- HWBOT Team Cup 2018 - SC1: DDR1 - 3DMark2001 SE Socket 939 & Radeon HD2000 series
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Mr.Scott`s 3DMark2001 SE score
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38317 marks with ATi Radeon HD 2900 GT 256 Mb at 851/1200MHz
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CPU details
- Model: AMD Opteron 154 (Venus, s939) 'Venus'
- Cooling: Air (Custom)
- Cores: 3,160MHz(+12.86%)
Memory details
- Product: HyperX
- Cooling: Air (Custom)
- Type: 1024MB DDR SD-RAM
- Speed: @ 243MHz
- Timings: CL2.0 2-2-5 1T
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- Model: Radeon HD 2900 GT 256 Mb (R600) ATi
- Cooling: Air (Custom)
- Speed: 851MHz (+41.83%) / 1,200MHz (+50.00%)
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- Manufacturer: DFI
- Model: LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-D
- Cooling: Air (Custom)
- Chipset: nForce 4 Ultra
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The screenshot does not comply with the rules. The part highlighted in red is closed, which is obligatory by the rules.
Screenshot is fine.
Mods approved. You've already reported it 3 times. Don't do it again.
and are you special? not like everyone else? compliance with the rules for the design of screenshots is not for you?
in my team, such screenshots were deleted without explanation. just for inconsistency. are all equal in the community?
Daimons, you just kill your reputation with this. The score is in line with other results and all necessary settings etc are visible. Can you please advise what cheat can Mr.Scott hide behind that "highlightened in red" part? You can't? Then why report the score? Can you post a sample screeshot for the result that was deleted in the past for your team? I guess it is a bit different (hides settings etc).
TerraRaptor, your prejudiced attitude to the opinion of participants from the former USSR has long been clear to me. you initially do not believe what we say and definitely support the other side. this is unpleasant and incomprehensible.
it is precisely because of this attitude towards us that this dispute arose.
if there are rules for the design of the screenshot with the highlighted mandatory free areas - there are individuals who do not?
because there is nothing easier than re-shoot the screenshot according to the rules?
is this position of the moderators?
I want to understand - what did Mr.Scott lack to make a screenshot of the rules and why this result is special ???
So no evidence with screenshots of what was removed from your profile? I'm dead sure none of your results were removed just because the result window was somehow blocked - except the case where the settings of the 3DM01SE were hidden or the score itself was invisible.
Actually, you are wasting mods time by reporting the same score several times. My statement is that this result is fully okay.
Saying I' have " prejudiced attitude to the opinion of participants from the former USSR has long been clear to me " is just funny. The only time I've took part in discussion was a recent topic on cpuz bug. Go on and find another evedence I'm acting like an asshole to people from former USSR. Or that is just another claim you cannot confirm? FYI, I won't be on someone's side just because he is from my country/team etc. What I like about hwbot is that it is not about politics and here we have an examplary cooperation with guys all over the world (hello, guys from Iran!) no matter what happens in the world. That is you making drama thinking that someone has preconceptions because of your origin.
He did the screenshot that contains all the necassary information and nothing substantial is hidden. What's wrong with you?
here a certain result is discussed. the screenshot does not comply with the rules. this for laughing is not visible?All we need for verification is there, the benchmark which was ran, the bechmark settings, the score, the subresults and all the CPU-Z and GPU-Z details... move on...
you confirm the possibility of placing the windows on the highlighted red area for graphic tests, while the digital and information data will be readable?
or is this only relevant for this screenshot?
Your screenshot will normally be approved even if some bits of the 'needed' windows are covered as long as none of the important information is.
Everything that is required for validation is in the screenshot. I have no clue why you always report it
What about the rules? My result was blocked when another window a little covered red area? Here is screenshot from rules, look at the size of red area "3D marks window". And daimons reported now, not after the end of the competition as some users do-)
score is there, so it is in the subtests ... if you block some of the subtests or the test details than yep it will be blocked...
Do you still have your screenshot to compare?
Oh yeah? what important information is covered in this screenshot? dudes legs? I thought that the console with render time is more important.
I do not want to argue, for me it's humiliating. But either we look at the screenshot from the formal side of the rules or humanely. (Google translate)
Render is blocked.
Cannot block ANY of render in any CineBench.
Better to try to beat me benching rather than waste everybodys time reporting good subs.
The rule about not covering any of the rendered scene has been in place for a few months at the very least, if this run was done and subbed recently then there is simply no excuse.
Also, since the subject entry of this thread had already been determined as "Valid" yet it got reported more then once AFTER the staff determined it to be OK, that's not a good thing.
I do hope this wasn't a "If you can't beat 'em, report 'em" tactic because that's just not cool if so.
I've used that tactic before, but only because people are lazy when they sub intel hd graphics and don't bother to match to the correct gpu. Really hard to compete in low end hd graphics (sandy bridge) when the number one score was on a 4770k
That's a valid report though. Wrong category.
fasten it on the rules page.
or ask everyone to observe what is fixed there.
and in the news on the change and on the actual rules page.
We do not have crystal balls to understand the views of the moderators.
there are rules on the page. and we believe that they work for everyone alike.
I repeat - I have long had similar situations. the results were deleted. I checked with a screenshot of the rules and did not protest. apparently in vain.
fasten what ? Look at the example screenshot and the one from this submission, it has all that is demanded...
Do you want an exact replica of the example screenshot is that it ?
Do you re-read the rules every time you visit the site? I do not argue that formally the screenshot does not comply with the rules just like the screenshot in this submission. There were no notifications about changing the rules, neither on the main page nor on e-mail. If you see that the user does not know about the changes in the rules or does not know completely why not to say?
This is me you're asking about this ore someone else? In second round OSIBS Leeghoofd saw that the submission does not comply with the rules and instead of saying that there are inconsistencies and how the screenshot should look just removed from OSIBS. After this in his private messages, he explained the reason, I corrected everything, but he did not want to restore the result. Due to the removal of these two results, our team did not take the overall third place. And everyone knows that the results are right, but formally did not comply with the rules. Where did the normal relationships between people that were several years ago have gone? For me, this is wild.
Look I hate to quote stuff but this was your last pm I received:
I understand everything, but the essence of the competition is to get results. You know that my result was correct, I admit that the rules did not finish reading. Everyone can make mistakes. I did not follow the goal of deceiving someone. You need to be loyal. I got nitrogen on the last day of the competition and did not have time to understand the nuances. But if you track all the results you could not help seeing my wprime32 result with cpu-z screenshot. Rules must be respected, but in some cases, you can make a demolition. After such a simple desire to do something in the future OSBIS disappears...
My fault was that there was no time to follow up and some incorrect scores (screenshot wise) stayed in several compos too long...
in the rules, the example of the screenshot is highlighted in red, always free. if not free - the screenshot is incorrect.
this will remove all issues in the future.
Thanks for the explanation, I respect that.
to beat this result is not a problem. I decided not to participate in that competition.
To point 1, I DO check the rules when comps start to be sure I haven't overlooked anything. Even by doing that I've gotten it wrong before, instead of wasting effort griping I just made sure the next time it was done right. My first sub in the DDR part of this comp is the latest from me, was done and such BUT I forgot to include a closeup of my sticks. Even though all the rest was fine it wasn't a "Correct" entry so it had to be thrown out... And I'm good with that and will get it right the next time whenever this happens, doublechecking the rules being part of that process.
Like everything else they are subject to change and it's the bencher's responsibility to be aware of and to comply with said rules. This was established long ago as just being "How it is" so we all have to play by that.
To point 2, it's nothing about you - This was about Damion reporting a sub ALREADY said to be fine yet he continued reporting it..... Multiple times at that. This is just part of what I had said here earlier, this relating mainly to part 2 of this post: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/175335-hwbot-rev71-point-recalculation-in-progress/?do=findComment&comment=507791
I accepted what happened, but the sediment remained.
Thank you all for your opinion.
You are all adults and you can open the rules yourself and see the requirements for the design of screenshots.
Due to the fact that the official rules for creating screenshots for submitting the result now do not have any force, but are interpreted by the moderators "this is right" or "it's wrong" our team will not take part in the HWBOT Team Cup 2018.
So the issue seems to be the example screenshot showing larger areas as 'needed' than @Mr.Scotthas shown, however moderators have taken a common sense approach rather than following the example screenshot to a T (which I agree with), so perhaps @daimons would be pleased if the example screenshot was changed to show that only the number of the 3dmarks is really needed, rather than the larger area currently in the example screenshot? ( @Leeghoofd)
Or of course I could be completely mistaken haha.
Yes. I wrote about this two pages.
and common sense?
if there are rules and there is time to make a screenshot of the rules?
you need to either change the rules for everyone by specifying the required mandatory red field or demanding from all its compliance as it is now.
that's the only common sense.
I can see where you're coming from, since cinebench changed to 100% enforce the red box around the render whilst others are flexible. The rules/example screenshots could be updated and if so would need to be posted on the home page or similar so that all members will easily see they have been updated. But I think that might be something only @richba5tard might be able to do.
therefore, it is necessary to highlight exactly those areas that must be on the screenshot necessarily.
and all will be good and simple.
it does not give different interpretations of the same "violations"
Nice clarification, @GeorgeStorm!
I thought general sense was enough to understand that each requirement has been added for a reason and to understand those reasons. Why was CPU-Z memory tabs added, GPU-Z, 3DMark windows and certain details on them. And why was Cinebench enforced (I got hit by this one though didn't know the cheat before obviously).
But maybe since there are people that don't understand why certain windows are required and what info on them is essential, maybe it's worth specifying.
@daimons, I've got a whole lot of such screenshots: http://hwbot.org/submission/3834865_ (not full memory page)
http://hwbot.org/submission/3831473_ (not full CPU page)
http://hwbot.org/submission/3831472_ (not full motherboard page)
And a whole lot more, usually I don't put the full memory page on almost all my subs. Will you try to report them all?
Mods already said it is a 100% OK result, so move on Daimons, please waste your time benching, it's much more fun than digging others results.
Try to bench for the fun, not for the points.
It would be very nice and right if you took all your incorrectly designed screenshots yourself, since they themselves revealed it. After all, you are a person, to whom all are equal and to whose opinion they are listened.
You should be ashamed to take screenshots that do not comply with the rules that are not even in the news column, but by a direct link to the description of the test.
by the way. It repeatedly sounded that once again making a test is also a trivial matter. if you want everything to be by the rules, and not according to the opinion of the moderators or your own
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