HWBOT Poll: What to Do with PCMark05?

PCMark05 is one of the most tweakable benchmarks around. In fact, a case could be argued that it’s been tweaked and hacked so many ways it almost ceases to be a relevant performance benchmark. It is an issue which tends divide opinion, which is why HWBOT Community Leader Christian Ney has setup a poll which allows HWBOT members to vote and decide what happens to it. Here’s an excerpt from a related forum post from Christian:

Okay, lets finally address this tweakfest benchmark once and for all. I see two possibilities:

Update rules: (and apply them retroactively)

Remove the 220 MB/s limit and disallow any "tweak" that boosts a subtest by more than xx%. A clear list of allowed tweaks an disallowed tweaks will be made.

Pro: - It will still get hardware points. - It will be moderated/moderatable.

Con: - Unfair for old results, those with 220 MB/s limit will most likely be beaten and those with previously allowed "tweaks" will be blocked.

Downgrade it to beta benchmark:

- No hardware points.

- Not really moderated.

If you have an opinion about the future of PCMark05, head over to the forum and make your vote count.


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Christian Ney says:

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Okay, lets finally address this tweakfest benchmark once and for all.

I see two possibilities:

- Update rules: (and apply them retroactively)
Remove the 220 MB/s limit and disallow any "tweak" that boosts a subtest by more than xx%. A clear list of allowed tweaks an disallowed tweaks will be made.
Pro:
- It will still get hardware points.
- It will be moderated/moderatable.
Con:
- Unfair for old results, those with 220 MB/s limit will most likely be beaten and those with previously allowed "tweaks" will be blocked.

- Downgrade it to beta benchmark:
- No hardware points.
- Not really moderated.

Chile Samsarulz says:

Option 2 for me :).

Australia zeropluszero says:

Place benchmark in bin along with maxmem

Christian Ney says:

You have to vote in the poll, not comment :p

Norway knopflerbruce says:

Don't touch ma pointz!

You could always have a note somewhere on the main pages for the benchmark itself that the benchmark is what it is in terms of being a tweakfest, and that it will not be a high priority task for mods to investigate results that are questionable, but not obviously wrong. Then whoever participates knows what he/she is getting into.

Bulgaria I.nfraR.ed says:

Where's the option "I don't care"? :p

South Africa Oj0 says:

It is irrelevant to me as I absolutely hate the benchmark, but voted option 2 as a lot of people poured their heart and soul into it

Chile Samsarulz says:

Have some submits but preffer to just turn the page with PCMark05. Had lot of fun with folks in the days with global points. Will vote in poll. Thanks CNey! Enviado desde mi A0001 mediante Tapatalk

United States Mr.Scott says:

Voted do not update.

Australia macsbeach98 says:

knopflerbruce said: Don't touch ma pointz!


Agreed.

Does anyone still run it these days?
I used to like the bench even bought Acards for it but I havent run it for ages since the cheats wrecked it for everyone.
Its not worth setting up for on modern hardware no one runs it and you only get 2 hardware points for a first with a 6700k there has only been 8 subs for it.

So really its not going to make much difference either way

Christian Ney says:

Thanks guys, 78 to go :D

Chile Samsarulz says:

What is the minimum of votes to take a decision? Enviado desde mi A0001 mediante Tapatalk

Christian Ney says:

Would be nice to have at least 100

Norway knopflerbruce says:

...and if the answer is "no change", another poll will pop up later - until there are enough people who want it gone. Might as well do it right away if no "no change" decision is final.

Christian Ney says:

Sigh Poll will be purged from guest votes. I don't know why unregistered users (guests) can actually vote. We will disable that.

Germany der8auer says:

It has always been the same with PCM05 in the past. If you want to change something you simply have to go for it.

United States filmbot says:

Never got into it specifically for the reason of the amount of work, knowledge and money needed and then to be able to be cheated after doing all that, no thanks. And it never helped that it seemed ever year or so, there was another discussion about it in one form or another, just never seemed worth it.

Send it down, keep the current rules so whoever wants to still bench it can at least "compare" it to past results.

OT- Maybe we should also clean up this thread :p

Belarus max1024 says:

PCMark05 is good benchmark like 04 to, it is necessary to leave points for it.

Germany Blackbolt says:

pls no update rules :(

United States jpmboy says:

downgrade to beta and replace with full points for TimeSpy. Put a DX12 bench on the roster.

Christian Ney says:

Guest votes have been removed.

Christian Ney says:

Well, looks like the result is pretty clear.

Australia ozzie says:

leave it be

Russian Federation Remarc says:

pcm05 and pcm04 (strange why not have pcm02) for old system,do not touch their points,in the list and so very little of benchs for 486-p3 cpu...i agree with rules update and with correction allowed tweaks

Argentina siouxx says:

Many of us spend much time trying to understand pcmark, it wouldn't be nice to see disappear points overnight.

Norway knopflerbruce says:

I agree to that. I will definately lose my #1 HW Masters spot if they're disabled next week. If the points will be gone I hope it's possible to set a date in the future, for example at the very end of this year.

says:

i miss it......so fun doing it!!! with few points it has nosense:(

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