|3DMark11 - Performance||GeForce GTX 1080 Ti||2607/1626 MHz||k|ngp|n||45044 marks||125.5 pts||4 6|
|Cinebench - R15||Xeon Platinum 8160||Rauwomos||10038 cb||114.1 pts||0 1|
|wPrime - 1024m||Xeon Platinum 8160||Rauwomos||24sec 786ms||66.9 pts||0 1|
|SuperPi - 32M||Core i7 7700K||7107 MHz||Rauf||4min 16sec 94ms||65.9 pts||1 4|
|SuperPi - 1M||Core i7 7700K||7100 MHz||bigblock990||4sec 984ms||64.9 pts||2 1|
|XTU||Core i3 7350K||coolhandluke41||1177 marks||52.1 pts||0 0|
|PiFast||Core i7 7700K||7100 MHz||bigblock990||8sec 910ms||49.6 pts||0 1|
|Aquamark||GeForce 8800 GTS 512 Mb||1080/1166 MHz||scannick||507208 marks||39.6 pts||0 1|
|3DMark2001 SE||GeForce GTX 285||1015/1400 MHz||scannick||164574 marks||39.4 pts||0 0|
|XTU||Core i7 7700K||5400 MHz||avalanche||1853 marks||38.6 pts||0 0|
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The final article in our Motherboard Memory Lane series brings us right up to date with a look at the current AMD AM4 platform. AM4 series motherboards support AMD Zen architecture CPUs, a new platform which AMD hoped would finally elevate the company back into the upper-mainstream PC component ecosystem, a place that had been utterly dominated by Intel for most of the last decade. The platform arrived with a new socket, new chipset series, new AMD Ryzen CPUs and a newly invigorated sense of purpose. Let’s take a look at the key platform features, the motherboards that are currently most popular and the CPUs that are being used to make some very decent scores on the HWBOT database.
The first systems to use the AMD AM4 Socket were in fact built by OEMs HP and Lenovo in late 2016 who were given exclusive access to the new platform. It arrived with Bristol Ridge-based APUs that featured Excavator cores, the last iteration of AMD’s Bulldozer CPU architecture. As far as the mainstream DIY PC consumer and enthusiast space, it barely registered a blip on the radar. We were all far too preoccupied with waiting for Zen to arrive.
We continue our Motherboard Memory Lane series today with a look at the AMD FM2+ platform, the follow up to the FM2 Socket and its Trinity-based APUs that we considered in last week’s article. Socket FM2+ represents AMD’s third attempt to trying to gain traction in the budget to mid-range desktop PC segment, arriving with a refreshed series of Kaveri-based APUs and an updated FCH (or chipset if you prefer). Let’s push on and take a look at the new platform, the motherboards that were popular in this era and some of the more impressive scores that were submitted to HWBOT.
Where Intel had managed to maintain to a ‘tick-tock’ cadence with its processor launches, AMD enjoyed an odd dance all of its own. The first AMD Accelerated Processor Units (APUs) debuted with FM1 in mid-2011 and featured Llano architecture chips. Then FM2 came along in October 2012 with and Trinity and subsequent Richland architecture APUs which were eventually followed by updated Kabini models on mobile platforms only. FM2+ launched in January 2014 with Kaveri, seeing AMD having one last roll of the dice before the new AM4 socket and the eagerly anticipated Zen architecture made its bow on center stage.
Today our Motherboard Memory Lane series sets its sights on the FM2 Socket, an update to the previous FM1 platform that arrived with a new Chipset and an updated range of AMD APUs. Let’s crack on and check out the new technologies that AMD brought to the table, the motherboards that helped define the era and of course, some of the more impressive scores that were submitted to the HWBOT database using the FM2 platform.
The first iteration of AMD’s budget to mid-range APU lineup arrived in Mid-2011 using the FM1 socket. AMD hoped to woo gamers and enthusiasts with a new kind of processor that combined a quad-core CPU with a GPU that actually resembled something similar to a discrete part. AMD’s strategy involved leveraging the graphics technologies that it acquired when it had bought ATi, offering a more complete and heterogeneous design that was beyond Intel’s capabilities. The platform failed to really compete with Intel’s Sandy Bridge offerings however, and ultimately disappointed, despite having a clear advantage in most gaming tests when compared with Intel’s HD Graphics offerings..
This week’s trip down Motherboard Memory Lane brings us to the AMD AM3+ platform. Arriving in 2011 with a new enthusiast chipset and new range of FX branded CPUs, the new platform was AMD’s reinvigorated drive into the high performance PC space where Intel had long ago stolen a march. Let’s take a look at the most popular motherboards and processors of that era, the technologies involved and some of the more impressive scores submitted on HWBOT.
In terms of technical detail, the AM3+ Socket was in many respects virtually identical to its predecessor, the AM3 Socket. Motherboards arriving with the new AM3+ Socket also sported revised and updated AMD 900 series chipsets, the most popular with HWBOT users being the top tier 990FX which effectively replaced the previous generation 880FX.
New AMD AM3+ series motherboards were officially launched in June of 2011, some months before the Bulldozer-based FX-series CPUs arrived on the scene. In terms of CPU support the new socket was backwards compatible with AM3 series processors that include Phenom, Athlon and Sempron chips that also used a DDR3 compatible memory controller. Previous AM2+ platform processors were not supported. Enthusiasts had to wait until October 2011 before they could complement the new socket and chipset with the revamped FX lineup of CPUs based on the Bulldozer and subsequent Piledriver architectures.
Our Motherboard Memory Lane series today arrives at the AMD Socket FM1 era. The arrival of the FM1 Socket heralded a significant change in direction for AMD which launched its first Accelerated Processor Units or APUs in the market. Aimed at the mainstream to entry-level segment the new platform hoped to woo PC enthusiasts and overclockers with a relatively decent CPU coupled with a much beefier integrated GPU. Let’s take a closer at the new platform, the motherboards and processors that were popular during this era and of course, some of the most notable scores posted on HWBOT.
The arrival of the AMD FM1 Socket marked a pivotal change in the overall AMD product lineup. Socket FM1 would become the mid-range and entry-level platform leaving the mature AM3+ platform to spearhead its high-end offerings. Whereas previous mainstream platforms from AMD had relied upon a Northbridge Chipset such as the AMD 880G and AMD 880GX to deliver integrated graphics and digital display outputs, the new FM1 platform used Accelerated Processor Units had a much more substantial GPU baked into the processor itself. AMD would later release its Bulldozer-based AMD FX series processors on the AM3+ platform in an attempt to better compete with Intel’s recently arrived Sandy Bridge offerings.
This week’s OC Show was broadcast a day earlier than usual, hitting the air waves of TwitchTV late last night. As per usual Episode 8 of Season 4 featured Atlas, Toolius and Buildzoid who kicked off the show with a chat about about new HWBOT No.1, the one and only $@39@. Apart from an in depth discussion about exactly how one pronounces the guy’s actual name (think saegar…) they also go on to examine exactly what approach he took in order to amass so many points in a relatively short amount of time.
The guys continue with a look at recent action on OC-ESPORTS were the Alza Cup, Road to Pro Challenger Divisions and the Team Cup are attracting plenty of overclocking action, not mention the recently finished Rookie Rumble #46 which was won by Frenchman Prote1n. Buildzoid professes to not actually being a fan of contest overclocking – you spend all that time trying to hit a nice score, then find out that you’re not even in the top ten. Yep… actually competitive overclocking ain’t easy.
The discussion turns to the recent news that has appeared including news from Intel that the platform after Coffee lake (Cannon Lake) will be manufactured on a new 10nm process. A nice newsflash that almost replaces not having IDF this year. There’s also discussion about Intel’s renaming of its B-Series chipset and the affects of the currency mining on graphics card pricing. The team then turn their attention to AMD Vega graphics cards and whether or not they really are good mining cards.
You can find the OC Show, Episode 8, Season 4 here on the OC-TV YouTube channel.
The new 16-core / 32-thread Core i9 7960X processor is not yet available on the market, but the word on the street is that Intel did in fact give the go ahead for industry partners to ‘leak’ a few scores and make them public. Oddly enough, this happened just as AMD’s Threadripper was officially launched. Go figure. A week ago GIGABYTE in-house overclockers Sofos1990 (Greece) and Hicookie (Taiwan) made several very impressive 16-core Global First Place scores using the Skylake-X Core i9 7960X, as did Splave (US). In the last 24 hours or so, Splave has enjoyed another session with the i9 7960X, one that reaped two World Records and five new Global First Place scores.
The new World Record for the HWBOT X265 benchmark now stands at 174.05 fps. To hit this score it looks like Splave pushed his i9 7960X to 5,470MHz. This beat the previous record from Sofos1990 who hit 173.38 fps at 5,400MHz. The other World Record is in the wPrime 32M benchmark where Splave managed a run of just 1sec 246ms with the new Skylake-X chip set to 5,465MHz. Splave used the same ASRock X299 OC Formula board that he was running a week or so ago.
In terms of Global First Places, Splave managed a score of 52.44 cb points in the Cinebench R11.5 benchmark, the fastest ever for a 16-core CPU. In Cinebench R15 he made a GFP score of 4,941 cb points, followed by a GFP score of 81,046 points in Geekbench3 Multi-Core, a GFP score of 14,927.51 pps in HWBOT Prime and a GFP run of 29sec 374ms in wPrime 1024M.
You can find all the scores in the licks above, or alternatively check out the Splave profile page here on HWBOT.
In the world PCB breakdown videos on YouTube there stands only man. One man who has single handedly managed to make the world of graphics card PCBs as interesting as possible, especially from an overclocking perspective. That man is Buildzoid. His recent adventures have dealt with a few aftermarket GTX 108 Ti cards that have become available in the last few weeks and months. Popular cards include the Kingpin Edition from EVGA and the MSI Lightening, among others. Today I want to bring your attention to the GALAX take on an extreme GTX 1080 Ti card with Buildzoid’s breakdown of the GALAX 1080 Ti Hall of Fame card. In short it is total and utter OC overkill… in a beautiful sense of course.
The first thing that Buildzoid points out relates to the card’s somewhat OTT power configuration that includes a third 8-pin power socket. Once you take on board that a pair of 8-pin sockets can provide well over 600W of juice, it’s kind of obvious that adding a third to a Pascal card is kind of unnecessary. Marketing? Well yes. As Buildzoid explains, “It’s there to make you feel good about yourself…. Or something.”
Moving to the Vcore VRM, things get very tasty indeed. “It is awesome. It is amazing.” In fact it has 16 phases, four more than the Kingpin Edition and two more than MSI’s Lightening card. To be fair it does use a doubling scheme and thusly an 8-phase voltage controller chip, namely the International Rectifier IR3595. The controller connects first to IR3599 doubler chips to each of the PWM phases.
Buildzoid goes deeper still examining every aspect of a PCB design that he describes as a Formula 1 race car grade graphics card. Seems like GALAX have indeed done a very fine job. Catch the full breakdown video here on the Actually Hardcore overclocking channel.
This week we recall a day back in August 2012 when Cam Wilmot from TweakTown paid a visit to GIGABYTE HQ to interview legendary Taiwanese overclocker Hicookie. The video he shot is well worth a look, taking place a few months after Intel’s Ivy Bridge series launched. Hicookie uses the newly arrived GIGABYTE Z77X-UP7 board to push a Core i7 3770K past the 7GHz threshold. One of the cool things about the video is that Hicookie manages to introduce the new OC-specific features of the new board, the VRM design, the LN2 Mode switch and more while at the same time pouring LN2 and answering questions. He really does make overclocking look so easy. Here’s what TweakTown published in August 2012:
Earlier on today we were invited to the GIGABYTE headquarters here in Taipei where we were told we would see the Taiwanese motherboard maker and its in-house professional overclocker HiCookie try to set a new world record for the Intel Core i7 3770K processor.
Overclocking was done on the upcoming GA-Z77X-UP7 motherboard that is due to be released this coming Monday - GIGABYTE at the time of writing were not prepared to comment on pricing as it is yet to be 100% confirmed. However, you can expect the price to be fairly high as this is a board designed for overclockers and it has plenty of top notch features to help overclockers around the world set new performance records. In the video above I mentioned that the Z77X-UP7 is much like a Formula One car in its design theory. Every little tweak has been included and high-end components such as 32 CPU phases are included to help set said new records.
|ASUS Republic of Gamers||18||119|
|ROG Czech OC Guys||11||10|
|PC Games Hardware||6||38|
Every month or so we have a look at how well the overclocking teams adopt Rookie and Novice overclockers at HWBOT. It comes to no one's suprise that Team Wccftech still holds the top position with 48 (!) rookies and 4 novices enrolled. Second on the list is /r/overclocking with 23 rookies and 76 novices and in third place (down from second last month) we find the ROG team an outstanding 18 rookies and impressive 119 novices in the team.
In the Rookie League, Sufferage from the Austria is leading with 383.00 points which is 84.2 points more than Prote1n (Cowcotland) from the France and 115.9 points more than Kava2126 (Overclock.net) from the United States.
Congratulations to all the overclocking teams adopting the new overclockers and of course the Rookies for their dedication to overclocking!
Today we are very pleased to to be able to confirm the prizes that we and our partners have lined up for the forthcoming HWBOT World Tour visit to Montreal next month. For the Montreal 2017 event partners Seasonic and Alphacool have agreed to contribute some awesome prizes for the Ambient Contest and the Overclocking World Championship contest, making things that bit more inciting and rewarding for attendees and competitors at the event. Intel have also agreed to contribute some hardware, including an upcoming Intel Core X-series chip.M
Montreal 2017 - Ambient Contest:
As we all know, each HWBOT World Tour involves Overclocking Workshops. Once the workshop session is complete, attendees will be given the chance to submit their best score to the OC-ESPORTS platform using PCs that we have set up at the show. Score as highly as possible and you could be one of four overclockers invited to compete in the Montreal 2017 Ambient contest on the last day. The following prizes will be available for the winners!
- 1st Place:
- Intel Core i7 7700K processor
- Seasonic Snow Silent 750 PSU
- Alphacool Eisbaer 420 AIO CPU Cooler
- 2nd Place:
- Seasonic Snow Silent 750 PSU
- Alphacool Eisbaer 420 AIO CPU Cooler
- 3rd Place:
- Seasonic Snow Silent 750 PSU
Read the full prize announcement for the Montreal 2017 event here on the HWBOT World Tour website.
It’s seems like quite a long time since there was a challenge to the No.1 spot in the HWBOT rankings that did not involve either Dancop (Germany) or Xtreme Addict (Poland). These two guys have pretty much dominated the top two spots for at least a few years, but as of today… there’s a change in the air. Yesterday afternoon, in the space of just a few minutes, Greek overclocker $@39@ launched the ultimate assault on the throne, submitting a massive seventeen scores that quite simply catapulted him to the pinnacle of world overclocking. In the League Rankings on HWBOT we now find $@39@ in first place with a total of 2,982.3 points, just ahead of Dancop on 2,956.5 points. Let’s a take a look at our new World No.1 and the hard work that has earned him his place in OC history.
Global & World Records Points - 1,570.9: Your points ranking on HWBOT is a combination of three elements. Firstly, let’s look at Global Points. These are the points earned through the possession of specific benchmark rankings, in particular Global World Record scores and Global First Place scores. Only the top fifteen of these actually contribute to your final score. $@39@ has only one World Record which is in the Unigine Heaven Xtreme benchmark. However he does hold an incredible ten Global First Placed scores, mostly involving GTX 1080 Ti cards in 3D benchmarks thanks to his recent work in this area. His Global & World Record Points haul currently stands at 1,570.9 points.
Hardware Points - 968.9: These involve record scores using specific hardware components and it’s an area where $@39@ is absolutely killing it. Your top twenty submissions in this category contribute to your overall score, and it the case of $@39@ , it’s actually a case of twenty Gold Cups in a row. This means he has the highest ranked score with twenty specific components; these include Core i5 2500K , Core i7 6700K and Core i7 7700K CPUs, plus Nvidia GTX 9800, GTX 580 and GTX 250 cards for example – all showing $@39@ knows his way around several generations of hardware. In terms of Hardware Points he has amassed an enormous 968.9 points.
OC-ESPORTS Points – 442: Finally we have points that have been earned using the competitive OC-EPSORTS platform. $@39@ has been an active overclocker in the Road to Pro Challenger Divisions and several other contests in the last year or so. He currently holds Gold Cups (each worth 50 points) for his contest wins in the Challenger Division I in 2016, plus Challenger Division IV and I in 2017. He also has walk away with the win in this year’s Pro OC Division in Round 2 and is current leader in Round 3. Did I mention he also pulled off a few runner up spots (or Silver Cups, worth 42 points each). These were in the Cheapaz Chips Season 1 contest and the recent GIGABYTE Beat the Heat contest. Nice work.
Total League Points - 2,982.3: The overall current standings in the HWBOT rankings table shows just four Extreme League overclockers in the top twenty, joined by 16 Elite League overclockers. Alongside $@39@, we also have Luumi (Finland), scannick (Italy) and Bullshooter (Germany). However to find an Extreme Overclocker in first place, although not entirely unprecedented, it is indeed a wholly remarkable and pretty amazing achievement. A massive congrats to $@39@, the current highest ranked overclocker on HWBOT. You can check out his scores, submissions and achievements here on his HWBOT profile page.
The all new (and thoroughly exciting) AMD Ryzen Threadripper platform launched just a week ago, giving HEDT processor users more options than they previously ever dreamed of. There’s been a deluge of great content from tech websites, reviewers and YouTubers, but for me one site that it’s simply knocking the ball out of the park is Gamers Nexus. Steve Burke and the gang have been delving deeper into the actual tech of AMD’s new platform than most sites. As well as a full review of the platform, they also took time to investigate the best way to apply thermal paste.
There are different ways to apply thermal paste to a CPU before mounting the cooler; small ball, long strips, crosses etc. We all have our personal favorite techniques that we tend to favor, but with Threadripper, we’re actually dealing with four CPU dies present under the IHS, of which only two are actually active. The larger surface area of the IHS is also something worth considering of course.
Using a test methodology pioneered by Roman ‘der8auer’ Hartung Steve Burke shows sets out six different paste application methods (including the method that AMD actually recommend) for prepping a Ryzen Threadripper 1950X processor. He shows you how the different methods spread under pressure using a plexiglass test, plus some real life testing with a closed loop cooler to see which method actually yields better thermal connectivity and efficiency in your rig.
You can find the full and detailed article from Gamers Nexus here, plus the accompanying video on their YouTube channel here. It’s interesting to see in fact, that the video is one of the most popular they have published this month. Who knew thermal pasting was such a popular thing?
AMD’s Ryzen Threadripper processors arrived officially on the scene at the back end of last week, shaking up the High-End Desktop segment that for so long has been the exclusive domain of Intel. Amongst all the media noise ASUS invited Elite Overclocker Neo Sibeko (South Africa) over to test drive the new platform using the latest ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard. Known to many as the chief editor of The Overclocker magazine, Neo made some very decent scores as part of his review article that will appear in the next edition of the magazine. In the end he managed to claim seven Hardware First Places (Cinebench R11.5, Cinebench R15, HWBOT Prime, x265 1080P, x265 4K, Geekbench3 -Multi and wPrime 1024M) plus a Global First Place ranked score for 16-core processor in the GPUPI for CPU 1B benchmark.
The benching session was of course centered on AMD’s new HEDT flagship, the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X, a 16-core / 32-thread monster of a processor that currently retails for reasonably competitive $999 USD. Here’s what ASUS had to say about the Overclocking session with The Overclocker in their coverage of the Threadripper launch:
Take Threadripper to the edge and beyond - Overclocking at the highest levels requires sub-zero cooling with exotic substances. Free pouring liquid nitrogen as smoke billows may not be practical for everyday desktops, but it helps us learn the limitations of the platform and how to get the most out of it. The Zenith Extreme is equipped with several enhancements for life on the ragged edge, including special operating modes for LN2 and multimeter probing points for voltage monitoring.
We’ve already used the board to push the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X to 5.37GHz across all 16 cores and 32 threads. That config was stable enough to generate an impressive Cinebench R15 score of 4514. As of August 10, the Zenith Extreme has claimed the top spot on the Threadripper leaderboards with Hardware First Place (HFP) scores across seven benchmarks and a Global First Place (GFP) in GPUPI for CPU -1B. All the scores are listed below along with links to the official submissions.
You can read more and find links to all the scores here on the ASUS ROG website.
When it comes to 3D overclocking you could argue Vice ‘K|ingp|n’ Lucido is virtually untouchable. Currently ranked as US No.1 and 5th Globally on HWBOT, Vince is of course also the man behind EVGA’s popular Kingpin Edition graphics cards. However people closer to the action at EVGA will also be aware of another very important EVGA employee, the one and only Illya “TiN” Tsemenko. This guy probably knows more about designing and modding Nvidia graphics cards than any other soul on the planet.
Something that TiN also gets a great deal of respect for, is his famous ‘Uncorking’ guides. For the last few Nvidia product cycles TiN has put together guides where he shares all of his expertise about graphics card prepping for extreme LN2 cooled overclocking. Today we bring your attention to the latest Uncorking guide which is centered on the newly arrived GTX 1080 Ti Kingpin Edition graphics card. Here’s a taste of what TiN has to say in the intro:
Overclocking/overvoltaging your EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti KINGPIN graphics card disregarding type of the cooling, is quite an adventure and safe for the hardware, as long as it’s done correctly. Always pay attention to details and fully research these topics before doing any VGA alterations.
Having patience and doing things in small steps is key. Testing after each and every modification will provide the best user experience while keeping your hardware safe and benching over and over again. Data provided in this guide was verified on multiple cards, but slight variations in numbers or results for KP 1080 Ti graphics adapters are still possible due to silicon variances in samples.
The Uncorking Guide is certainly not for the faint of heart. The level of detail involved is actually quite staggering and goes a long way to helping understand just how much work goes on in the EVGA labs when Vince is trying to break World Records. Find the guide here on XDevs.com.