HWBOT Implements New Community Forum Platform

If you are a regular forum user here on HWBOT you will no doubt have realized that there have been a few problems lately. The essence of the problem lies in the fact that the vBulletin v3.8 platform was somewhat outdated and therefore vulnerable to attack. To improve the community forum we are in the process of implementing a new forum platform.

For the time being, the old forum is still accessible and works as usual but we have begun implementing a wholly platform based on Invision Community software. You can go ahead and check it out here: https://community.hwbot.org/. All users who made one or more posts on the old forum will be able to login at the new one using the same login and password, however we do recommend you change your password for security reasons. The new forum platform is secured by a HTTPS protocol.

We have looked into migration tools to help move all the old content to the new forum, alas there are no perfect solutions with most solutions encountering formatting issues. To help migrate the important threads and posts (guides, how tos, advice and other generally useful content) we are asking users to volunteer to help with this process. Our first priority in terms of migration will be contest support and general HWBOT support threads. If you would like to help with the migration process, please email myself (stewart@hwbot.org) or Massman (pieter@hwbot.org). All help on this matter is massively appreciated as always.

By the end of the year we aim to shut down the old forum and will probably make it ‘read only’ at some point before then. Any and all questions can be aired here on this thread on the new HWBOT Forum.


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Canada WhiteWulfe says:

So uhm, what happened to this new forum? It doesn't pull up.

France Wimpzilla says:

Same here, it get stuck loading the page: "Performing a TSL handshake to..."

Australia newlife says:

Not going to use until full migration of old forum and will happily stop using hwbot if it doesn't happen because the fact you don't want to with the amount of info that is going to be lost is beyond a joke

And just to throw it out there OCAU recently migrated to XenForo without issue from vBulletin

United States yosarianilives says:

Anyone asking about the website I heard from Websmile that they're looking into it. All the people who can fix it went to OCWC and were unavailable to contact :D

Belgium richba5tard says:

Someone else did the setup so I can't troubleshoot it right now, but I suggest we move to invision forum as soon as we have developed the custom code to integrate it with the engine. Right now commenting on a score or news creates a forum topic, which is neat.

I see invision also support migrating the vbulletin database, which we definitely need to do.

United States bigblock990 says:

richba5tard said: Someone else did the setup so I can't troubleshoot it right now, but I suggest we move to invision forum as soon as we have developed the custom code to integrate it with the engine. Right now commenting on a score or news creates a forum topic, which is neat.

I see invision also support migrating the vbulletin database, which we definitely need to do.


This is great news. Seems like the biggest gripe of the new forum was that we were going to lose the wealth of information located here.

Romania suzuki says:

Can you make it work with tapatalk,the old forum ?
It's a pain in the ass to acces it from mobile browser.

Germany Hyperhorn says:

Either I missed it or Hwbot didn't communicate it, but what is actually the reason to not *simply* (I know it's easier said than done) upgrade to a new Vbulletin version, but consider a whole new forum software?

I haven't checked the pricings of the alternatives, but in view of the ressources (time) needed for getting used to a new forum software, move existing content, bugfixing etc. I have a hard time to believe it makes sense from an economic standpoint. Also I'm pretty sure a lot of community members would be willing to chip in some bucks to save you unnecessary work and obtain a working, secure forum with recent security patches and a look and features they are (more) used to (than a completely new forum). As far as I can see, Hwbot doesn't use a lot of plug-ins/(optical) customizations that are bound to Vbulletin 3, so as a long-time user of Vbulletin, what is your view on Vbulletin 5/4?

Belgium richba5tard says:

I checked out vbulletin 4/5 but I really don't like it subjectively. That, and it is no more effort to migrate to invision than to vbulletin 4+.

Pieter chose invision, and I must agree it seems like a good choice as the default look & feel is user friendly, and in contrary to vbulletin it offers a decent API to integrate it. Invision license is not free but affordable.

Antarctica Trouffman says:

Could a clear statement be made ?

Some content was partly (manually) transfered to the new forum as it was stated this would be the new place to go but the new forum does not load.

What could we expect about the following :
- Content created on the new forum can be accessed ?
- Content from the old forum (this one) could be migrated ?
- An expected time frame about this migration ?

Thank you :)
NB: good luck with such migration, it is usually painful :)

Belgium richba5tard says:

1) i'm still waiting on PJ to send me the license details of invision, so I can recreate the forums properly
2) according to invision the migration from vbulletin 3 is possible without major issues, but I can't test it before 1) is done
3) first prio after rev7 go live, which is "this month"

Belgium richba5tard says:

I'm currently converting all vbulletin data to invision power board. It seems to work fine, but takes a whopping 48h to complete.

Belgium richba5tard says:

A new test version is available here:
http://community.uat.hwbot.org/

It was mainly a test to see how well I can migrate some forums. It works well, just takes a lot of time/effort.

Australia ozzie says:

both links dont work for me

Belgium richba5tard says:

http://community.hwbot.org is indeed not available yet but you don't see http://community.uat.hwbot.org ?

websmile says:

Second link works for me

United Kingdom GeorgeStorm says:

websmile said: Second link works for me


Same.

United States bigblock990 says:

uat forum link working fine here :)

Antarctica Trouffman says:

richba5tard said: 1) i'm still waiting on PJ to send me the license details of invision, so I can recreate the forums properly
2) according to invision the migration from vbulletin 3 is possible without major issues, but I can't test it before 1) is done
3) first prio after rev7 go live, which is "this month"


Thanks for the details,
But content created on the previously "new" forum is gone ? (I did recreated and re-written most of the OBT posts, so having a copy of these would be good. :))

Belgium richba5tard says:

Trouffman said: Thanks for the details,
But content created on the previously "new" forum is gone ? (I did recreated and re-written most of the OBT posts, so having a copy of these would be good. :))


The community.uat.hwbot.org server is a test run of the new invision pb forum. Not all content is migrated (as it takes a very long time and requires manual intervention), but we can migrate all content in the final forum.

France Wimpzilla says:

Works again here also, good job!

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