HWBOT Testlab #1: GIGABYTE F2A85X-UP4 P10000+ 3DMark Vantage

xxbassplayerxx sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

I thought these chips were hitting 7GHz+ on LN2. Is it because you were using the IGP that it didn't go any higher?

The board is limited to 1.80V Vcore, if I remember correctly, and I was hitting about 6.5GHz on both chips with that voltage. The biggest problem is that the APU will shutdown if you use too much voltage/frequency for either the CPU or the IGP. So, in order not to trigger the shutdown I kept the CPU at relatively low voltage and frequency.

Besides, the effect of CPU frequency is almost insignificant anyway. 1GHz additional CPU frequency equals a total of 11pts boost in 3DMark11.

xxbassplayerxx sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

Yes.

The board is limited to 1.80V Vcore, if I remember correctly, and I was hitting about 6.5GHz on both chips with that voltage. The biggest problem is that the APU will shutdown if you use too much voltage/frequency for either the CPU or the IGP. So, in order not to trigger the shutdown I kept the CPU at relatively low voltage and frequency.

Besides, the effect of CPU frequency is almost insignificant anyway. 1GHz additional CPU frequency equals a total of 11pts boost in 3DMark11.

Wow... I thought the Physics portion of the benchmark had a pretty large effect. Guess not!

Dinos22 sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

cool report man

Massman sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

Wow... I thought the Physics portion of the benchmark had a pretty large effect. Guess not!

It's a balance-thing. For the Physics score to have a large effect, you also need your GPU score to be high.

der8auer sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

Nice report pieter!

froxic sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

Very nice, settings will very be usefull for my next LN2 session! Btw in F3E BIOS can be CPU voltage adjusted to 2,2V ;-)

sin0822 sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

yea the new one has more vcore option, nice job pieter

Raul SDT sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

http://www.criminalcafe.com/showthread.php?10155-Killer-Trinity-top-A10-5800k-confirmado-5.1GHz-no-air-e-7.3GHz-no-LN2

You guys should take a look at this ^^

DKZ sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

AHCI MODE? OR IDE MODE

Massman sagt:

11 year and 8 months ago –

Ide

[K]vlolv sagt:

11 year and 7 months ago –

The biggest problem is that the APU will shutdown if you use too much voltage/frequency for either the CPU or the IGP.

Wondering this a new bugs like llano when used D-Sub such have a limiter or maybe basic trinity characteristic

jp7 sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

is there a way to disable OCP with newer BIOS? i have strange issue over 1.6V with 3dmark vantage

Massman sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

What is the strange issue?

jp7 sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

What is the strange issue?

changing from 4.7GHz 1.5V to 4.7GHz 1.6V get half OPS in CPU test 1 and 2

Massman sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

If the problem would be OCP, the system would just shutdown. This sounds like throttling in some way. How are the temperatures?

The Stilt sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

changing from 4.7GHz 1.5V to 4.7GHz 1.6V get half OPS in CPU test 1 and 2

Or air cooling?

If so it is most likely either VR_Hot (VRM) or CPU HTC activation (@ 70,0°C).

Enable "PowerMode" with TCI K2 and see if it makes any difference.

However it certainly isn´t VRM OCP.

der8auer sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

I don't understand why I can boot up to 145 BCLK but just 106 into windows? And only 102 BCLK are benchstable...

Also I can not go above the 1866 memory divider. If I used 2133 or above it doesn't boot anymore.

Pretty much same settings / voltages like Pieter used in the first post.

Massman sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

For high FSB clocks, you should try the 'even' memory multipliers: either DDR3-800, DDR3-1600 or DDR3-2400. Also set IDE, not AHCI.

der8auer sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

Thanks PJ. Gonna test it now.

Massman sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

Fyi, around 133MHz BCLK (forgot whether it's 133 or 140) the board will switch to the external PLL. So, you might want to go in small steps there. Something like

100 -> 105
105 -> 130
130 -> 145
145 -> 170

Around 170MHz -175 to be precise- was the highest the board could do with multiple CPUs. Afaik, it was related to the used clockgen (you could do a little higher fiddling with clock spectrum).

The boot-in-windows issue is 99% IDE/AHCI related.

der8auer sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

Yes it was IDE related The memory issue was due to wrong subtimings. I had to set all the subtimings manually. Now I can also use 2133 MHz divider.

I'm aiming for about 120-125 MHz BCLK for benching. According to Hicookie the board switches to the external PLL at 133 MHz like you said.

Thanks!

Moose83 sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

Now go Roman, and crush the Trinity for Germany

der8auer sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

Okay I'm realy annoyed now.. Spent 3 days to get the correct performance and to unbug the system with these crappy AMD drivers and when I just wanted to start the 2nd Lightning died out of nowhere on stock clocks.

jp7 sagt:

11 year and 5 months ago –

Or air cooling?
If so it is most likely either VR_Hot (VRM) or CPU HTC activation (@ 70,0°C).

Enable "PowerMode" with TCI K2 and see if it makes any difference.

However it certainly isn´t VRM OCP.

SS cooling, is not related to temperatures, CPU\GPU under zero and VRM are not hot, after some run 22/24° ( checked with TCI K2 )

enabled PowerMode but doesn't change the situation.

it is very strange... I can't understand why there is this sort of throttling however tomorrow I am going to format and reinstall OS but I am not confident