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10 year and 8 months ago –

You are back! Nice score.

wytiwx 说：

10 year and 8 months ago –

You are back! Nice score.

 

Too busy to bin my Cellys. Have seen my 8524MHz in CPU-Z Records

Next time will try suiside 8533MHz, which need really high Vcore...

mllrkllr88 说：

9 year and 3 months ago –

Would you please post your pinmod pictures? The ones you did post over at XS are not showing up anymore. Is it similar to this one:

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9 year and 3 months ago –

Oh, that's my photo Well, maybe I can help you. I was doing it wrong here, because the most important thing is to realize that you have to cheat a motherboard, not a CPU. Insulation of these CPU pins is the key. you can also cut BSEL paths on motherboard PCB.

 

...or you can also just buy a "better" motherboard eg. P5E

 

 

Sorry I can't find my data "BSEL MOD", but will try to find those in next week. Maybe I can translate something usefull to english I'll let you know

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9 year and 3 months ago –

try to copy-paste photo links to http://archive.org/web/

mllrkllr88 说：

9 year and 2 months ago –

Thanks for the reply! I insulated the CPU pins with double sided sticky tape then put aluminium foil on the tape. I did the same mod as you, but it does not work...here is my picture.

 

thanks for your help!

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9 year and 2 months ago –

OK. I had to do some research. I was doing this ~2 years ago. My biggest question was:

1 - can I connect all the pins (on motherboard socket) between BSELx and VCC (or VSS)?

2 - is insulation of some pins critical?

3 - are there differences between (pinouts) LGA775 "P45-revision" and that older (eg. Asus Commando LGA775 "P965-revision")?

4 - what if I short some pins on CPU grid array?

 

 

 

 

1 - I still don't know

2 - I still don't know, but I think it is

3 - I thing there are some differences, maybe this is why my 133->166 bsel was working (or just ignored!) on Asus Commando, and Tpower I45 was'nt working with this mod.

4 - you don't want to short out GND and VCC pins. Maybe connecting some signal pins would not kill motherboard or CPU, but just be carefull.

 

 

 

It also turned out that I have never done this mod on Biostar Tpower. It was 5 or 6 attempts. I don't know exacly if was my EP45-UD3R able to run with correctly working mod.

 

 

 

I have actually a good idea to do your BSEL mod, but:

- it's possible to destroy your mobo

- you would have to use soldering iron

 

 

 

but first post the bottom side of your's motherboard socket 775. Than you should just

1.insulate BSEL pins on the CPU

2.shrr exact vias and solder 2 wires: "BSEL0" via to GND (maybe use 100 Ohm resistor to avoid eventual short circuit) and "BSEL1" to VCC (vCore - just capacitor)

 

disadvantage of this sollution is the permanent construction and the possibility to wires could fall off (so it's nice sollution to glue wires to the PCB (using "gelatinous" glue, not that solid one)).

 

 

bottom - just find out, which vias are the BSEL pins

(you can use ohm-meter (multimeter with beeep option would be the best )

 

 

 

DO NOT USE THIS CRAP:

transformer soldering iron

 

 

 

you better use this:

resistive soldering iron

 

 

important advices:

 

 

.absolutely critical is to do this mod with your tongue at a right angle

.use a red wire to VCC and black wire to connect GND signals. Otherwise the electrons will not know what to do.

 

 

 

//EDIT//

have you measured resistance between pins? Maybe you have shorted something? Maybe it's eg. 4kOhm between grids and it's not enough to make motherboard think that it's a HIGH signal or LOW signal? Feel free to ask.

 

///Still if I was on your situation, I would rather buy X38/X48 based Asus motherboard with DDR3 support //

mllrkllr88 说：

9 year and 2 months ago –

I am an engineering technician and I solder very small scale surface mount components all day long and I can use the $10K soldering station at work.

Here is my mb:

 

I am looking to get a used board. I have a deal on a Rampage Formula for $100, but I would like to get a P5E3...they seem to be very rare tho. What board would you recommend?

ogblaz 说：

9 year and 2 months ago –

Hi, Iam about to attack celeron 347 for my frequency record, I have a Asus P5Q Pro turbo, whats with this pinmod? Do I need one, I tried searching online but found nothing. Thanks for your help.

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9 year and 2 months ago –

If you do a research on HWBot scores database, it turns out that only good choose are Asus motherboards with DDR3 and X48 (or X38) chipset. Try get P5E3 Premium, P5E64 WS Evolution, P5E3 Pro, P5E3 Deluxe (X38) or Rampage Extreme (afaik not Cedar mill support).

 

Here in Poland there's a very popular website Allegro, there's a few of P5E3 xx motherboards. LINK (1 USD ~= 4 zł (4 PLN) ). So here you can have this (P5E3 series with ddr3) mobo for ~60 bucks

 

X48 has better IMC (integrated memory controller) than X38 (well, it's not that big difference, but if you pushing performance to the limits, it's just better).

DDR3 are better when compare to DDR2 (in general, but when old CPU, it could be even equal performance, look at P4's scores)

 

 

 

If you are engineer, and if you have expirience with SMD soldering, you should'nt have any problems finding those pins, i'm too lazy to look at scheme now It's not that hard to do this mod. Just scratch lacquer on the proper vias and make the two of them (bsel0 and 1) them solderable. Then connect wires in order high or low signal. At the end just insulate BSEL pins on CPU (between CPU dot and motherboard socket) and it's it. It could be a problem with starting CPU overclocked +50%, so it's worth to consider vCore mod or VID pinmod to add some voltage.

 

 

@ogblaz - BSEL mod helps to "cheat" your motherboard to think that your Celeron D Cedar Mill CPU is not 533 FSB, but 800 FSB. P45 motherboards doesn't want to work in general with 533 FSB CPUs. If you don't want to spend your money do this mod. I prefer however buy a new motherboard, P5E3 Premium would be the best.

zenith_sym 说：

10 months ago – Hi mate I was seen your Bsel mod guide on "xtremesystems" After trying multiple times with several 347 and 352, It was unsuccessfully stuck at (e9 / boot block compatible ) I have these mobos: p5q deluxe, maxi 2 formula, p35dq6, x38 maximus extreme, asus commando, p5b deluxe and I hope get me through this problem can you help me?

wytiwx 说：

10 months ago –

16 hours ago, zenith_sym said:

Hi mate I was seen your Bsel mod guide on "xtremesystems" After trying multiple times with several 347 and 352, It was unsuccessfully stuck at (e9 / boot block compatible ) I have these mobos: p5q deluxe, maxi 2 formula, p35dq6, x38 maximus extreme, asus commando, p5b deluxe and I hope get me through this problem can you help me?

Only P5Q-D and M2F P45 mobo need BSEL 533 to 800 mod, your other mobos don't. You have to confirm firstly CPU can do 50% OC by default Vcore.