Dimastech System Files for Bankruptcy; Hearing on September 20, 2016
In a forum post, Head of Moderation Christian Ney has shared the news that Dimastech System is filing for bankruptcy. We know Dimastech from the benchtables and phase-change cooling systems. Recently Dimastech was in arms with some members of the community as a result of not delivering on purchases or promises.
Dimastech System filed for bankruptcy on May 10, 2016, and the hearing will proceed on September 20, 2016, at a court in Brescia, Italy.
We are reaching out to the authorities to find out more about the situation and to see if there is a way to for affected forum members to recover some of their losses. Dimastech System is a S.n.c (Società in nome collettivo), an Italian general partnership owned by two or more partners who have full, joint and unlimited liability for its debts and obligations. In practical terms this means the court may seize any personal assets (like a house) to pay off out-standing debt.
We will keep you updated on this matter.
Hey guys,
Just checking if anyone has heard from Dimas in a while ...
Quite a few people asked me if I heard about Dimastech lately, what happened?
I talked to Andrea like 2 weeks ago about an order I placed.
//edit: not my place to make suggestions
Can you be more specific ?
Last time talks with him in may this year , ordered 10 tables received all without any problem.
Glad I saw this thread. Was planning on ordering from his US facing store for an EasyXL table within next month. I see his/stores FB account is still regularly posting photos.
i order a cascade back in october, promised delivery in februar, payed 2000 eur up front, and 12 may promised cascaded or my money back in 10 day.. haven't got my money or cascade yet.. so dont pay him up front for you orders..
He supplied TeamGB with 8 test benches in April no problems at all. And I might add they were donated.
Heard about the cascade - and I have tried reaching out for Dimas in several ways, such as facebook, his page, Italian overclockers etc....
But he is really keeping quiet about this....
At one point I expect Dimas to read this thread, and my suggestion is clear; Finish what you started, don't be a scammer - you make quality products, if you are low on money, then say so, don't steal 2000 euro and pretend nothing has happend.
You are not alone Rusty
ordered one cascade in March payed 1000 euro up front. another 1000 euro when it was done.
He sad the build was clear in may and was ready for tuning. I asked for pics of it 2 weaks ago no reply since that mail( he was gonna send pics after business trip) . Asked then for weak ago if there was any problem with the cascade unit still waiting for reply....
So in total he have 3k euro total at least...
Got a felling that me and Rosty is not alone in this mess....
The dmg is done....
I hope this gonna be solved but the silence have made one thing clear for me, will never order a single thing from Dimastech ever again.....
Sorry to hear Pulse88
same story, he promised me picture when he started the build, haven't seen any picture, he just promised a lot of BS to now..
i send a PM on FB to HWbot when computex started about the problem, because it pissed me of to see all he's new product posted on FB, and sponsoring HWbot world tour, and so on...
Still its beyond my thinking why you sponsor Hwbot world tour and in the same time scamming hwbot benchers.....
God way of ending company business if scamming theory turn out to be true.
Maybe there is another reason why this have turned ugly for buyers....
Lets hope people with better contacts with the company find out what have happen. Dimastech is not a new company in the hardware business, So why start to behave like this suddenly to buyers.
Either way the communication is the worst i have encountered in my life buying pc related products and therefore no more Dimastech products for me ever again ....
Several hardware-related stores sell Dimastech stuff (caseking for example).
Maybe contact them and ask about some cooperation. They should have a way to contact him.
HWBOT should be able to do something too, since they had Dimastech as a sponsor for the World Tour.
Not sure what would be the response, but worth trying, I think.
Yesterday I linked to this thread on Dimas FB wall to get his attention, he has deleted the link today, and put a new image out of his products..
It's interesting, why he doesn't try to explain situation, because when you don't want to tell people what is really going on they start thinking that he is cheating with them. And this situation can destroy his reputation.
I was asked to let you guys know he will soon reply. He had to reset password and stuff
Good ,seems like it is some chance for this to be solved then
But Dimastech neads to improve their communication with people that do special orders like cascade. Especially when a pre pay are involved.
Better communication = This thread have never appeared = All involved would be happy
thanks L3p for the introduction, i had to resume an old account to reply there...
i'm Andrea Di Marco, here to speack for DimasTech.
i'd like to make clear 3 things before talking about the current problems:
1) DimasTech Systems is a company, all the things been said over there about me as a person, not have to be related to my name/nickname, as i'm just a worker for the company, i do have responsability but my own Name have not to be related to Company Related problems or facts.
2) DimasTech have been growing a lot since 10 years ago, when i started by my own only by doing phase change systems for PC as a HOBBY, now this part of the business is probably worth around the 0,5 to 1%, i sincerely wanted to keep this Phase Change for PC business going since we started from there, but today there's not enough request to make cost effective units and having a good marginality, this lead to long delays and long delivery time couse priority on this builds is very low, timing given to the customers could have been said better, this is an excuse, it's not good to deal like this, this should be imporved but very difficult to improve something that is not giving good return.
3) Facebook and Socials are not in my hands, i've a people handing this things, so he act to protect the page/socials integrity, it's clear that a customer saying questionable things could not stay in a front page, sincerely i'm not staying all day looking at FB posts, i do have some much more important things to do during the day...
to sum up everything:
Customers: i know things have not been going as forecasted, if you want the unit to be delivered the same, we can propose a price reduction to excuse the delay, i will book time for me and my co-worker on this builds to be started by end of week, if you don't want to go on, get in contact with our direct mailing, the same used in the mailing for orders /specs/etc...and ask for a full refund.
at this point, we just want an happy customer, even if without unit, but at least don't come to us asking for anything.
I want to make clear, that all units purchase will be have a regular agreement to be signed from the partys, until today we had acted with trust between customer and manifacturer, without any written agreement, that means that in any way, we or the customer, have the right to do this kind of things, and it's clear that a company reputation with over than 2k sales year, can not be deal like this for 2 on 2k event.
Press/Forums Admins/etc: DimasTech is a company on the business since 2005, we had been always growing and making better products couse of the customer feedback, we had been sponsoring several press / papers / website etc...i'm not expecting HWBOT to cover all of the problems we have, but at least we expect a mail before opening thread like this, problems between Customers and Manifacturer need to be deal by them, there's no need of external opinions or personal opionion of 3rd party not related to this things...so by my opinion, i was expecting something better from this Community Admins, since we're also an early sponsor of last events...before starting any thread like this, i could have been sending a tons of email...and last of all, it's not possible to say or sentence in a pubblic place, "DONT SEND MONEY UPFRONT", do you know that your words in this place are followed as RULE by other members?
All not related people: i'd like to say that this is a pubblic forum, where world can read, so your opinion over there, even if it is a questionnable opinion need to take care of facts, and you cannot act as Jury and Lawyer at same time, so before saying something, think about it...
thanks for your attention, hope my words here will not be edited...
Andrea Di Marco
Thread closed for now.
Re-opened the thread.
Please keep it civil and factual
Since there are US and EU websites, are the phases sold off the US site being made in the US or in italy where dimas main is located?
If they are not made at the same locations, do the problems affecting production for the phases mentioned here still carry over?
I kinda need a cascade and its cheaper on your site than the quote i received.
Dont wannna be a Jackass do you think it gonna be easier to get a cascade to us when they have prob to get cascade to eu guys in the fisrt place. Afterall they are making them in italy.
........
My advice to wait some more time....
/Pulse88
That's why he's asking if they are made in Italy or not as moving them across borders could potentially be the issue getting them to customers.
Buying DimasTech products in Australia is my life dream
Exactly, i got quoted 1600-2000 for one built locally and dropped off. And the guy is so busy with his actual job itd be a hell of a wait.
So 1500 for a top tier delivered isnt bad imo.
Us might not be as busy since they arent handling all the intl. Deals that the main would be.
After I read Andrea/Dimastech answers here and his proposal that we, costumers, can get full refund or he will get a co worker to help made the cascade, I asked for full refund, he'a answer was he had spent 1000eur already on the build, then his proposal was to finish cascade latest July 9, and he sent a picture of an empty cabinet and wrote he was already in progress, and if I went to public again he would contact his lawyer.
The last part i take my chance on hehe
July 11 I send mail , and he answer it's been too hot, 36-37 degrees in his shop, but he will complete cascade next day and test it, and contact to me, July 13th I send mail to get picture of cascade, no answer, and on July 16th, I ask for the money back, since it is summer and can be hot the next 3 months, and I do not want to wait more, still no answer from him.
i order the cascade 21 october and pay him 2000eur, promised 45-50 work day to do the order,that was in february, and after this thread i thought Dimastech was interest to deal with this problem and finish my order or refund, but its 9 month now, and still waiting...
buying a bench table that isnt $180AUD landed is my dream.
Actually what we need to do is have a company that rips off others designs, like Phoyba, to rip it off and make it in China.
Some time ago I ordered from Dimastech. Everything ok up to Chile, but Fedex ripped me off. Courier expenses were greater than what I ordered.
Regards
Rosty, hope that Carmine "The Roman" Falcone has either returned your money, or finished the cascade.
9 month when sub 2 month were promised, is unacceptable - and I strongly doubt that is legal in Italy.... In Denmark it sure isnt legal...
I think even if Silvio Berlusconi was his father in law, he could not make him win court of law on this one, just sayin'.
"If you tell anyone that I stole your money, I will find you, and I will kill you"
hehe nice one
Another 10 days since your post, any news on the cascade?
nope no news
wow, I'm really sorry for you. $2000 euros is a ton of money and that's really not fair to keep someone waiting like that. If you come on here and offer a solution of refunds and then dont refund someone is not cool. The company should be big enough going by there last reply that they could eat any money already spent to take care of a customer and to fulfill there responsibility.
I really hope you get your money back, if not we should all boycott until you do get it back.
Always wanted one of his/their bench tables since I first saw them probably back in ~'09(?) but shipping always stopped me til I saw their new US facing store a couple years ago. Now this thread made me hesistate.
Well found out my favorite online retailer Performance PCs carries them so finally ordered one last night and shipped this morning.
So guess he got my $$$ anyways!
At that point you just have to trust PPC's. I have an Easy V2.5 and I love it.
PPC is legit but I think boycotting dimastech seems like a proper option. Rosty wasn't the only person ripped off afterall, and in a community like this we should have each others' backs when the time comes. I mean so much is reliant on these "custom shops", and these people just go and take 2000euros... that's beyond acceptable. They do well enough to eat 2000euros if they have to. they obviously don't have his build progressed to the point they would even be taking much of a loss...
They still have cascades available to oprder on their website, though. I mean whats to say that someone else won't try and buy a cascade off them and get ripped off for another 2000euro. If dimastech had any sense of obligation to the customers they would atleast remove the product from their website, to prevent more orders of something they obviously can't fulfill...
Horrible thread, sorry for your loss
sagt:
I have also been a victim of this company.
September 2014 I ordered a single Phase change called Evo or something.
Lucky for me I paid with PayPal.
They promised a 20 days delivery time.
Three months later, after lies, lies, lies, I opened a case with PayPal.
They sent it over with UPS.
Nope. Defective. It would not even start.
They are so stupid that they forgot to advise PayPal that they delivered, so PayPal refunded me my money.
I could easily keep both the ss and the money.
Of course not.
They sent UPS to pick it up and send it back. 180 Euros transport fees.
Now reading this thread, I can understand why I went thru such an adventure.
They were insulted when I told them Italian Mafia.
I considered buying a cascade from them early this year. Got a quote that was like 50 % higher than what was listed on their website. No mention of long production time or any other problems...
Lucky I didn't order one!
If this were the USA, I guess we'd be looking in to a Class action law suit ... :-/
sagt:
Even if you believe so mister, this is not something that you can so boldly come out and say.
Very low taste and even lower manners.
I personally own and run a multi-billion dollars company.
I don't bow and take a blowj*b, every time someone throws $$$ to me.
I don't see how going with this into a court would not result in a win and moral prejudice being payed.This is some serious bad way to handle bussines and even more bad way to make customer support. Okay,for some reason you are unable to honor your order,you have to full refund the custome are maybe offer a promotional discount and apology,not to harras him on forums.Fucked up situation...
sagt:
+1 Alex.
Sick way of running a business ( a supposed business ).
I still have in a folder in my mailbox, 86 - yes 86 - mail messages that I exchanged with Dimastech during a three month period.
For a 700 euro single stage.
Plus countless hours of dealing with the case.
NO RESPECT.
No company, whatever the size, can survive long term, without respect to its customers.
I think it might be time to start some pages on other forums... Atleast as a warning. to someone who may potentially buy a phase through them.
or anything else really...
At this point I'd get some legal aide. I mean 2000E for one person 700 or so from another. They are a big company and they are borderline scamming people. There's gotta be something you can do.
Found this on their trademark info.
Owner
Owner: DimasTech Systems, Inc.
13939 NW 60th Aveneue
Miami lakes FL 33014
Legal Entity Type: Corporation
Correspondent/Attorney
Correspondent / Attorney: NIDIA PEREZ
NIDIA PEREZ, PLLC
1521 ALTON RD # 74
MIAMI BEACH, FL 33139-3301
That's the US company, they need the EU business info for the guys that got hosed on the phase change products.
About the only things you can get from the US site are bench tables and accessories.
sagt:
I think I have something Mike :
PayPal dispute: Item not received PP-003-388-574-617
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Dear Georgios Kokovinis,
You have opened a dispute for the payment you made to DimasTech Systems di alice ghioni & c. s.n.c. on Aug 17, 2014 (Transaction 9D105045F2341273K) indicating that you did not receive the item you purchased.
DimasTech Systems SNC
via dell'artigianato, 40
25039 Travagliato (Bs)
ITALY
P.IVA e Cod.Fisc. 03065680989
tel. +39 030 5231578
fax +39 030 8995115
Although it is not my place to say now what people should or should not do with their money, I would advise that handing any money over to dimastech would be foolish at this point.
Glad you got your money back georgios
sagt:
Thank you sir,
I always appreciate your kindness.
Hello Guys...
it is nice to hear good words about me and about my 10 year work for the OC community, it's always nice to be appreaciate by people, i just think that who is related to company/my problem...have to talk, all the other people, have nothing to do with this have to simply close the "flow of mouth" since i've beeing always honest with everybody around here...
as i already said, i understand problems happen couse of bad handling of things and since i dont' want to go on with this thread, and continuing hearing about bad words about me and my business, i will just refund that Danish Guy, at the end, i dont' really care about undervaluating my work, offering discount and other thing to a people that already offended and for sure doesn't really care about the background of how hard were to get there...
about the "SUPER SKILLED" George kokovinis, the whole story for sure it's quite funny, we had the lates delivery, not good but you had the unit, that's ok...but that guy where not skilled enough for this kind of systems, and even not PATIENT to fix a not working connection on the PSU pwon connector, everybody knows that during a shipment something can happen, couse it's not a simply, stick and go...so please...if you want to report your experience, report all...not just what you like to say...
we had the unit back at our expense, without the pallet, totally ruined and destroyed...and we were risking of not having a single EURO paid.
in italy we have a common phrase that say: " if the fox cannot get to the grapes, simply say that the grapes were not good"
probably it's a worldwide know common sense phrase...
once again, our address stated for US and ITALY are right...
we're here and we will continue doing our best to serve customers, we know, sometime we fault in handling customer satisfaction but if we're here today it's couse of GOOD PRODUCTS and customer feedback/satisfaction, so if somebody over here, thinks we don't care about our customers, it's totally wrong.
as told to the other guy wanting the Cascade (ISAK), we will suspend any phase change activity related to OC since it was simply something i wanted to keep alife couse of the Passionate people that were wanting to use this systems for their OC works, this activity were mostly like an HOBBY for me, as it's not possible to survive just with very small niche...when we will have a commercial product, like the other we already developed, with manuals and all the other related things, we will think about starting again selling phase change systems for OC.
http://shop.dimastech.it/en/dimastech-rotary-phase-change-systems
http://shop.dimastech.it/en/dimastech-phase-change-systems
http://shop.dimastech.it/en/dimastech-phase-change-cascade-systems
all products set to "out of production" so we will take no orders on this products, this to prove that we will not take any other order on this kind of jobs, even if them were 2-3 piece per year.
with this move, we will take care of our REAL work products, that keep the company alife, i found very bad ruining our good name with this stories about phase change, so let's close them...
sagt:
We do not like ironies and personal attacks here.
Facts speak of themselves.
Shouting at us, only digs your grave deeper.
you don't like personal attack, and what we're on now? by people not related to the whole story...
i'm not talking to other, i'm just talking about your experience, and about other...if i'd like to be judged for what i do and i've done like a real Judgement, only witnesses have to talk...here, the experience you're reporting is reported in not the right way...that's it.
in any way, papers are on the table, i don't need to reply anymore to your words, since our deal had been closed since a year.
When do you refund my money ? the 27 of may was the first time you promised me that, i haven't seen the money yet ?
after the 27 of may i mail you about that i dont have the money, then you mail that now its all fixe, that was 3 of june..
Again I can only judge on what those in this thread has said but stepping out of the phase change business seems smart here.
If you can not deliver the products that you promised on time or at least within a decent time frame of order then you have no business to begin with. Number one rule of business in my industry is that you have to keep the customers happy no matter what, if you do that then you have won half the battle already and are more likely to have them return and talk positively about you.
Here you haven't managed that and I would think it wise to reduce the damage done here by stopping all future orders as you have already done and just bite the bullet and refund those that have yet to see their products.
According to this thread, your account just got boosted today, can you please confirm that DimasTech returned the long-lost money?
All the affected parties are in this thread, why don't you all let them conclude their business and bud out...
Because drama!!!
No complaint here, just an FYI for anyone ordering a Dimastech Benchtable from Performance PC's and wasn't previously aware, PPCS does not carry stock but drop ships from Dimastech.
Isn't PPC's in Florida too?
no i dont have the money refund... just something he write her.. so im still waiting.. and no answer on mail
and still no hearing from Dimastech aka. Andrea, and i have not get my money back, and he's not answer mail.. so nothing changes since this thread started, just a lot of BS from Andrea here, like the 10 month of mail with him..
Just an FYI, it seems that Dimastech has ceased operations in the US. They are, however, still running their US Online Store and will honor any pricing (including shipping rates) if ordered from there, though the product will actually ship from Italy.
(according to online support)
Can somewhat confirm this as it aligns with my the process I went through on the order that I placed via Performance PCs. PPCs was drop shipping my bench table which unfortunately aligned up a few days prior to Dimastech closing for 10days for repairs, service or something. After speaking with both PPCs and Dimastech support, I was provided a tracking number and indeed was dispatched from Italy.
To clarify, I am NOT bad mouthing either of the retailers here, just an update for potentially others as I just wen through the process. And both sides of support were quick and very helpful.
PPCs support also informed other customers were having same issues and one can now assume it is due to the States facing store transitioning.
I'm just glad I was able to finally get me a bench table after years of not being able to due to shipping costs :banana:
I was looking into snagging an Easy 3.0 to replace my 2.5. I'm going to hold off for a bit though... with the extra Paypal/CC fees and shipping it ended up being $230 or so, IIRC.
Still no?
He posted 3rd August 2015 that he would refund, as much as it echoes, it should be in order now, right?
14th September
No i have not got my money refund, he dont answer mail....
sagt:
bah.......Andrea ma che mi combini???
bah......Andrea, what are you doing???
i remember the first time that i met you Andrea(2005), and you told me something about another phasechange's manufactor on XtremeSystem that was stealing money from the customers(he took money without send nothing)....and i remember your disagreement about that!!!!
Now you are doing the same.........when i've sold your phasechange, that you've sold me for 3/4HP, i had complaint from the customer because inside the phasechange there was a 1/3HP instead 3/4HP !!!!!
i'm sorry for you guys, ......for the other, give a look at your phasechange compressor!!!!
It was LukeXE... from Poland... I guess, or maybe he was talking about some other guy.
sagt:
i don't remember bro....that happend almost 10years ago.
i really liked xxbassplayerxx's bench table and was about to look in to one .. but i have enough drama thank you. :> good luck.
sagt:
When I was F*cked by Dimas-shit, PayPal made a mistake and let me have both the money and the garbage unit.
If I had known all these, I would have kept both and do a member here a favor.
Instead I was gentleman enough to return the garbage.
One way to fight thieves.
BE WORSE THAN THEM
So I tried to take advantage of their November "free shipping" promotion. I ordered 2 bench tables, paid via PayPal on November 8th and still don't have a package or even a tracking number. Emails are going unanswered so I filed a claim with PayPal.
Nov. 8th placed the order, had inventory issues with what I ordered, got that "sorted" on 11/10
Nov. 17th I received a "should be shipping today" email
Nov. 17th receive a shipping tracking number for a package that was delivered earlier in August to someone else, and has since quit working.
Nov. 19th I emailed them saying the tracking number/link was not working, no response.
Nov. 23rd I emailed them again saying the tracking number/link was not working, no response.
Nov. 24th I filed a dispute at PayPal for non-receipt of the product.
Nov. 30th I emailed them again saying the tracking number/link was not working, no response.
sagt:
I think that dimastech, alias Andrea Di Marco, needs and highlight post on the News of this site, because he keeps stealing money!!!!
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Ugh I ordered one around the same time you did....
They gave me a discount and offered a free shirt, probably just icing on the cake to make me order it faster so they could get $$ lol
Did you get a working tracking number?
It's starting to look like the November promo was just a cash grab with no intention of shipping any products.
Didn't get a tracking # at all, thought maybe because they gave me a discount that they didn't pay for tracking.
I emailed them, asked for tracking # OR picture of shipping invoice.
So not only are they not shipping the phase units now, they're not even bothering to send the bench tables either...
Piss poor service, will recommend all to avoid them from now on.
Well I guess the Easy V3.0 that I got from OCUK today is the last bench table I'm buying from them. Who else makes good bench tables that I can buy in the UK without paying way too much for shipping?
To my knowledge Rosty did receive his refund, just noticed it wasnt in the thread.
Sorry for the rest of ya's experience, but I will back off from the drama, however personally I'd never ever dream of ordering from Dimastech.
Best wishes for everyone to get their money back or products, hope Dimastech will either shut down or handle their customers with more respect in future - this really should not have happend.
Why would they be scamming people with a Verified PP address / account that was verified like 3 years ago?
If we get refunds through PP, they don't even get to keep the money as PP will just remove it from their acc / bank account. Pretty sure PP will even go after them legally if they scam enough people and PP has to do a lot of refunding / etc.
I really hope this is just a big misunderstanding and @Gunslinger and I get what we paid for!
I have receive 1200 eur of my 2000 eur, and he promised me the last 800 eur in end of October, I dont have got the last 800 eur yet.. I mail and he answer 9 November that he hope to solve the problem in 10 days, havn't heard from him since..
Damn
Sorry, thought it was cleared.
This is all a shame. I was lucky enough to receive mine but that was ordered via PPCS and it's great build quality. Sucks that such good products and craftsmanship is being wasted by piss poor management and service.
Not sure if it is something to note but I actually received some prompt response from their customer service team when I sent an email via their template regarding some watercooling configurations. And I was actually going to order a couple accessories for my table due to their suggestions but via PPCS.
Anyone have any idea if retailers of their products keep accessory inventory? Or is everything from Dimastech dropped shipped no matter retailer?
No one in the US stocks their bench tables besides PPCs and they're all out of stock. They had their own storage facility in Florida and would just drop ship for retailers. They've closed down this operation though
I ordered an easy v3.0 on Nov 27th through dimastechusa.com So far all I have received was an order confirmation email showing the status to be in "verification". Hmmm, sure wish I would have seen this thread before today. Keeping my fingers crossed I actually get my bench vs having to deal with paypal dispute.
I'd send an email! Lays just got a response on his. Apparently they had some manufacturing issues and expect to ship by the end of the week.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. It said on the website 5 business days to fulfill an order. So if I don't have a working tracking number by friday or monday I'll contact them.
Microcool has several on offer from basic to ultra luxurious, Cooler Master has one,...
I for one will also be avoiding Dimastech after this...joke of a company personally
Does anyone else make a tech station with a press on it? I need some way to mount my pot on Z97X-SOC Force LN2.
What I don't get is even after all the bad press, you guys still ordered stuff and sent them money.
Oy.....
I paid via PayPal so there's basically zero risk of getting ripped off, worst case is I live with out the cash for the time it takes to process the claim. Best case is that I get what I ordered to begin with. :celebration:
I didn't see this thread until after I had placed my order. I was totally unaware of the issues with dimastech.
sagt:
Yeap....^^^^ +1000:)
It has been a year that they are broke.
LOL i guess someone needs to start making bench tables. i'd buy some. I don't like caselab's atx trays, just cuz they are expensive for what they are IMO. http://www.performance-pcs.com/caselabs-tech-station-atx-form-factor-hex-mesh-backplate.html http://www.performance-pcs.com/caselabs-tech-station-xl-atx-form-factor-hex-mesh.html
http://www.caselabs-store.com/atx-motherboard-trays-pricing-varies/
and their bench is 250 I guess thats not too bad compared to dimas
Looks like Dimastech finally responded to the PayPal claim.
-$289.78 USD
11/8/2015 10:40 CST
DimasTech Systems, INC.
payments@dimastechusa.com
TNT express tracking # 823675189
Which appears to be either bogus or just a wrong number, I get "not found" every time I enter it.
I started a dispute, will see what happens.
I received a tracking number from tnt today. Mine is working, shows destination correct. I checked yours and its also working now.
sagt:
So now is possible order 1 or more cascade???? Ahah
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No you dont.
just place the F1 on the board, job done.
no problems with my ln2 board and venom pot.
Any idea how much the venom weighs compared to the old F1EE? I'm afraid to knock it over lol
Frozen TIM is like glue
once you go to -20°C or lower it should stick pretty well.
It weighs less, but not significantly so I dont think.
Just dont knock it over then.
new ln2 board has mounts so all good there.
http://shop.dimastech.it/en/dimastech-celebrating-10-years ^^
sagt:
Wow Pieter,
I was about to post the same thing.
And with small print letters " huge discounts "
LMAO:banana::nana:
My guess it is with 10 years delivery time. After a year they will pay back your money if ever....
You as buyer are there *loans* as it is now. Dimas have likly some economic problems...
I for one can not se any other explanation of ther behavior latly to the buyers.
Sad to se more are affected then me and Rosty.
They have not payed back me 1k Euro think Rosty Still have not got all hes money either after a half year of waiting.
So my advice dont ever buy from Dimastech.
I have email konversation over the whole year saved that are horrible to read. I may use it later if this is not get solved in the right way.
I think Hwbot members must be warn in other way then this thread. Not evryone reads in this part of forum or on forum at all.
Ok so I started a dispute tuesday, they haven't responded to it.
I sent them another email saying what's the deal etc.
Here is my email:
Hi, just contacting again to see where my tracking number is, you said last week I'd have it by the end of the week, and now it's almost the end of this week. I've also started a PayPal dispute since you guys haven't responded in over a week after telling me I'd get my tracking number over a week ago. I'd either like my tracking number, or a refund & a cancellation of my order please.
Here is their response:
Hello, thanks for your mail, we're solving all issues during today, thanks
Michele Ferrari
Sales / Customer Care
sagt:
Maybe a warning on the front page of HWBOT ?
That chick needs to be fired, she's as worthless as tits on a boar.
sagt:
I have already said the same! But i think that hwbot are afraid to get a law report from Dimas......i guess.....
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sagt:
It is not the chick at fault Mike.
I know first hand, that mother company in Italy is broke.
sagt:
Your guess is correct.
On the other hand, HWBOT does not want ( and maybe correctly ) to get
involved in transactions between members and companies.
BUT, if there is a will, there is always a way to avoid legal reports.
For example :
" The Administration of this site has been informed by its members that
a specific vendor is not complying with his financial obligations to its customers. Please visit the forums for more info "
But it is up to HWBOT to alert the members.
We have our own "situation" with DimasTech, so making noise might cause legal problems. There's also no real confirmation something is wrong, except for the many bad user experiences.
Feel free to spread the word and refer people to the thread. I'll consider putting a news up, but I don't want to cause any legal problems ...
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She is the customer service rep who ignores all the emails being sent that ask "where is my order?" "what is the status of my order?"
sagt:
Either she is an as*, or has orders to do so
OR BOTH.
I don't understand how 2 of you managed to get tracking numbers but I'm still getting the run around.
They haven't even responded to my PayPal dispute for God sakes!
I'm curious what if those guys who already received tracking numbers will receive some fake stuff, instead of something that you ordered stone for example. What will you action be after that? Is it possible to claim if order has been paid via PayPal?
We can just say they sent us wrong item + pictures probably, should be fine.
If enough people are saying they're having problems with Dimas, they shouldn't have an issue refunding us.
I am getting ready to escalate my dispute on PayPal to a Claim, so that PayPal will take care of it instead of me having to deal with it.
i still wating for my 800eur from my order in october 2014, an order i never got
sagt:
Folks,
I really wonder why you do not sue them.
Do you have any idea what they will finally pay if you take legal action ?
More than 5000 Euros.
And they will lose their credit line, if they have any.
My order from dimastech arrived today. Everything was correct, bench looks good. Really sucks that some of you other guys are having major issues. Maybe I should go buy a lottery ticket while I am having such good luck.
wtffffffffff
Not fair.... They still haven't done crap for me.. I just keep getting the run around, no reply to my PayPal dispute either. I'm going to email once more and if I don't get tracking number I'll escalate to a claim with PayPal.
Escalate now, worry later.
I sent em the last email on paypal & their normal email, if they don't respond by tomorrow it's getting escalated then I'll just let paypal deal with it.
It would be nice to get my money back yes, but i'd much rather have my dam test bench -.-
I can't find anything similar to it that I like for a reasonable price, they're the only ones
Hey! I got a tracking number!!
It doesn't work yet, but we're making progress
now time to fill out that paypal dispute.
Finally got my stuff @zeropluszero @Gunslinger
Great to hear.
Good to hear. Really diggin the color scheme
Sorry if some take this as totally uncalled for...
But really sad thread, quality products, dedication, and then turning into a criminal scumbag over peanuts - what a waste of carbon.
I ended up winning my PayPal dispute because they never did respond. About 1 week after I received my refund, the order showed up at my door.
They then became very busy on email, forum PM's and my cell phone to get their money back.
I let them sweat it out in silence for a few of weeks as payback for the crap customer service, then repaid the invoice last week.
I don't think you should have bothered.
I'm waiting for my last 800 Eur i was promised to get back in december, 800 Eur of 2000 Eur i paid for 1 year 3 month ago, for a product i never got.. and Dimastech just go silent again
Should have just had @Gunslinger send you his money and skip Dimastech altogether lol
sagt:
Mike's ( Gunny ) funds might have bot been enough.
Many pages back I said my story with "Dimas".
Should have kept the SS and the money ( 700 Euros ).
Then we would all be fine
:banana::banana::banana:
I wouldn't cop to that... I mean you sent the one back cuz the power cable was loose didn't you? Didn't even boyher to do a quick diagnostic. I order custom hardware from europe before, its not surprising for a cable to get knocked loose
sagt:
Don't know if you are ref to me, but that was certainly not the reason.
If it is not me, apologies:celebration:
for 2K euro i'd have flown to the factory and busted some heads I think.
Still waiting for my 1000 euro... For a cascade build.
Nearly a year ago since i paid them. And no money back yet....
Sorry, my mistake I remembered that happening to someone and was thinking about it recently
sagt:
Cool, no problem buddy.
Still waiting for my 800 EUR and still no respons from dimastech on mail... But dimastech still going "strong" on webshop and so on....
We can all leave negative reviews on facebook page for this matter... Ut's incredible what happens here and everyone is so silent about...
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It will be deleted, he has time for removing such, but no time to refund.
Thief - no other description matches.
What would work, would be contacting his business partners, however, I am not personally involved in this financially, so I will not be the one to do such.
NB: Since this thread was started, I changed my signature, I bet if more active forum users does so, it will impact his business.
Wish me luck... I just ordered a v3.0 to replace my 2.5
I wish I didn't love my 2.5 so much. I hate giving them my business
Fortunately, I'm pretty well protected with Paypal.
Did you order direct or via PPCS (or other vendor)?
It took a little time for mine but just a couple emails via their website and I got it without issue. I ordered mine riiiiight before all this was coming out. I would like to think they really are trying but think the upfront capital needed for some of these phase units is too much to handle for them right now. The benchtables and other accessories shouldn't be as much of a burden.
Make sure to keep us updated.
I ordered on their US site. Spoke to the Skype support line yesterday and she said the order was received and it should ship today or Monday.
Hope that's true
Did you get a tracking number yet bassplayer?
I was told that it shipped today and I should have tracking this evening or tomorrow. Last week they told me it would ship Friday or Monday...
We'll see I guess.......
Turns out it didn't ship yesterday.
I opted for the XL but I really did just want the v3.0, despite the "upgrade" aspects of the XL. It's 50mm deeper than the v3.0 (just under 2"), so not much larger. Width and height are the same.
Unfortunately I love the white color on the bench, otherwise I would have gone for one of the other colors on the 3.0.
Yeah, they played that game with my original order as well. :banana::banana::banana::banana:'ers
I WANT TO GET OFF MR. BONES WILD RIDE!
sagt:
So it was meant to ship, but they've said there's now an issue with the order? Seems like a classic Dimas.
I hope that you actually get your order.
We'll see what ends up happening. I'll open a Paypal dispute before their window closes. Like 45 days after transaction or something?
I wish Pulse and Rosty luck in getting their money back. Until someone else comes and starts releasing decent bench tables, I'll continue to play the low-risk Dimas game. No way I'd send them money for a phase unit though.
sagt:
Correct, you've got 45 days after the transaction. I wouldn't leave it too late though.
FYI all, get your requests in:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1595592/a-plea-to-caselabs/
I ordered a Dimastech bench on 2/28 although it was Go-Stock. They didn't have what was listed on the site (color, etc) so it took a while to get that sorted out. Finally on 3/7 we resolved that. Checked back in on 3/14 and they said it should pack tomorrow. Then on 3/23 I check back in and they said the ship company drivers were on strike, hopefully tomorrow. I paid with PayPal but I just want my bench!
Also, I believe you have 180 days to open a PayPal dispute.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy. You all have seen the threads and heard the stories, yet you continue to support a company that obviously is on the take and doesn't give a crap about any customer anywhere. I don't care how good the product may be, you can't support a company like that. It's just stupid.
You talking to me or chartiet? I couldn't care less for sympathy and it looks like he just found out that this has been an ongoing issue. I'm taking a calculated risk and can afford to have $220 tied up for a few months. It's not like there are any decent alternatives right now anyway.
Just make your own:
100% modular
Officially hwbot approved
Jajaja Arte Attack
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While I love the creativity, my spouse would kill me for something like that in the living room o_O
My 1k euro have been tied up in 1 year. NO UNIT NO REFUND yet. Even if you dont care a shit, some of us do ,that have been tricked by Dimastech.
Think its not helping other Hwbot members to make this thread a trade thread for dimastech when the reason for this thread was severe problems between Users,hwbotstaff to the (Theif) company Dimastech.
Think i may post some emails between me and the company, then some of you wont spend a dime to this company ever.
Think its time we start helping fellow Hwbot members to understand this company is not to be trusted in any way....
God knows have many people that have been tricked of this company it is `many` more than me Rosty or George... Thats for sure.
I am not trying to point out some of you but it is sad that some of you may be tricked or take the chance to be tricked even now after the whole circus around Dimastech in year 2015.
Not making it a trade thread at all... nothing I have said about Dimas has been good besides the fact that I hate that there isn't anyone else in the market. Hell, look at the thread I made over at OCN begging CaseLabs to start making tech benches because Dimas is so terrible to work with.
Even though I purchased a bench from Dimas, my updates in this thread have said nothing but they are making me jump through hoops to get a bench that isn't even what I wanted in the first place. They're running their business poorly and this thread clearly shows that.
Like I mentioned earlier, I really hope you can get your money from them. Hopefully some of the money I gave them will end up going to you. By this point though, and if you haven't already, involving a lawyer might be the best step.
sagt:
Folks and friends,
I will chime in with the knowledge I have acquired in my 56 years of life.
Please excuse the tough words.
For 1000 Euros it is not worth hiring any lawyer. It will cost you more.
Simple practice. When any given company, proves repeatedly that the level
of servicing its customers is a lot inferior to the minimum acceptable, then it
is a HUGE mistake to continue giving even 1$ to this company.
Alternative or no alternative, the sooner any sick company stops its poor operations, the less the potential NEW victims will be.
We are not discussing a product or products.
We are talking about stolen money.
Either we operate as a community with common interests ( and I do not mean only financial interests ), or as plain individuals.
TBH, I prefer our community to be joined and operate as a strong fist,
reacting positively or negatively according to the outside inputs it receives.
Then and only then, we will be able to really raise our voice to any direction and demand the obvious-
Justice
Is there anything similar to small claims court for Europe? In the US, that would be perfect for this situation.
Agree
To go lawsuit is always a lose situation for the one that is tricked. Either you lose and then it is 2-20k euro lost in best case, or you win you get 1k euro but have to spend alot of time worth way more then 1k euro in the first place for most people.
Dimastech knows this, thats what make me so fucking mad. THEY DONT CARE A SHIT AND STILL THEY TRICK GOD PEOPLE!
So what George say is somthing HWbot nead to take in consideration to get stronger against companies that trick people in the community.
One law in this world is that one person is weak many is way more stronger lets go for the better choise for this community!
sagt:
Without being a law expert, no, there is not.
The court in Us and europe is not the same. Here in Europe it is either expensive or were expensive. The one with biggest money wins sadly in most cases.
That seems to be true in most large cases here in the US but we also have small claims court where you file for ~$100, represent yourself most often, and usually win if you are truly "correct" which, in this case, Dimas is not. Shame the EU doesn't have something like that...
I literally found out about how shady Dimastech was after xxxBass posted on OCN with a link to here. I have been eyeing a Dimas bench for so long and had no clue. Finally pulled the trigger on their site with PayPal, then the soap opera unfolded and my suspicions arose. Then I found the threads... sad panda I am.
How long do I hold out until I say f it, I want a refund or PayPal dispute? I ordered on 2/28 I think.
In Australia you just go to the ACCC and they deal with it because in Australia consumers actually have rights so it's no civil matter
I poop you not, I got an email from TNT Global Express Spa informing me that their client (Dimastech) has recorded as shipment for me. LOL.
Somewhat OT but anyone know who may be selling accessories for the bench tables? I see PPCS is out of stock of a lot and imagine things as HDD brackets don't need to be shipped from Dimastech warehouse
I'll probably have my 2.5 up for sale soon... has accessories included
It is being a d*ck....
Atleast in my opinion.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
Paypal has fucked over thousands of people and is a piece of shit company. Do you still use them?
Open BenchTable
Looks nice for travelling, but a few concerns/questions do come up...
- How well is the power supply going to breathe with what looks like a rather small gap under it?
- This only seems to fit ATX sized motherboards. Where is the mATX and mITX support?
- Will there be other colours available?
- What material is used for the construction other than "metal"?
- 3D guys will want to know if it's possible to fit two 1200+ watt power supplies in there
- Why is there only support for two drives?
- Will there be (for lack of better words) an add-on to support watercooling?
For a setup where you're travelling light (say, perhaps, taking gear with you on the plane) I can definitely see a lot of promise in this build, but... Not everyone packs light, and a wide variety of people want to be able to set up their gear on a good looking station that's permanently set up in their space, and sometimes spousal acceptance factor comes heavily into play due to it being in the living room or such. Also, a few of the questions are because of the fact that this looks aimed primarily at subzero benchers, but we still have a LARGE group of benchers that use various ambient cooling methods.
Wulfe, where did you get your information? Looking at the photos, it looks like the table doesn't "support anything". It is literally a motherboard tray that "folds" up to be the size of a small plate. Looking at the images, it seems to be aluminum, but not sure. mITX and mATX use the same mounting holes as ATX, just fewer of them.
This looks like it's meant to replace a Dimastech Hard bench. This isn't really geared towards replacing a 24/7 rig/bench (although I'm sure some people will do that.
Some of it is guessing based off of the pictures posted to their Facebook.
^Shows details of how the PSU mounts, looks like it can be either side
^Shows how the hard drives mount, and that there's two slots
^Shows the mounting holes
^Parts storage is a rather unique idea though
^Makes it look like a dual PSU set up isn't going to be all that easy
Once again, just guesses based upon what can be seen in currently released photographs.
Gotcha. I didn't realize that the PSU screwed into the legs. It looks like this will be good for competitions and traveling but not quite a 24/7 bench setup if you like to keep things organized.
The motherboard compatibility shouldn't be an issue though, since mITX and mATX use the same mounting as ATX.
The original bench table....
Its called table, totally open source
Finally got the bench. They overnighted it from Italy. Needless to say I have some gripes (broken and multi color gold and pink thumbscrews) but its all there for the most part. They forgot my 2nd flex fan as well. It was go-stock clearance ($103 + $40 ship) so I had to pick and choose from available colors. Went with black body with white tray. Apparently the go-stock powder coat isn't perfect but I cant tell yet. I don't know if I'm happy yet to be honest lol. Check out pics here if you like.
Not bad. My screws were also different colors (green vs pink) and had a rivet sheared off during shipping. Small issues but be glad that you finally got one
sagt:
THE post of the year. Ahahahahahaha...
My stomach is paining from laughing.
Bless you my friend.
:celebration:
Well, they have to either send me my other $12 flex fan (which I prefer) or refund me. So if they are sending me another boix, they might as well include some freakin normal colored hardware lol. I like hot pink but not in this sitch
Yeah. Knowing me, I'd pick up one as it travels light and just seems to make sense. It isn't like I bother to use more than one power supply right now anyways, given my focus on 2D
Looks like I might have "no choice" but to go with that idea I've been discussing with you for the 24/7 setup in my living room, although when I'm done with it it won't be white anymore (because black and orange are just so much sexier to me
)
you can discuss the open benchtable here
Update on my table. Tracking is working now. Even though they confirmed that it was definitely-no-we're-not-lying-but-we-really-are picked up on 3/25, it was picked up yesterday (3/30). Fortunately, it's an express shipment and TNT is predicting delivery tomorrow (4/1).
If they would just ship their stuff when the order is placed they would save quite a bit of money on shipping on the end user would get the table at the same time.
I wonder what happened to them; they used to be such a good company. How do they benefit from waiting two weeks to ship something? Is their stock wrong on the site? Are they making items to order? Why not be honest and upfront with the customer... it's not like anyone would be upset about waiting a few weeks for a custom bench table. It's just weird that the motive is so convoluted.
Hey @Trouffman, you should try to get an interview with them. Ask them the hard questions and bring some publicity to the fact that they're still holding thousands of euros from benchers.
Hello friends and ex-friends,
The thousands are 1800 eur in all, they will go back to the 2 people involved in next days, about the stock we're trying our best to solve all the problems.
Please take care that I'm not putting me behind a finger, we have problems but we can solve them,only matter is the time.
If somebody from the community want to have an interview with me about actual situation,future plans and my point of view on events.please get in contact with me, I do not have nothing to hide.
Wish the best for all,friends, ex-friends,haters etc etc
Andrea
cool story bro
seemslegit/10
My bench arrived today... Will update with condition, etc.
1st April....
The thief returning money to his victims... Aprils fool.
Photos and videos later but I'm not exactly please with its arrival condition. Nearly all of the interior hardware had come loose, leading to the HDD drives bouncing around and scratching the interior. Two of the screws that hold the bottom shelf sheared off completely. I was lucky to be able to get them out with pliers. The bottom tray was also bent, though I was able to bend it back--same for the PSU mount. More details later.
I dont have recieved my 800 EUR yet
I guess it's still avoid Dimas at all costs
Yes.. I still dont have the money, not so funny aprils fool he made there.
Sadly not surprised.
They also haven't responded to my emails asking for some sort of compensation for the broken parts on my bench.
Andrea was clearly serious when he said he was working to fix things. Since various components on my bench arrived damaged, they have ignored my emails for over two weeks asking for a resolution.
I want to clarify that I am not looking for your sympathy or anything along those lines. Just sharing my experience and letting everyone know that it's still the typical process to get the runaround from Dimastech.
A few things are obvious... this packaging is not rugged enough for international shipment. Also, having owned the v2.5, somewhere along the way they switched to MUCH cheaper, weaker hardware. Each individual screw must weigh half as much as the old ones. I believe they used to be brass? Now they look and feel like pot metal. Absolute junk--no wonder they backed out and sheared off.
Carnage:
more Dimastech fail...
Exact thing happened on mine. Just took it as one of the smaller problems that could have happened especially considering what we are seeing now.
This should be DimasTheft
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Ya mine broke off into the gpu bracket, ruined the thread on the bracket. But its the only trouble I have had with mine
I got lucky and was able to back the nubs out with pliers. Crazy how junky this new hardware is though.
Wouldn't do much. BBB is a private organization and they're an international company. I could always start a PayPal dispute and may do so if they don't get back to me before my Buyer Protection runs out.
You might as well start the dispute now, they didn't answer any of my questions until they noticed that PayPal had refunded my payment.
Then it was amazing how communicative they were, I even got a call from the bossman himself on my cell phone. He might have even mentioned legal action, which I laughed at him over the phone about. The guy has no conscience I swear. :nana::nana::nana::nana: Dimastech
Glad I got rid of all those shitty bench tables and own nothing from this thief.
Feel bad for all the people who have their money tied up with this clown, hopefully Paypal or credit card chargeback works out.
I really feel bad for people who lost money, but the whole situation is so perplexing.
I mean according too most people they had such a great reputation and relationship with hwbot and overclockers. I would imagine the bad press from this has cost more money then was gained by the money taken. it just seems so weird. Or maybe everyone missing something hasnt posted here yet.
I think he's just a grifter
I'm still waiting for my money Mr. Andrea....?
Thanks for the reminder. Dimas still has not responded to my emails.
sagt:
So sad hearing stuff like this,really dislike the part were the seller isn't responding
sagt:
Then he should have said something, and he should have ceased trading a long time ago.
There is a karma after all
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sagt:
From personal experience Mr.Horse, I can reassure you, that no one cares
about the status of your health, or even if you are alive or dead.
These are issues important to the family and close friends of the sick person ( like myself ).
Such kind of sentimental comments have no place in a world of free trade.
You pay a company and wait for the goods.
Other than that, nothing.
Can't run a business anymore ?
Fully understandable and respected.
Clear your name, settle your accounts and be a gentleman.
Just FYI, I asked him for fb friendship and he accepted immediately, also he posted new products today. Try to contact him at fb.
https://www.facebook.com/andrea.dimas.9?fref=ts
I can totally understand someone having a crisis and would be very sympathetic, but then once you know that you should suspend all orders and not keep taking peoples money. Also he cant be that deathly ill and unable to produce products if he is posting new products on facebook.
Im just really talking about sales in general because I dont really have enough inside info to make comments on this situation, but we do have a member here who is saying they still have not received there money and that's enough for us all to be upset.
This thread is almost a year old, they have had plenty of time to fix whatever is wrong.
They send you the little cheap stuff no problem, he's just waiting for you to place a big dollar order and that's when the grifter get's you
not sure if stupid or balls of steel
Not sure if Mr.Horse's name is Andrea or not
sagt:
I am trying to refrain myself from some XXXXXX comments to Mr.Horse:mad:
LMAO Allen and Alex:celebration:
A bench table? Like they specialize in... yeah... no shit
They responded once the PayPal claim came through. I didn't want to send the case back so I asked for a partial refund. They accepted it.
You didn't receive the brass colored hardware? It's really really light, feels like pot metal. The stuff they used before was solid... likely made of actual brass.
As for the rest, I'll let you be the judge:
Yeah but he doesnt know you or if what you say is true. Because all of us totally have a reason to lie about dimastech...
Since I am an investor of a competing product, it's definitely in my best interest to slander them.
Oh wait, I'm not.
Update.. Still no money back from the order i never got 1 year and 7 month ago.. 800 EUR
So, what ever happened to this promise Andrea, I thought you were trying to fix these problems. To me and my business, reputation is worth well over 1800 euro. I rely on word of mouth (free advertising) and would image you would too, since we are both in very niche markets. Sure some gamer might buy a test-bench instead of a case, but with options like the In Win X-Frame 2.0 for all the bells and wistles or the Streacom HWBot Open Test Bench for barebones lightweight portability I can't see anyone in our community willing to take a shot at ordering from Dimastech and risk having to deal with any of the multiple issues we all know about or have first hand experience with. I have wanted a Dimastech Hard to use with my Z97 GIGA SOC Force LN2 board becase it has no holes to hold down a cpu pot and your table has a solution, but decided to just make a clamp of my own. Many people like the design of your tables but there have just been too many problems to justify any risk, whether valid or not your rep is tarnished and false promises only make it look like there is a larger underlying problem, and in a world with options disaster is on the horizon. Financially you supposedly only have 2 guys to deal with for a tiny amount of money in the overall picture, take care of them, find some investors to help with supply and quality (new hardware unacceptable-like foam metal) and find a way to show the people who have or want to buy your products that the BS is over and succed financially or just shut the doors and move on to the next chapter of your life cause what you're doing now is just a silly waste of time. You only have one life to live !
Dimastech, last activity 4/1/16
So basically nothing has changed with this clown.
Still no money back 1.5 years waiting and thats 1000euro......
Dimastech filed for bankruptcy:
http://www.portalecreditori.it/procedura.php?id=166358&&gc_lng=inglese
Not supriced a bit ,warned about this in about a years time. That he had problem with money.
But hes way to threat hes buyers is even worse and I for sure wont miss Dimastech a bit after losing 1k euro from this clown.....
So be expecting a firesale??
Thread's been up for about a year, I guess it was inevitable. Hope Dimas and family will get through this rough time well. Wish him the best!
I am not sure if you are making fun or just act like the usual self,however wishing Dimas well means you actually don't give 0.02$ on this community,even more for the people that got robbed by Dimastech .
This is really outrageous and you literally bunnyed my day when i read this first thing in the morning.
A thief is what it is , there is no mercy for things like this.
A thief should be treated with no respect,take away what he stole (plus interest eventually) and serve jail-time. Go and steal something from a shop Massman,see what happens...
As I had hoped to see this resolved for the forum members (as well as ourselves), it's a sad day for everyone involved. The fact that I don't align with your pitch-fork mentality says nothing about my respect towards the community.
Check who started the thread to inform other community members
I'll add to this, that I hope Dimas scammed buyers will get through this rough time well. Wish them the best.
Massman,altough it is a terrible waste of time arguing with you,a community leader such as yourself should had created a topic of warning and also front-page announcement to avoid Dimastech since u saw the problems Rosty and Pulse88 got . Instead you claimed you did enough by creating a topic asking if people talked to Dimastech recently.
Then,to add some sugar on the burrial cake you come and express compassion for Dimas . It's been over a fucking year since he had the opportunity to refund these guys , anyone can see this is theft and stupid situation , i don't think i judge him too hard at all.
sagt:
Although I had sworn ( for personal reasons ) to never participate in Forum discussions anymore, I must confess that feeling ANY kind of compassion ( if it is not some kind of sarcastic joke ), towards crooks and thieves, is unacceptable.
Pitch-fork attitude ?
I am truly sorry to advise that real life teaches :-
1) You give me a punch, I send you to hospital
2) You draw a knife, I draw a gun.
3) You try to harm me or my family's life, I send you to the morgue.
Simple as that.
From a person who is dogfighting for a living in the streets since 16, and I am 58 now.
Nothing personal here.
Different angle of looking at things.
Although you mean well i actually find this totally disrespectful to your forum members and is maybe a coment that should of been kept to yourself. Your forum members should always be your #1 priority and without them you are nothing.
Without sponsors they are nothing. Forum members are expendable...
Best wishes for the 2 fellow overclockers that lost a lot of money to that POS Dimas...
After all, it is only money - you both showed extraordinary patience with the clown, hope you won't keep the memory of this scumbag in mind in future dealing in OC community, fortunately - a scum as Dimas, is 1:1000000
Enjoy it, that inch to your nose is all that matters.
You are a great christian PJP, I sure don't sure your good wishes towards Dimas, what he has done to friends of mine, I don't wish him best, far from.
Would serve him well to fail in every aspect of professional life, would be justice
sagt:
No it is not.
Sad, but scams even between members are not so rare.
I have personal experience.
Apologies for the insensitivity towards the people who were affected directly by Dimas' scams. My response was inappropriate for the situation and I should posted differently. I hope the situation does not affect you or your families too much.
Once again my sincere apologies
sagt:
Wow. Even Pack chimed in... I am surprised!
I'm sorry for you guys, the one's who lost out on your hard earned cash.
Doing what he has done is completely unacceptable in anyone's right mind.
I guess this one is over, as sad as the outcome is for the guys who lost out.
sagt:
A thought and a proposal.
Let's open an account on behalf of our two friends who were robbed by
Dimastech and cover their loss.
We spend thousands and thousands of $$$ for HW.
I suppose we could all spend 20-30-40-50 $$$ for our friends and make them feel this is indeed a community.
I expect the Administration of this site to step up to the plate and show to all of us that actions are more important than words.
It would be really nice to strongly support this idea.
I'm up for that, nice idea George.
Good.
Poor pulse who wont see a penny from this thieving fuckwit.
bankruptcy seems like the easy way out because he doesn't have to pay the money back
FYI, the company structure is an SNC meaning he is fully liable for bankruptcy. If he owns a home, it may be seized to pay off debts.
The hearing is on September 20, 2016. For @Pulse88 and @Rosty it might be worth contacting f114.2016brescia@pecfallimenti.it to inquire about the money Dimas still owes.
YOU SIR HAVE MY WALLET!
Even I'm not rich, I do spend alot of money for HW because I like OC and not only it, but I also like this community. I would be glad if something like that happend to me, that there were guys who helped.
What was the loss? 2000€ together? I think, no, I hope that 100 guys can find 20€. A list of guys who helped would be nice unless they want donate anonymously.
sagt:
Seems that my idea did not trigger any positive reaction, besides my friend Andrew ( Kimandsally ) and Elkim, whom I thank wholeheartedly for their support of the idea.
Well...we will all be richer by 20$ I guess. Shame.
Im in. I am rich and famous so that's cool
sagt:
Allen, you are the richest man with the family you got;)
So, What have we got up to now :-
1) Splave
2) Elkim
3) Kimandsally
4) George
5) SamsaRulz
6) Member who wishes to stay anonymous for the moment
7) Second anonymous member
8) ...
9) ...
10) ...
I am certain that this community can show a nice and united face.:celebration:
sagt:
Massman, sir, do you think we might have some Administrative help for this noble cause ?
Like a front page announcement and a link to help our fellow members Rosty and Pulse88 recover as much as possible of the stolen money from Dimastech ?
Thank you in advance for your kind attention sir.
That would be awesome. Some support from administration. I got scammed too and is something I wont recommend to anyone. Can donate too, maybe not much since Im not as rich as Splave haha.
Think that lot of users are keeping an eye on this thread but only a few write a post.
Regards
Good thing to do George for me and rosty.
Its not the money that matters in the first place(even that its hurts to loose that amount), Its how this comunity should help eatch other when things like this happen to members in hwbot. We will likly not be the first that get scammed here or the last. I hope in the future Hwbot admins will take this kind off stuff more sincerely.
Maybe in the future Hwbot should be more careful with sponsors. I would never have ordered that cascade from them, if not hwbot at the time was promoted/partners of Dimastech.
Thanks from evryone thats Supporting us in hard times....
@Massman excuse approved from last post
I hope in the future we will not se comments from Admins that are rude to the community or people affected of scamers.
Best Regards
sagt:
Post n.278 updated.
More members wish to help
sagt:
Here is where we stand :
1) Splave
2) Elkim
3) Kimandsally
4) George
5) SamsaRulz
6) Member who wishes to stay anonymous for the moment
7) Second anonymous member
8) Third anonymous member
9) ...
10) ...
11) ...
Keep it coming folks.
We are humans above all.
sagt:
I'm in too
sagt:
Thank you kindly on behalf of Pulse88 and Rosty.
Here is where we stand :
1) Splave
2) Elkim
3) Kimandsally
4) George
5) SamsaRulz
6) Member who wishes to stay anonymous for the moment
7) Second anonymous member
8) JohnDoe
9) Bullant
10) ...
11) ...
12) ...
Looking good friends
We're reaching out to the Italian authorities to find out if there's a way to make a claim. With a bit of 'luck', maybe those who are affected can be reimbursed this way. In the end, Dimastech is responsible for this and it would be more than just that he pays back what he owes.
The hearing is on September 20, 2016. That's when we will have the final conclusion of this.
sagt:
To all.
For personal reasons, I can't continue to coordinate the "fundraiser" to help Pulse88 and Rosty.
I sincerely wish someone else will pick-up from here and continue this effort.
I am the first willing to donate.
Thank you
Just for your info guys
Everything and every request need to be translated to italian.
Wish you luck
Bankruptcy in italy is like a waste of time if you want money back. First of all the time for a process with good lawyers can last for 20 years and second if dimastech shows to court law doesn't have any money and property you will screw up.
Just for your info, i'm Italian and sucks but it is what is it...
sagt:
Sorry to hear that, GK.
I'd be happy to help with it if needs be.
Hope you, Ney and a few others will help
If it's still a thing, I can dispose of some sterlings.
Trial date reminder . . . September 20 2016 @ 10:00am
sagt:
I will sort out a thread and such when I get home a little later.
sagt:
Oops. Double post. The joys of being on 4G and forgetting what you had posted previously.
Sad to see a company go this way, we have bought quite a few benches off them over the years (we even made there fluids for them in the past) but fully understand the way things are some times. Respect to him for creating a good working company but sad times when things go wrong. It very easy to bury your head when the poo hit the fan and extremely hard to admit there is fault early on, esp when you put a lot of your life into running a company in this cut throat business. I bet you he tried his hardest to get out of the whole mess but seemingly hes had to file for bankruptcy which is a very hard decision to make (no one in business takes bankruptcy likely). I feel very sorry for the guys whom have been hit and lost there money.
I understand how some must feel but calling him a thief isn't a good thing and i bet it wasn't intentional. We have all seen many a big and small company's fall by the way side in this extremely competitive market and i am sure there will be more to come as budgets are squeezed more and more and profit margins are getting tighter and tighter.
Saddens me to see this happening.
From Play3r.net: Dimastech Files For Bankruptcy - Benched For Good? - Play3r.net
Update 00:56GMT 10/07/16
– Dimastech Systems Inc have contacted us via Facebook and stated that the USA section of the company has NOT filed for bankruptcy and has no ties with the Italian side of the business (which has filed for bankruptcy as can be seen here –*114/2016 Dimastech System di Alice Ghioni e c. snc nonch)
No ties? Name isn't enough? Both sides USA and IT had to know about this thread and IT issues, no word from both of them, not even a small partial refund as far as I know.
@mayhems,
You are right, he isn't a thief. A more fitting description would be con artist. Thieves steal from you without your knowledge, con artists trick you into giving them your money.
Everyone would share your sentiment about the situation if dimastech would have continued filling orders correctly. Its one thing to meet your obligations and have your business become insolvent causing you to file bankruptcy. We would all understand that. Its not acceptable to lie/cheat customers to keep the doors open for a while longer then file bankruptcy anyways.
As far as the "USA Dimastech" I don't even know what that would be? I placed my order last year through the USA website, but all correspondence regarding the order came from dimastech in Italy. And ofcourse it was shipped from Italy.
And as I have mentioned before, I placed my order before I knew this thread existed. Had I seen this first, I definitely wouldn't have purchased from them.
Aparently there are several different companies. Rumors say one is owned by Dimas and one by his wife for example. I forwarded the info of this thread also internally in caseking to check what we are up to (currently we still list dimastech products)
Since someone here in forum still not belive That some of us dont got scammed of this Andrea fellow. Here is a pic of my order/first time payment of cascade.
Have rubbed out my personal Info/destination info since i dont wonna have a identity theft.
Have alot of emails to ranging over a year.
Anyway thanks to all that gives Support to me and Rosty in hard times.
Best Regards
Andrea was a large contributor to the overclocking community for a very long time without any problems. Andrea did several kind things for people over the years. Some people have very good memories of dealings with Andrea. I do.
It is sad that the situation got bad and lingered for such a long time. I'd be upset too if I didn't receive what I paid for or a refund.
Popcorn time soon, pitchforks in hand
Anyone know what ever happened here? It looks like there was another hearing scheduled for January 16th but I don't see any updates from that.
Italians never replied to me...
Here's a replay from an Italian guy
Inviato dal mio SM-A300FU utilizzando Tapatalk
Has anyone any information on the current status of Dimastech? Based on their Facebook page the US site was working alright some time ago. You can still place order also on the EU site so is it working or just left like that?
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