significant Bottlenecks". Good news indeed if it is true. The figure of 40% more instructions per clock would mean a very substantial improvement over current AMD processors

AMD is expected to launch the new Zen-based CPUs later this year, arriving with a new AM4 socket, DDR4 support, and hopefully enough performance to really liven up the consumer and enterprise processor space. Good news for PC enthusiasts and overclockers who will doubtless be excited at the prospects.

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FlanK3r says:

hope, these CPU will be solid alternative to the Intel LGA1151/1150 CPUs

Germany der8auer says:

I really hope AMD will catch up with Intel. The market needs it badly.

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Fingers crossed...

websmile says:

It´s time, I´m tired of 10 years + of no competition at all for Intel

zeropluszero says:

Benchmark results or it didnt happen AMD

websmile says:

zeropluszero said: Benchmark results or it didnt happen AMD


I thought I was the only one who still remembers the bulldozer hype :p

K404 says:

Show me the benchmarks :D I hope this is true... and across the board. Not just 3 out of 372 scenarios.

FlanK3r says:

remember at Phenoms II era? I think and hope, this will be similar. Its 100% sure, this CPU cant beat Intel. But it could be good overall against 4c/8t Intels. And hope for some LN2 fun.Last AMD highend CPUs was without coldbug :)

Greece TASOS says:

I would consider this as a win situation (for AMD) , if Zen could match up the performance of Haswell.

GENiEBEN says:

40%, so still nowhere near Intel, open up anus for $2000 Intels.

United Kingdom TheMadDutchDude says:

Is there any idea as to when this is meant to hit the shelves? I'll speak with my AMD rep tomorrow but I don't know if I can extract any info from her just yet. You can bet your sweet money that I am asking her for a chip too. :D

Indonesia speed.fastest says:

If my calculation right, AMD Zen 40% Improvement IPC will like Sandy Bridge or the most Haswell. I hope they can compensate the price and give many core to give good Physics Score, so can bench modern 3D cheaper :D

FlanK3r says:

I believe, classic AMD CPUs were always good in multithread scenarios as videorendering, videoencoding, 3D render, modern packing/unpacking soft, special calculations. In HWBot benchamrs good in hwbotprime, ussally solid in wprime 1024M, CInebenchs renders, GPUPi CPU, x264/265. So I think, the pure core performance could be near the Nehalem/SB with a bit luck (in software with modern isntructions could be better than SB) and in multithread similar to Haswell/Skylake CPUs. But its only my tip.

Poland phobosq says:

websmile said: I thought I was the only one who still remembers the bulldozer hype :p


Hands up who had AM3 board with Phenom 2 inside and waited to upgrade to FX just to toss it all away after it became available! :)

Strunkenbold says:

Lets wait till they test this new Athlon X4 845 to find out what 40% actually means.

United States rtsurfer says:

Currently it looks like performance will endup between Sandy & Ivy. Sad, but I'd still buy it because I'd rather not have an Intel monopoly.

Australia newlife says:

Strunkenbold said: Lets wait till they test this new Athlon X4 845 to find out what 40% actually means.


The race to get an Athlon 845 begins

Belgium Massman says:

TheMadDutchDude said: Is there any idea as to when this is meant to hit the shelves? I'll speak with my AMD rep tomorrow but I don't know if I can extract any info from her just yet. You can bet your sweet money that I am asking her for a chip too. :D


Chips are nowhere near ready for market. Hell, I don't think ODMs have started designing AM4 boards yet!

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

Massman said: Chips are nowhere near ready for market. Hell, I don't think ODMs have started designing AM4 boards yet!


I think similar, it's too early, no boards yet and so on :)

If rumours 40% IPC gain are true, that's nice and AMD might get back shares in the market with good pricing. Though considering AMD is the master of slides presentation, let's wait for some real ES results :)

Romania Alex@ro says:

Competition is welcome,would be nice to see some core/cpu-nb ram and other tweaking from AMD ...

FlanK3r says:

but Im talking soemtimes with Stilt and imporvement in Superpi with Carizzo doesnt mean this improvement is same in all benchmarks. The difference is because L1D and L1 changed.

Philippines dhenzjhen says:

I just hope this zen thingy isn't equivalent to socket 1366 speed. LOL!!!

FlanK3r says:

It coudl eb good in pure performance (without AES, AVX etc) Look at core i7 Bloomnfield vs i7 SKylake clock to clock. Not much big improvement in pure x86...

Philippines dhenzjhen says:

Now I'm curious to see linpack scores. Would like to see scores using atlas or gotoblas2 mathlib. #HPC Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Belgium leeghoofd says:

I want a 12 core Thuban at 7Ghz... that would rock!!

Czech Republic havli says:

flanker said: It coudl eb good in pure performance (without AES, AVX etc)

Look at core i7 Bloomnfield vs i7 SKylake clock to clock. Not much big improvement in pure x86...

50% IPC gain is not much? 4GHz Nehalem in R11.5 = 6.92, 6700k = 10.2.

FlanK3r says:

OK, per core clock to clock in Cinebench :) (hyperthreading effectivity is higher, its true) Example in old superpi 4.2 GHz Nehalem 9.8s Haswell 8.6s BF3: 38,2 FPs vs 42,5 FPS wprime 32M 7,98s vs 6,211s there is not the 50%....

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