The end of Asrock's AGP supremacy?

When it comes to overclocking, everyone knows that the mainboard is an essential part of the setup. A guaranteed well-overclockable mainboard offers you a more stable and more predictable environment when pushing components such as processor or videocard to the absolute limit. In each generation of hardware, we can find a few samples that simply stand out against the rest. For LGA775, for instance, this would be the Rampage Extreme which has been used to achieve over 1800(!) top-5 spots.

For the AGP videocard generation, there's actually a collection of mainboards that apply for this 'legendary mainboard'-status: the Asrock PT880 family: 775Dual-VSTA, 4CoreDual-SATA2, 4CoreDual-SATA2 R2.0 and 4CoreDual-VSTA. Being totally low-end and using a completely outdated chipset (even in their days), these four boards total an amazing 1109 top-5 rankings. Why? Compatibility!

The reign of Asrock in the AGP category might be over, though. I came across this (5y old) advertisement a few days ago ...


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Belgium Massman says:

Didn't find one on ebay ... yet.

Russian Federation Antinomy says:

Yeah, I've been looking for this one on Ebay time from time for last 3 years. :D And it's not the only adapter of such kind.

Austria Turrican says:

i have one ;):D

Russian Federation Antinomy says:

Lucky bastard :D does it have compatibility problems? :)

Austria Turrican says:

yeah, not every agp card is supported.
you have to do "trail and error".

hmm, i think i should test some cards...

but the problem is that those adapters are super rare, so a agp asrock board is still the better option.

Christian Ney says:

Turrican said: yeah, not every agp card is supported.
you have to do "trail and error".

hmm, i think i should test some cards...

but the problem is that those adapters are super rare, so a agp asrock board is still the better option.


I am sure you are going to do performing test between i7 (PCIe -> AGP) and C2D (4coredualvista/sata -> AGP).
I am right ? to show us if there is a difference of using an AGP board with C2D or i7 with adapter.

;) If it's not already done :D

Please :o

Slovenia tiborrr says:

Karl: Try HD3850 AGP card in that adapter ;)

Austria Turrican says:

tiborrr said: Karl: Try HD3850 AGP card in that adapter ;)


ok. i'll try it on the weekend and some other cards as well. :)

btw. :D


Christian Ney says:

nice, I only have got a PCIe to PCIe card

-.o

United States 1BadMoJoe says:

I've heard it support nvidia cards mostly, some ati cards are a no go and there is about 3% reduced performace from the interface card. Which should be overcome by a faster fsb setup. I just seen one a week ago and passed up on buying it :(

United Kingdom Dualist says:

Nice pics Karl.

The ass-rocks...!!!

Slovenia tiborrr says:

Karl, I hope you are willing to lend this device, I still have my R9500@9700 sitting around :P

says:

We also got one here in Denmark :) But i nearly don't have any cards that works with it. It take some from Nvidia 4xxx series and all from Nvidia 5xxx + 6xxx series with AGP interface :) Haven't found any ATI cards that works with it.

Johni5 says:

:)A have 5-6. I pay 10 euro

Belgium HybridChiller says:

i know where they are still for sale, but they work only on a few vga's

Poland DEVILEK says:

Where ? :P

Ukraine cyclone says:

Buy one for me! -)

So.. any performance comparison tests?
And if I'm not mistaken Albatron showed the prototype of this card long time ago.. but didn't push it to the market then.

Belgium HybridChiller says:

fx5200
mx4000
fx5700LE
6200AGP
fx5700
fx5900xt
6800

and some more supported vga's.

it's good when you find Albatron vga's with AGP on, they work.

I found one of this ATOP card and costs 70euro without sending.

So is it the trouble worth to bench some AGP vga's on example a SR-2 setup ?
Cpu power enough then.

Belgium Massman says:

Think this was 2004/2005 or so ... not sure. I'm also not really sure about the performance. Maybe the card becomes such a bottleneck that 3D performance actually drops?

Belgium HybridChiller says:

found a nice pic of it :


Belgium HybridChiller says:

Mine is now on it's way. it ordered

Denmark riska says:

I have one to it only supports some nvidia cards and it wont work proberly under win7 64bit but under win xp it is fine i found mine in a austrailian it shop on the web for 20 euros it was the last one they had and they had it for years

Belgium HybridChiller says:

i got one to now from australia.

Belgium HybridChiller says:

my new toy is in now, let's try soon on SR-2 for 3dmark06 and/or 3dmark vantage lol :








Austria Turrican says:

have fun. i'm looking forward how it works with your board. ;)

Belgium HybridChiller says:

first try on SB, not that it kills my SR-2 like hell hahahaha,

do you have scores with the ATOP card T ?

Austria Turrican says:

only a few test scores, but nothing uploaded.

Belgium HybridChiller says:

why not ?

doesn't work it good ?

Austria Turrican says:

mostly because gpu-z recognized the gf5/6 not correct. one example: when i put my geforce fx 5800ultra (the dustbuster :D) into the adapter, gpu-z recongnizes it as geforce fx5900 pci-e. that's problem with all gf5/6 cards. i benched all my agp cards with the asrock board, because i'm sure the adapter results would get reported because of "pci-e" in "agp" category. ;) the adapter is a rare piece if hardwere to own, but useless for newer cards imho. trust me, i've play weeks with it. if you try any unsupported card, be very carefull not to fry the adapter. ;)

Belgium HybridChiller says:

so if i put a FX5200 on it, and it show something strange in GPUZ, then i make pic of the Vga with the ATOP bridge card and submitt it with proof that it is that vga lol ;)

Austria Turrican says:

iirc a fx5200 will be recognized as pcx5300. for me it doesn't matter because i have all geforce fx pci-e cards as well. :D but it's useless anyway. those old cards (geforce fx) are on my qx9770@5ghz with the asrock agp board already completely gpu limited. newer cards as the supported gf5/6 cards are the interesting ones. ;)

Germany teurorist says:

mhhh i orderd a asrock and have 2 qx9650 here :) maybe there is more then 5ghz poossible on the asrock ? i hope it wont boost so much :D

Belgium Jerre says:

necro bump: who has one of those ATOP cards? And is willing to sell it for a reasonable price ;)

Belgium HybridChiller says:

sold ine, as i found a shop that still has some in a dark corner in magazin

Belgium Jerre says:

What corner wpould that be? ��

Belgium HybridChiller says:

i believe i can get one new in box from a shop, is the last one. i'm going to buy i think. He has also a few albatron vga's lying around.

Denmark riska says:

You can buy mine what would you like to offer for it?

Poland d3mox says:

riska said: You can buy mine what would you like to offer for it?


Tell me on PM what is the price :P

Belgium Jerre says:

a picture as a token of remembrance? Absolutely no idea what it's worth - i did the necro bump, dibs on the card ;-)

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