Cheapaz Chips Season 3 - Unigine Heaven - Basic

Stage: Unigine Heaven - Basic open - closed since 3 Jun

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Stage Details

Unigine Heaven - Basic is closed since 3 June 2019.

LIMITATIONS

Only use videocards based on the Cedar core.
Use the official Cheapaz Chips wallpaper
Processor speed is limited to 5003 MHz.
Please attach a picture of your overclocking rig.
A verification screenshot is required.
3DMark links must be included, and the scores must be valid on 3dmark.com
Use a maximum of 4 CPU cores (cpus with disabled cores are allowed).
CPU frequency monitoring via HWINFO tool (included in screenshot)

Currently top leader

The Silver 357.33 DX9 Marks good for 50 pts

Participate

Stage 1 - 3DMark - Sky Diver (GPU)
Stage 2 - Unigine Heaven - Basic
Stage 3 - 3DMark06
Stage 4 - 3DMark11 - Entry (GPU)

Unigine Heaven - Basic Ranking

The Silver - 357.33 DX9 Marks - 50 pts

macsbeach98 - 338.45 DX9 Marks - 41 pts

Splave - 336.53 DX9 Marks - 36 pts

superpatodonaldo - 334.29 DX9 Marks - 32 pts

jab383 - 332.13 DX9 Marks - 30 pts

Cowwan - 328.72 DX9 Marks - 28 pts

marco.is.not.80 - 323.27 DX9 Marks - 26 pts

TheQuentincc - 317.28 DX9 Marks - 24 pts

Pieliker96 - 309.78 DX9 Marks - 22 pts

noizemaker - 299.03 DX9 Marks - 20 pts

Simi37 - 287.34 DX9 Marks - 19 pts

skulstation - 269.07 DX9 Marks - 18 pts

Obijuan83 - 256.61 DX9 Marks - 17 pts

ThePook - 250.29 DX9 Marks - 16 pts

Hohenlingus - 234.29 DX9 Marks - 15 pts

Latest submissions for stage Unigine Heaven - Basic

Rankings or points out of date? Recalculate ranking

	Benchmark	Score	User		Team		Frequency	Hardware	Cooling
1.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	357.33 DX9 Marks		The Silver		French Legion	1385/1100 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	LN2	1 2
2.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	317.28 DX9 Marks		TheQuentincc		Hardware.fr [HFR]	1250/980 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	Air	0 1
3.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	234.29 DX9 Marks		Hohenlingus		LingusOC	715/700 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	Stock	0 0
4.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	287.34 DX9 Marks		Simi37		Team Hungary	1301/852 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	Air	0 0
5.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	334.29 DX9 Marks		superpatodonaldo		XtremeOverdrive OC team Italy	1335/999 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	H2O	0 1
6.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	333.21 DX9 Marks		superpatodonaldo		XtremeOverdrive OC team Italy	1310/1000 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	H2O	0 0
7.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	327.91 DX9 Marks		superpatodonaldo		XtremeOverdrive OC team Italy	1275/1000 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	Air	0 1
8.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	323.27 DX9 Marks		marco.is.not.80		ASUS Republic of Gamers	1390/950 MHz	HP Compaq Radeon HD 7350	Dice	0 0
9.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	338.45 DX9 Marks		macsbeach98		Warp9-systems	1280/1043 MHz	Radeon HD 5450 (PCIe, GDDR3, 64bit)	H2O	0 1
10.	Unigine Heaven - Basic	328.72 DX9 Marks		Cowwan		Enthusiasts of United States	1400/1000 MHz	Radeon HD 8350	Air	0 0

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Unigine Heaven - Basic

357.33 DX9 Marks

The Silver

50 pts

338.45 DX9 Marks

macsbeach98

41 pts

336.53 DX9 Marks

Splave

36 pts

334.29 DX9 Marks

superpatodonaldo

32 pts

332.13 DX9 Marks

jab383

30 pts

328.72 DX9 Marks

Cowwan

28 pts

323.27 DX9 Marks

marco.is.not.80

26 pts

317.28 DX9 Marks

TheQuentincc

24 pts

309.78 DX9 Marks

Pieliker96

22 pts

299.03 DX9 Marks

noizemaker

20 pts

287.34 DX9 Marks

Simi37

19 pts

269.07 DX9 Marks

skulstation

18 pts

256.61 DX9 Marks

Obijuan83

17 pts

250.29 DX9 Marks

ThePook

16 pts

234.29 DX9 Marks

Hohenlingus

15 pts

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Official competition

This is an online event. Participants can compete from all around the world, and make submissions online.

As this is an official level 1 OC-ESPORTS competition, competitors will receive points for the final ranking as following:

First place: 10 Points
Second place: 8 Points
Third place: 6 Points
Fourth place: 4 Points
Fifth place: 2 Points

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Comments

Discuss the competition at the HWBOT forum (97 comments)

Ardamir says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

Hello guys, Ardamir here, a novice OC'er. This will be the first competition I'm taking part in, so I have a question about the rules. All is pretty clear, except this one part. "All results are the Graphics Score not the total". Clearly this concerns the 3DMark Benchmarks, since only they give a standalone graphics score, along with the others. Now everything seems fine in 3DMark11 and 3DMark (Skydiver), until you look at 3DMark06. 3DMark06 doesn't really have a Graphics Score section since it differentiates the scores in SM2.0, HDR/SM3.0 and CPU. Ok, so we're definately not submitting the CPU one, but what about the other 2? They both express graphics scores but can't be summed up in any way by the benchmark. So, in the end, what are we submitting for 3DMark06? Can we get a mod here to clarify? Well, here's me hoping that you don't submit the total score, cause my R5 1400 can't really compete on physics with the 5GHz Intel chips.... P.S Sorry if my english is not great at some points, not my first language.

yosarianilives says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

@Leeghoofd @GeorgeStorm Are we still going with graphics score for this? I know we said that mods would just keep in mind that it's for the comp but I see that the rules have also been changed to not include the line about graphics score only. Also if it is graphics score only which GT do we want to count for 3dm06?

xMec says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

Only hd 5450 or all gpu based on Cedar can be used?

Ardamir says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

[quote]

Only hd 5450 or all gpu based on Cedar can be used?

[/quote] All Cedar GPU's. Essentially its the same chip as the one on the 5450 though, I checked it. Here is a list of the Chedar chips. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/amd-cedar.g113

yosarianilives says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

20 minutes ago, xMec said:

Only hd 5450 or all gpu based on Cedar can be used?

All cedar cores, although 5450 is likely the easiest to find

yosarianilives says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

On 4/15/2019 at 4:50 PM, Ardamir said:

Hello guys, Ardamir here, a novice OC'er. This will be the first competition I'm taking part in, so I have a question about the rules. All is pretty clear, except this one part. "All results are the Graphics Score not the total". Clearly this concerns the 3DMark Benchmarks, since only they give a standalone graphics score, along with the others. Now everything seems fine in 3DMark11 and 3DMark (Skydiver), until you look at 3DMark06. 3DMark06 doesn't really have a Graphics Score section since it differentiates the scores in SM2.0, HDR/SM3.0 and CPU. Ok, so we're definately not submitting the CPU one, but what about the other 2? They both express graphics scores but can't be summed up in any way by the benchmark. So, in the end, what are we submitting for 3DMark06? Can we get a mod here to clarify? Well, here's me hoping that you don't submit the total score, cause my R5 1400 can't really compete on physics with the 5GHz Intel chips.... P.S Sorry if my english is not great at some points, not my first language.

Until the judges clarify it seems that people are subbing the total score, you'll be at disavantage with your 1400 but the gpu is very weak and still holds the score back a whole lot

leeghoofd says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

K I'll try to get things sorted out, where's Geoooooooooooooooorge

Mr.Scott says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

Ardamir says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

Leeghoofd replied this to my PM and I thought I should share it here. "talked to George we go for the graphics score, only 3DMark06 is total score, due to the issues you mentioned" Thanks to everyone for helping out with that issue!

GeorgeStorm says:

1 year and 1 months ago –

Apologies all

PM me if there are issues, it's too easy to miss/ignore a tag 🙈

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

LOL The Silver. You didn't get breast fed when you were a kid or something?

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

20 hours ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

LOL The Silver. You didn't get breast fed when you were a kid or something?

I am confuse? Unless you mean his sandbag

The Silver says:

11 months ago –

marco you're the champion!!!!!🤗

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

Honestly, don't know what sandbagging means in this context so help me out.

did you mean douche bag?

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

51 minutes ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

Honestly, don't know what sandbagging means in this context so help me out.

did you mean douche bag?

Waiting until the last minute to drop scores so that people don't know that they need to rebench is a tried and true tactic for benching. Is it in good sportsmanship? Probably not. Is it allowed? Definitely.

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

Yep - that's exactly what I was talking about. So Sandbag = Douchebag. Good to know. If I was macsbeach98 I would be especially pissed off since clearly if there had been any time left he could've resubmitted and taken the lead.

Anyways, as you said - it's allowed (I can't think of a way you could stop it) but it certainly isn't respectable.

Mr.Scott says:

11 months ago –

18 minutes ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

If I was macsbeach98 I would be especially pissed off since clearly if there had been any time left he could've resubmitted and taken the lead.

Not likely.

Pete doesn't hold back. I guaranty that his final subs were the best he could do.

The pile of dead cards he had for this contest was incredible BTW.

Sandbagging is a given. Everybody with half a brain knows that going in, so it is what it is.

ObscureParadox says:

11 months ago –

1 hour ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

Yep - that's exactly what I was talking about. So Sandbag = Douchebag. Good to know. If I was macsbeach98 I would be especially pissed off since clearly if there had been any time left he could've resubmitted and taken the lead.

Anyways, as you said - it's allowed (I can't think of a way you could stop it) but it certainly isn't respectable.

you must be new around these parts.

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

I am.

macsbeach98 says:

11 months ago –

I am not pissed off but I think rules are rules and everyone should stick to them as was posted here.

Valid futuremark link usually means VALID

A few dead soldiers

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

LOD @ co.... no alteration ....was the rules from original yes ? seems to me looking at this it has been, but im no expert , would this be looked into please ?

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36551674

Benchmark tessellation load modified by AMD Catalyst driver, result invalid. Check your video driver settings. (What is this?)

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

I killed my HD5450 preparing the mem vmod….so no better score.

Sandbagging is allowed, no problem about that. If I know I have better scores I can wait last minute to sub, like many people do; if I have not, it doesn't matter. For sure it is not so smart to wait last comp day to rebench because someone put better scores.

My thought: no sandbagginng? So need to make Q1 Q2 Q3 like formula 1 or similar, but I think this is not a good solution

The Silver says:

11 months ago –

I spent a lot of time finding the drivers and windows to optimize for each bench and in one screen you will have seen my work... that's the reason for my sandbag!!

macsbeach98 says:

11 months ago –

11 minutes ago, The_Silver said:

I spent a lot of time finding the drivers and windows to optimize for each bench and in one screen you will have seen my work... that's the reason for my sandbag!!

Good job was that a genuine MSI card and not a Lenovo OEM card which were made by MSI?

Your mem speed is good.

GeorgeStorm says:

11 months ago –

Everybody chill Sandbagging is part of 'the game' I don't like it but its not against the rules.

Went through Sky Diver this morning, mostly good scores, couple of invalid links/missing CPUz tabs

Will try to go through the rest later today/tomorrow.

TheQuentincc says:

11 months ago –

12 minutes ago, The_Silver said:

I spent a lot of time finding the drivers and windows to optimize for each bench and in one screen you will have seen my work... that's the reason for my sandbag!!

Rules are rules and all of your 3dmark submission are not valid on their website, sadly, maybe "unregonized processor" is okay so only sky diver is invalid.

Still great effort to see score like that for "regular benchmarking" (= not in competition with that sort of rules).

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

how about eveyone that HASNT sandbagged , put their hands up, ??? if you got a good score and the aim is to win or claim a better position in a comp at the last time you can if you can........ and it is "NOT"... against the rules , been goin on for years !!!!!and not likely to change anytime soon

how many have ' nt ?.... lets see ??? ................any takers ?

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

21 minutes ago, TheQuentincc said:

Rules are rules and all of your 3dmark submission are not valid on their website, sadly, maybe "unregonized processor" is okay so only sky diver is invalid.

Still great effort to see score like that for "regular benchmarking" (= not in competition with that sort of rules).

VALID must be VALID....PROCESSOR IS NOT RECOGNIZED doesn't sound VALID

rules are rules for everybody

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

I mean, I for one am not nearly good enough to have the luxury to think my scores would ever be good enough to hold out submission on. Once I get there I'll let you know.

And Mac - Scotty is right that is a crazy collection of AMD cards... I was most impressed with your use of the powerboards. I have a new model EVGA but couldn't get it to work and chickened out. I know that it was holding me back once I was using the LN2. My memory overclocks on all my submissions were really low.

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

my opinion is this, ...., like it or not i dont care, if it is not validated properly and gets subbed its either bugged or been cheated some how , and i can give you a prime example of that with one of my subs yrs ago when i first started, but it got validated on cpuz, i knew it wasnt right, impossible score to get on air for a start, and with basic crucial ram , i messaged cpuz and got no reply, it took forever for that to be rejected, , , all i did at the time was move the mouse back and forth and noticed the speed increase so high , tried it and it validated, but it stands 10th now on 5445 mhz (real)

http://valid.x86.fr/hv3zmk

http://valid.x86.fr/top-cpu/414d4420465828746d292d3431333020517561642d436f72652050726f636573736f72

TheQuentincc says:

11 months ago –

45 minutes ago, superpatodonaldo said:

VALID must be VALID....PROCESSOR IS NOT RECOGNIZED doesn't sound VALID

rules are rules for everybody

I agree with you on that

Also we should have only one forum thread for each competition, for exemple I didn't see the rules linked by macsbeach98 the previous page before today, there is no link with that thread on the main page of the competition which lack some of these rules.

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

17 minutes ago, TheQuentincc said:

I agree with you on that

Also we should have only one forum thread for each competition, for exemple I didn't see the rules linked by macsbeach98 the previous page before today, there is no link with that thread on the main page of the competition which lack some of these rules.

it is not up to macsbeach98 , or any other competitor to link rules , moderators set the rules, not the competitors that have to "link " them to anything unless they wish to for their reasons , all competitors have to is this ...: follow the rules made " by the moderators !!!!!

my position as i see it on this or any other comp is this, theres 3 ways to deal with it

either speak your concerns in the thread usually created prior about the comp for what ever section you wish to go in

abide by the rules set by BOTs mods for what ever the comp / section

or dont bother competing in it

its quite simple to me 😊!!!!

Niuulh says:

11 months ago –

Guys you seeriously have anger issues... In the end everyone post they best score so is someone get better score that mean he find good chip and work harden that others. If the Silver have truly made something that against rules i'll be the first to delete his scores. Otherwise cry about submit time and insult other people is really sad to read....

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

anger ??? no anger from me, i was speaking about the "rules" nothing more, seems you have the meaning of anger and rules confused 😶

Niuulh says:

11 months ago –

42 minutes ago, ozzie said:

anger ??? no anger from me, i was speaking about the "rules" nothing more, seems you have the meaning of anger and rules confused 😶

If someone is out of rules so let moderators do the job. I'm not pointing you directly btw. But read people get mad about sub time and calling other "douchebag" and so... What's the fuck, Can't people wait and behave ?

The Silver says:

11 months ago –

genuine msi

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

I'm not a mod, but imho procesor not recognized is forgivable as the screenshot shows enough, main purpose of valid imho is to prevent timekeeping bugs and tess/lod mods. From what I've seen the only score that needed removed was skydiver and it was. May need to have the rankings recalced though as it still shows the silver as having 200 points overall even though the current total would be 150 which would put him in second with mac in first.

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

6 hours ago, The_Silver said:

I spent a lot of time finding the drivers and windows to optimize for each bench and in one screen you will have seen my work... that's the reason for my sandbag!!

You must've spent a lot of time indeed, did you run out of time on heaven? Your cpu and ram appears to be stock

warper says:

11 months ago –

the thread name "rules clarification" is useless. Please next time set the rules in the proper thread. If you miss the one with the rules you refere to the hwbot rules and you get invalid sub. that's what happend to TheSilver. the rule who forbid the lod and tess is never marked on hwbot competition page.

GeorgeStorm says:

11 months ago –

https://hwbot.org/competition/cheapaz_chips_s3/stage/4564_3dmark_-_sky_diver_(gpu)

Does that page not show the rules for other people? States the score must be valid on 3dmark.com

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

32 minutes ago, warper said:

the thread name "rules clarification" is useless. Please next time set the rules in the proper thread. If you miss the one with the rules you refere to the hwbot rules and you get invalid sub. that's what happend to TheSilver. the rule who forbid the lod and tess is never marked on hwbot competition page.

Rules are stated clearly on all pages.

rm3113 says:

11 months ago –

this rule applies?

TheQuentincc says:

11 months ago –

4 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said:

https://hwbot.org/competition/cheapaz_chips_s3/stage/4564_3dmark_-_sky_diver_(gpu)

Does that page not show the rules for other people? States the score must be valid on 3dmark.com

I mean it lacks these two rules from the auxiliary thread : "Must include a picture of the modded card" and "(thus no LOD and co allowed)".

bolc says:

11 months ago –

am i lost or this says system info ver 5.3 ...?

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/36500627?

https://hwbot.org/submission/4168434

https://benchmarks.ul.com/systeminfo

i thought 5.18 was the latest since May 2... unless the mods tell us that for hd5450 it does not matter to have old system info version, most results will not be valid...?

GeorgeStorm says:

11 months ago –

I'll have a look about system info, I was just checking to see if links were valid.

Must include picture of overclocking rig I felt covered the card, but yes could have added that specifically, and a valid link covers no LOD etc.

bolc says:

11 months ago –

look for incorrect backgrounds and you will get some reshuffling of the 1st place
The Silver may get the 1st in the end ! 🤣

https://hwbot.org/submission/4166028

Mr.Scott says:

11 months ago –

Wrong backround on 06 Pete.

The Silver says:

11 months ago –

there is too much to check for competitions, the basic concept is great but unfortunately wasted by a huge number of rules falling from the sky in the end it is more the best clocker it is the one who can get everything good...

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

2 minutes ago, The_Silver said:

there is too much to check for competitions, the basic concept is great but unfortunately wasted by a huge number of rules falling from the sky in the end it is more the best clocker it is the one who can get everything good...

If people would just run bench then we would not need rules around what optimizations are allowed, however people want to tweak so we need to be strict to ensure an even playing field. As for backgrounds and pics of mods done it's about this being a comp and not just comparing scores that have been done, as well as the original point of encouraging people to try modding. I don't know if anyone learned to mod because of the comp this year or not, but I believe some have.

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

19 minutes ago, The_Silver said:

there is too much to check for competitions, the basic concept is great but unfortunately wasted by a huge number of rules falling from the sky in the end it is more the best clocker it is the one who can get everything good...

So next time ask for a comp without rules.

When one member decided to participate, (s)he accepts the rules.

Too much rules or too restrictive? this is not the right place nor the right time (competition ended) to debate about

TheQuentincc says:

11 months ago –

8 minutes ago, The_Silver said:

there is too much to check for competitions, the basic concept is great but unfortunately wasted by a huge number of rules falling from the sky in the end it is more the best clocker it is the one who can get everything good...

I don't think any "unfair" rules fall from the sky at the end, I mean to agree with "the scores must be valid on 3dmark.com" you musn't use tweak (at least not these that invalid the submission), for sure it wasn't explicitly written that LOD and others tweak were not allowed but you should have be more careful about it.

Also it's the risk of posting submisson at the last minute, if you posted it before you would have been warned about these and you could have made new submission.

rm3113 says:

11 months ago –

most of the scores are invalid

the rules are the rules no?

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

rules are rules........end of story !!!!

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

7 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

As for backgrounds and pics of mods done it's about this being a comp and not just comparing scores that have been done, as well as the original point of encouraging people to try modding. I don't know if anyone learned to mod because of the comp this year or not, but I believe some have.

Yes. Definitely for me. This comp was an awesome experience and I learned so much that will be valuable moving forward.

bolc says:

11 months ago –

does the competition rules say that the sub should comply with hwbot rules ?

i guess you can have scores valid for a comp but invalid on hwbot hence not making points on hwbot ?

bolc says:

11 months ago –

12 hours ago, Mr.Scott said:

Wrong backround on 06 Pete.

sad but true. I did nt want to be the party pooper but as things go, I may add the link now...

https://hwbot.org/submission/4166028

macsbeach98 says:

11 months ago –

I buggered up there not to worry its over and I didnt win anyway.☹️

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

5 hours ago, macsbeach98 said:

I buggered up there not to worry its over and I didnt win anyway.☹️

Yes you did. Go check the latest standings. Congrats to the top 3 - Macsbeach, TheSilver and Superpatodonaldo.

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

10 minutes ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

Yes you did. Go check the latest standings. Congrats to the top 3 - Macsbeach, TheSilver and Superpatodonaldo.

That ranking may change once again after Mac's current 3dm06 score gets taken down. Depends how many places his next fastest score is from where it is now, if he even has another score submitted.

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

Hmmm... didn't realize that there were still more adjustments. Well, no matter - he's the winner to me since I spent the whole time chasing him. haha...

macsbeach98 says:

11 months ago –

Thanks either way it was good fun.

The previous sub is only about 50 marks behind.😃

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

he deserved it too, good on ya pete, 👍, all those cards later, even with the wrong background sub, just a miss coz you were doing challenger as well, easy to miss, only human , we all make mistakes and usually at the wrong time lol, good stuff, you earnt it !!!!!!

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

My only regret is that I didn't have time/couldn't motivate myself to join in this comp. Seems kinda wack to push for an organize this comp then not even participate 😬

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

On 6/7/2019 at 10:23 PM, yosarianilives said:

My only regret is that I didn't have time/couldn't motivate myself to join in this comp. Seems kinda wack to push for an organize this comp then not even participate 😬

why not ? you had plenty of time as everyone else did. why dont you just be quiet. you seem to have lot to say about nothing ive noticed in many threads, for many things, so unless you have the intention, how about zip it for a while ? really, like many on here youre more talk than action !!!

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

when the official final ranking will be ready?

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

when its ready i would expect , does it really matte to see your name there in 1- 2 -3.or t he the work you put into it to get there that is more satisfyingy ??, for me the latter, for you maybe different

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

sorry mate but (due to my low english knowloledge) I don't completly undertand your post

my question is about how much time we need to wait the ranking moderation, because comp ends a week ago; maybe not the most important comp (CHEAP stuff ) but always an HWBOT comp

leeghoofd says:

11 months ago –

K guys seems we have several debatable points here, typical that only after the compo ends people start to report or highlight stuff

Press LIKE if we go for light moderation (+reinstating pulled scores)

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My two cents on the matter of the systeminfo:

Newer systeminfo are to counteract issues with Win8/10 and/or support newer hardware/platforms=> since most scores are done on 7 and if there are no real out of whack scores I would leave the moderation as follows:

Score must be validated on FM/UL site and showing no signs of driver tweaking or other funcky stuff like Time meaurement and co

Unrecognised processor and such are linked to a too old Systeminfo version being used,. Question for you all does that impact the score yes or no? What if the score is VALID with an older systeminfo version? As long it has no effect on the score I vote to keep the scores.

If we go light I can re-instate pulled scores but I need a valid screenshot and FM link (via PM)

If one can not live with the above I will moderate all scores and remove for not using the latest systeminfo or not being VALID,. Which would be a shame for such a fun compo. Remember this was Georges first compo, I guess he realises now how the scene works....

Give me heads up how to tackle this, only inputs from competitors plz... spectators don't count 😛

Press LIKE if we go for light moderation (+reinstating pulled scores)

Press CONFUSED to go for harsh moderation

skulstation says:

11 months ago –

In my case i use system info 5.18
Cpu not recognized ( i3-9350kf ) and driver not aproved.
For me its ok to alow this , but not ok any kind of driver tweaks ( teslation / lod ) and / or time error

GeorgeStorm says:

11 months ago –

Thanks @Leeghoofd

Mixture of not having any time at the moment and not being super familiar with more recent 3dmark validation has resulted in this confusion.

I just took valid to be all good, whereas it looks like you can get a valid score with an older systeminfo, but that's not valid according to hwbot rules which I missed.

I'm happy going with whatever those who took part would rather, lenient or strict moderation. LOD/drive settings changed are a no, but letting processor not recognised, unverified driver etc pass is fine with me, although in general I would say in the future, if a comp says a valid link is required, make sure your link says valid to avoid as many issues as possible.

ObscureParadox says:

11 months ago –

Honestly people need to get a damn grip and stop trying to get a backhanded advantage over their competitors. We all know that "processor not recognized" or other means bugger all to the score so stop trying to take out higher ranked competitors because of this.

This sort of pointless bickering is what's ruining an otherwise great website and community. If you guys want this site to continue I suggest you either shape up or take the time to do the work yourself to keep it going.

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

I like to point out that:

1) sandbagging -> score submitted at the end -> if reported, inevitably after the comp end

I am not against sandbagging nor @The Silver he do a great work; and I didn't realize that @macsbeach98 had a wrong background, also he is a great overclocker and modder

2) due to past experience, when I submitted a benchmark @ FM and notice that is not valid (if needed by comp rules) I rework until found the right systeminfo (or solving other issues), to respect the rules.

VALID FM LINK = just VALID

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

i would think superpatodonaldo they are pretty busy at the moment , i would suggest give them a bit of time, lets not forget , these people give their time and effort for free for us !!!

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

K, I hope no one misunderstanding me, my intention is not to offend someone

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

7 minutes ago, superpatodonaldo said:

I like to point out that:

1) sandbagging -> score submitted at the end -> if reported, inevitably after the comp end

I am not against sandbagging nor @The Silver he do a great work; and I didn't realize that @macsbeach98 had a wrong background, also he is a great overclocker and modder

2) due to past experience, when I submitted a benchmark @ FM and notice that is not valid (if needed by comp rules) I rework until found the right systeminfo (or solving other issues), to respect the rules.

VALID FM LINK = just VALID

both the silver and macsbeach were penalised for it, not following the rules set down

macsbeach won out in the end coz he never gives up, and had the best subs and scores in the end of the comp , its that simple

leeghoofd says:

11 months ago –

Press LIKE if we go for light moderation (+reinstating pulled scores)

Press CONFUSED to go for harsh moderation

not gonna read through 20 posts to try to figure out what the majority wants or not 😛

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

i thought rules were made by the mods for any comp, if theres any discrepancy of them, theres usually a thread to discuss it beforhand of the comp, not after it

if the rules are flawed for any reason then thats up to the mods to decide, and be changed accordingly, during or thru the comp, not the competitors that went into it after it , especially after the comp is done and finished

if i am wrong please disregard my post ☺️

leeghoofd says:

11 months ago –

If I follow the rules there won't be much left over from this compo...

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

that gives me a whole lot of confidence in the rules set by the mods alby, thanx 😞

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

18 minutes ago, Leeghoofd said:

If I follow the rules there won't be much left over from this compo...

for what I know (or think to know…), a moderator had to follow the rules

leeghoofd says:

11 months ago –

vote if you want to be heard...

I would like this fun compo to be used as a leason learned for upcoming events...

Majority wins....

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

imho moderation can not be light or harsh, just impartial. Everywhere and everytime

yosarianilives says:

11 months ago –

6 hours ago, ozzie said:

why not ? you had plenty of time as everyone else did. why dont you just be quiet. you seem to have lot to say about nothing ive noticed in many threads, for many things, so unless you have the intention, how about zip it for a while ? really, like many on here youre more talk than action !!!

Lol, I bought a house in the middle of the comp. But sure I wasn't too busy with other things to bench. You go through a home loan in under a month and tell me you have time for anything else.

Perhaps you should consider this before you hit submit on your comments on threads: Will this make me look like an absolute cock?

Of couse you've never done that before and are unlikely to start.

cbjaust says:

11 months ago –

On both the Windows 7 and Windows 10 I'm using for Challenger Round 2 Stage VI (AMD CPU+GPU) and Stage III (6-cores only) the latest SystemInfo 5.18.705 crashes out on GPU detection. The previous one, 5.17 is fine. This is on 1090T and every graphics card I've used (HD 3870 X2. HD 7970, R9 280X, RX Vega 56).

As an aside, my 2¢ is SystemInfo should be pretty recent (especially if it is bugged like I found) and also in the case of 3DMark it should be the most up to date one at the time of the start of the comp or newer if it has been updated in the meantime.

For the wrong background at least macsbeach98 used one which was in circulation more or less concurrently as the Cheapaz Chips one so it sort of serves the intended purpose of the rule but not to the letter.

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

14 hours ago, yosarianilives said:

Lol, I bought a house in the middle of the comp. But sure I wasn't too busy with other things to bench. You go through a home loan in under a month and tell me you have time for anything else.

Perhaps you should consider this before you hit submit on your comments on threads: Will this make me look like an absolute cock?

Of couse you've never done that before and are unlikely to start.

thats a pretty silly statement, proves my original point, .... and fyi, 2 houses ☺️

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

On 6/10/2019 at 6:40 AM, yosarianilives said:

You go through a home loan in under a month and tell me you have time for anything else.

Actually 😉 ... and yes - in under a month believe it or not. My first house, too. BUT... can totally understand not having time, too. Most insane thing I've ever gone through.

Ozzie is still the Ayatollah of Dick. If I ever meet him I'm going to give him a big hug and not let go until he says something nice.

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

1 hour ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

Actually 😉 ... and yes - in under a month believe it or not. My first house, too. BUT... can totally understand not having time, too. Most insane thing I've ever gone through.

Ozzie is still the Ayatollah of Dick. If I ever meet him I'm going to give him a big hug and not let go until he says something nice.

oh marco, stop it, youre making me blush with anticipation 😳

GeorgeStorm says:

11 months ago –

In hindsight I shouldn't have agreed to do this as it turned out I didn't have any time, and yes I set up some things wrong, and then got things wrong when moderating.

Leeg is trying to salvage things, I just did a simple if not valid no good, a lot of people took valid just to mean not lod etc.

I hadn't noticed the system info issues as I assumed 3dmark valid required latest system info again my bad.

If we want to follow the rules as written that's fine, just mean a lot more removed scores I believe, which seems a shame for a fun comp.

This was meant to be a fun comp, and so there can be flexibility, trying to give those who entered some voice, being rude isn't going to help anyone.

marco.is.not.80 says:

11 months ago –

IT WAS FUN!!!!!! THANK YOU GEORGE AND LEEG...

says:

11 months ago –

9 hours ago, marco.is.not.80 said:

Ozzie is still the Ayatollah of Dick. If I ever meet him I'm going to give him a big hug and not let go until he says something nice.

His big gun could buckle your hip

says:

11 months ago –

Congratulations to macsbeach98

This guy is the undisputed champion of effort overclocking fully deserved. Mr Consistent

jab383 says:

11 months ago –

Congrats to macsbeach98. Great job. It's been a good learning experience for me as I know it has been for others. Looking forward to a re-run next year.

superpatodonaldo says:

11 months ago –

3 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said:

In hindsight I shouldn't have agreed to do this as it turned out I didn't have any time, and yes I set up some things wrong, and then got things wrong when moderating.

Leeg is trying to salvage things, I just did a simple if not valid no good, a lot of people took valid just to mean not lod etc.

I hadn't noticed the system info issues as I assumed 3dmark valid required latest system info again my bad.

If we want to follow the rules as written that's fine, just mean a lot more removed scores I believe, which seems a shame for a fun comp.

This was meant to be a fun comp, and so there can be flexibility, trying to give those who entered some voice, being rude isn't going to help anyone.

without be rude, just to know: Processor is not recognized = VALID?

Btw @macsbeach98 is (was, and probably will be) the top, he deserves the victory

leeghoofd says:

11 months ago –

I pmed The silver whats going on with this... 7700K should be recognised by any 5.xx version...

cleaned up the wrong competion backgrounds, missing CPU-Z tabs and missing FM links

macsbeach98 says:

11 months ago –

6 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said:

In hindsight I shouldn't have agreed to do this as it turned out I didn't have any time, and yes I set up some things wrong, and then got things wrong when moderating.

Leeg is trying to salvage things, I just did a simple if not valid no good, a lot of people took valid just to mean not lod etc.

I hadn't noticed the system info issues as I assumed 3dmark valid required latest system info again my bad.

If we want to follow the rules as written that's fine, just mean a lot more removed scores I believe, which seems a shame for a fun comp.

This was meant to be a fun comp, and so there can be flexibility, trying to give those who entered some voice, being rude isn't going to help anyone.

George I think you done a good job of it seeing as it was your first comp😊

leeghoofd says:

11 months ago –

K received the how by The Silver, seems things are gonna stay like the current ranking is.

Lessons learned for next time for the crew:

Add benchmark and systeminfo version to be used to the compo rules
Monitoring tool is HWINFO only, showing also the time in the screenshot
Moderation from day one and constant follow up required

Time to close this chapter

ozzie says:

11 months ago –

well done to all, dont worry about it george, you did your best mate, hard job to do thats for sure, up and onwards i say, you did a damn good job ☺️

and for macsbeach, hes aussie, a champion bloke, hes tenacious and never gives up, and my friend and my mentor 👍

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