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HWBOT OC Challenge November 2010

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  • 11.01.2010 00:00 +0000 - 11.30.2010 23:59 +0000
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SteveRo
SteveRo

Good morning, pcmv - great! I love this benchmark!

And no six core? - this makes it harder, although 4 core procs can do well in this bench also!

Just to be sure - older benches are ok to submit (prior to 01Nov?)

Massman
Massman

Yeah, limited to 4x CPU because I want to see CPU limited runs :-)

 

Older benches can be submit as long as they fit the limitations

SteveRo
SteveRo

Mr. Massman, have you run pcmv against many single cores?

 

Its a very tough bench for those little guys.

SteveRo
SteveRo

Mr Massman, Question sir -

Cpu-z showing mainboard?

Most of us have not been doing this.

Many previous benches will not be legal to submit for this competition if you require this.

Just wanted to make sure you knew.

SteveRo
SteveRo

Can a valid futurmark link be supplied in place of the subscores in the screenshot?

Massman
Massman
Mr. Massman, have you run pcmv against many single cores?

 

Its a very tough bench for those little guys.

 

I have never run PCMark Vantage in my life ... so this challenge will be the first time :D

 

The more stress is put on the CPU, the better. I like tough benchmarks.

 

Mr Massman, Question sir -

Cpu-z showing mainboard?

Most of us have not been doing this.

Many previous benches will not be legal to submit for this competition if you require this.

Just wanted to make sure you knew.

 

That's okay. The competition is mainly to motivate people to bench something new, it's not to get people to submit old results.

 

Can a valid futurmark link be supplied in place of the subscores in the screenshot?

 

No, subtest scores must be in the screenshot.

knopflerbruce
knopflerbruce

One thing I noticed... the way the rules are written it sounds like you can disable cores on something like a 980x and bench to get a nice score in the 2 core category. Is that on purpose?

Dreadlockyx
Dreadlockyx

It goes a bit like Knopfrlerbruce's question: can we use a 4-core CPU and disable HT (Intel only) or do we have to use 4-core CPU with no HT ?

Massman
Massman

It's like it is in normal HWBOT: you're allowed to unlock cores and play in a 'higher' league, but you're not allowed to disable cores to play in a 'lower' league. So: unlocking 2 to 4 is allowed (playing in 4), but disabling 6 to 1 is not allowed (you'll still be playing in 6-core league).

 

Hyperthreading is a feature, so of course you can enable it for the 4-core category.

Linuxfan
Linuxfan

Nice OC challenge this month!

Andreika
Andreika

Could you please update stages with core count. Now looks like we are benching multiprocessor systems.... 1x CPU instead of 1x Core CPU....

Massman
Massman

?

 

It says "use X processor core(s)" ... that's #cores?

Andreika
Andreika

Sorry for another lamer's question. Core i5 670 with 2 core and 4 threads will be placed on 2 core stage isn't it? If yes - this will be not fair coz HT gives some boost. AMD cpuz haven't HT....

Linuxfan
Linuxfan
Sorry for another lamer's question. Core i5 670 with 2 core and 4 threads will be placed on 2 core stage isn't it? If yes - this will be not fair coz HT gives some boost. AMD cpuz haven't HT....

Just look at Wprime rankings with 2x CPUs and see whre AMD is.

Massman
Massman

You are correct: 2 cores and 4 threads go into the 2-core competition.

 

Why? Hyperthreading is a feature Intel implented to improve the multi-threading performance. It's a FEATURE, just like 'amount of L2 cache' is :)

G.Foyle
G.Foyle

I guess the problem is with core count getting more and more blurred. HT is an investment in die area that does not increase core count but increases performance. Next gen AMD CPUs have something opposite - decrease of die area (per 2 cores) enabling higher core counts. Core count based rankings will be even more Intel-biased then, unless we count bulldozer modules as cores (which is wrong) or logical cores as cores (which is also wrong) or base our rankings on thread count instead of core count (which will unleash a storm of whining and outrage).

Andreika
Andreika
You are correct: 2 cores and 4 threads go into the 2-core competition.

 

So it's good to have 2 and 4 core configs on intel...... While 1 and 3 cores only AMD...

This can be interesting...

topdog
topdog
Mr Massman, Question sir -

Cpu-z showing mainboard?

Most of us have not been doing this.

Many previous benches will not be legal to submit for this competition if you require this.

Just wanted to make sure you knew.

 

That's okay.

 

Does this mean that we dont need the mainboard tab from previous benchmarks to enter this competition ?

Massman
Massman

No, it means that many members not being able to submit old results is not a problem for me. As these kinds of challenges are meant for people to make new scores

topdog
topdog

ok thanks

computurd
computurd

if we have a URL for a top score will that work in lieu of a screenie?

Massman
Massman

No, screenie is mandatory, URL is additional

dontiq
dontiq
It's like it is in normal HWBOT: you're allowed to unlock cores and play in a 'higher' league, but you're not allowed to disable cores to play in a 'lower' league. So: unlocking 2 to 4 is allowed (playing in 4), but disabling 6 to 1 is not allowed (you'll still be playing in 6-core league).

 

Hyperthreading is a feature, so of course you can enable it for the 4-core category.

 

i can not submit Phenom II 710 with 4-core unlocked on 4-core category

the error message: "Use 4 processor core(s) in total" :(

Massman
Massman

Can the people who have problems submitting with unlocked cores post the URLs of the scores here, please?

 

I will manually link them to the competition untill the bug is solved coding-wise.

Massman
Massman

Added to competition :)

FrAnDeoX
FrAnDeoX

massman please add to masape

Massman
Massman

Added to competition

_0CooL_
_0CooL_
It goes a bit like Knopfrlerbruce's question: can we use a 4-core CPU and disable HT (Intel only) or do we have to use 4-core CPU with no HT ?

 

so, have you a response for this answer ?

Massman
Massman

Oh, sorry, my bad!

 

Fixed it.

Strat
Strat

Hi all,

Trying to run a Sempron 140... Always black windows at the end of game test 1 :(

 

Somebody found the way to fix it? :D

Andreika
Andreika

Hi. I have athlon 2 X2 220 CPU, with AM3 socket and C3 stepping. It's missing in submition CPU list and after unlock showed in CPU-Z like phenom 2 X4 920 with stepping window blank.

 

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Could you add CPU in list, coz we are planning to make some submitions with this CPU soon.

SteveRo
SteveRo
Hi all,

Trying to run a Sempron 140... Always black windows at the end of game test 1 :(

 

Somebody found the way to fix it? :D

 

sometimes yu can wait it out sometimes it never changes, i haven't figured it out either.

SteveRo
SteveRo
Oh, sorry, my bad!

 

Fixed it.

 

Given what you have to put up with sometimes, i can understand how you might feel you are 70.

Strat
Strat
sometimes yu can wait it out sometimes it never changes, i haven't figured it out either.

 

Thanks for the answer SteveRo, i've tried to figure it out for hours but the issue seems to be random.

 

Sorry guys for my english :D

leeghoofd
leeghoofd
Hi all,

Trying to run a Sempron 140... Always black windows at the end of game test 1 :(

 

Somebody found the way to fix it? :D

 

No idea, it does it even at stock here :D Must be some caching problem. Weird thing is if you only select the gaming suite, then the forst benchie runs fine and smooth... if you do the pcmark suite it runs choppy and eventually craps out...

Tiltevros
Tiltevros

can i use this one for 1 core competition???

leeghoofd
leeghoofd

Hehehe if it was up to me : Nope , coz you use in reality two processor cores... not one real and one HT one like some...

 

If you are allowed it's an easy win there :P

Massman
Massman
can i use this one for 1 core competition???

 

No.

 

In total you use 2x1=2 cores

Tiltevros
Tiltevros

but the cpu-z shows 1 core 2 threads :S

Massman
Massman

You'll see that the #CPU field is active, indicating there are multiple physical CPUs.

Strat
Strat
No idea, it does it even at stock here :D Must be some caching problem. Weird thing is if you only select the gaming suite, then the forst benchie runs fine and smooth... if you do the pcmark suite it runs choppy and eventually craps out...

 

Thanks :D Also at stock here, sometimes it's Windows which stops 3DMV, sometimes black screen after Gaming Test 1... I would say 1/10 run ends ok.

We'll try that under Ln² next monday, I think it's gonna be funny with that issues :D

leeghoofd
leeghoofd

I had one succesfull run today (1/23 lol), it continued after the black screen after a few loops, score was too low though to compete :( I'm gonn a try phase in the weekend, though the cpu will limit me at 4.2Ghz max :(

 

I posted our issue on the FM webbie.. Jarnis is intrigued ( which is a good thing lol )

Massman
Massman

Enough for what?

 

The competition is a single core competition. Using two times a single core equals ... using two cores. And two cores is not one core.

 

If you open the CPU-Z application, you'll notice that the active processor box is active. For dumps that might be different.

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