Don't waste your time on 05 anymore... It has been ripped apart by all the software tweaks/hacks. This one will become completely bointless. No use to keep this as a guy on air with right software can outperform an ln2ed setup. Users need to learn that benchmark software needs to be run out of the box. Also spread the word: the users that have a cheatengine icon on their desktop will get hammered as well. Tired of this "trying to break a benchmark and finally spoil it for the others attitude".
Don't waste your time on 05 anymore... It has been ripped apart by all the software tweaks/hacks. This one will become completely bointless. No use to keep this as a guy on air with right software can outperform an ln2ed setup. Users need to learn that benchmark software needs to be run out of the box. Also spread the word: the users that have a cheatengine icon on their desktop will get hammered as well. Tired of this "trying to break a benchmark and finally spoil it for the others attitude".
Great !Finally we can then have a better understanding of what scores are valid ?
Don't waste your time on 05 anymore... It has been ripped apart by all the software tweaks/hacks. This one will become completely bointless. No use to keep this as a guy on air with right software can outperform an ln2ed setup. Users need to learn that benchmark software needs to be run out of the box. Also spread the word: the users that have a cheatengine icon on their desktop will get hammered as well. Tired of this "trying to break a benchmark and finally spoil it for the others attitude".
But is ram cache allowed? Pcm is supposed to measure the overall performance of a PC for actual tasks, or at least to the extent of when it launched, and ram cache is a daily viable tweak that can help actual storage work better. Just asking because it's allowed for other pcmarks but it's ambiguous for this one
That mention of being able to beat an LN2 score on air wasn't my GTX 465 submission from yesterday (https://hwbot.org/submission/4615275), was it? If it was, it was an honest mistake, as I was just banging through all the "common" 3D benchmarks while I had the card in the system. I did notice that there were some LN2 results farther down the list, behind other air/water cooled results. Or, scratch that... that was 3DMark05, not PCMark05 (unless there are also similar issues there).
Whats the difference for a ram disk and ramcache for the PCM program? you are not actually testing true storage like HDDs or SSDs...
So with ramdisk you store the whole program in a software ram drive and it will never hit ssd, you also cannot install an os to it which I think is why hardware ram drives like iram or acard are allowed. Ram cache is more of tiered storage, even with a large persistent cache it has to hit the ssd eventually. Ram cache is common software tweak irl because it let's you get improved performance for certain smaller files you'd hit often without the overhead of needing insane amounts of ram to store everything. Even amd uses this with their storeMI tiered storage for Am4. If this were an ssd bench I'd say ban ramcache, but it's a total system bench so it's about how fast your total system works together and how efficient the os is for "productivity and daily tasks" so I think ramcache fits that.
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Is ram cache allowed like in pcm 07? It's called out as distinct from ramdisk there but not mentioned here
Don't waste your time on 05 anymore... It has been ripped apart by all the software tweaks/hacks. This one will become completely bointless. No use to keep this as a guy on air with right software can outperform an ln2ed setup. Users need to learn that benchmark software needs to be run out of the box. Also spread the word: the users that have a cheatengine icon on their desktop will get hammered as well. Tired of this "trying to break a benchmark and finally spoil it for the others attitude".
Great !Finally we can then have a better understanding of what scores are valid ?
But is ram cache allowed? Pcm is supposed to measure the overall performance of a PC for actual tasks, or at least to the extent of when it launched, and ram cache is a daily viable tweak that can help actual storage work better. Just asking because it's allowed for other pcmarks but it's ambiguous for this one
That mention of being able to beat an LN2 score on air wasn't my GTX 465 submission from yesterday (https://hwbot.org/submission/4615275), was it? If it was, it was an honest mistake, as I was just banging through all the "common" 3D benchmarks while I had the card in the system. I did notice that there were some LN2 results farther down the list, behind other air/water cooled results. Or, scratch that... that was 3DMark05, not PCMark05 (unless there are also similar issues there).
Whats the difference for a ram disk and ramcache for the PCM program? you are not actually testing true storage like HDDs or SSDs...
So with ramdisk you store the whole program in a software ram drive and it will never hit ssd, you also cannot install an os to it which I think is why hardware ram drives like iram or acard are allowed. Ram cache is more of tiered storage, even with a large persistent cache it has to hit the ssd eventually. Ram cache is common software tweak irl because it let's you get improved performance for certain smaller files you'd hit often without the overhead of needing insane amounts of ram to store everything. Even amd uses this with their storeMI tiered storage for Am4. If this were an ssd bench I'd say ban ramcache, but it's a total system bench so it's about how fast your total system works together and how efficient the os is for "productivity and daily tasks" so I think ramcache fits that.
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