HWBOT Community Holds Fundraiser for Pulse88 & Rosty
A week or so ago news emerged that Dimastech had officially gone out of business and was filing for bankruptcy in Italy. . Dimastech was a popular vendor of phase-change cooling systems and benchtables among other things. In the wake of the company’s demise however some overclockers were unluckily worse off, having paid up from for products that were ultimately not delivered - an outcome that has had a particularly negative outcome for two overclockers in particular; Pulse88 and Rosty.
Considering the unfortunate nature of the circumstances outlined above, the HWBOT community has responded brilliantly. TheMadDutchDude, also known as Brendon, has kicked off a fundraising initiative on the HWBOT forum, essentially facilitating a way for members of the HWBOT community to make cash contributions to a fund which will then be divided equally between Pulse88 and Rosty. It’s not entirely clear how far the fundraiser will be able to compensate all losses, but it hoped that will considerably soften the blow.
It’s great to see the overclocking community respond in this way. As a relatively new member myself, it is touching to see so many members actively trying to put right a situation that has made so many feel aggrieved.
To make a donation to the fund simply follow the instructions posted by The MadDutchDude on the HWBOT forum here.
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Hey guys,
In case you haven't been following, Dimastech has now filed for bankruptcy which is only affecting the Italian side of the company, apparently. However, a few of our members have had their hard earned cash taken from them with numerous promises where this, that and the other will be happening. Nothing ever surfaced from it and they are worse off for it. We are a community, and therefore, one member on here, who goes by the name of George, thought a fundraiser would be a good idea to show what the community is all about. Unfortunately, due to personal reasons, he is no longer able to do so. That's where I am stepping in to try and help out.
We already have a list of people who are willing to donate to help the two members affected in this ordeal. My thinking is that it should all go into a pot and then shared out equally between both members. That's the only way that I see it being fair. Yes, one lost more than the other, but it has to remain fair and not divided up in a 70/30 split as an example.
I will put up my hand and organise the financial side of things.
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Update:
I will be sending out PMs this weekend to all of those on the list, with the exception of one member who already contacted me.
To be entirely transparent, you are welcome to get in touch with both members yourself, or you can get in touch with me and I will distribute the funding equally. I will be taking the cash into my PayPal and then splitting it 50/50 to both members. I do ask, however, that if you send it to them directly, that you can give me a figure to add to the overall total. I will (or won't, your choice!) add the donation amount to your name so that you get the credit that you deserve.
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Here is a list of the current generous souls whom are willing to give a little something back to the community out of their own pockets. (Thank you for the list, GK!)
Running Total
Google Docs Spreadsheet to keep track (for you guys!) of the donations;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c24qpRYqfjvEa35cwzh1IGMLxeLXtz7Vh1Ousp1tUdw/edit?usp=docslist_api
Current total sent to each member:
€450 EUR (€900 total!)
Current approximate total:
>$1500 USD!!!!!!! (Accurate as of 08/18/16)
(Note: I work nights, and I am being absolutely swarmed with PMs from everyone (due to my own mistake, admittedly...) which is making it difficult to keep up. I will update the spreadsheet below as fast as I possibly can. Don't worry, no one has been forgotten about, and no one will be left behind.
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Contributors
01) Splave
02) Elkim & PKBO
03) Kimandsally
04) George
05) SamsaRulz
06) First anonymous member
07) Second anonymous member
08) Johnd0e
09) Bullant
10) TheMadDutchDude
11) Alex@ro
12) der8auer
13) Xtreme Addict
14) Leeghoofd
15) barbonenet
16) bartx
17) Third anonymous member
18) dhenzjhen
19) Massman
20) M.Beier
21) Wizerty
22) Christian Ney
23) knopflerbruce
24) websmile
25) CAxVIPER
26) Trouffman
27) riska
28) GtiJason
If you, like the 6th and 7th member (currently) would like to remain anonymous, please PM me and state that you wish to do so. I don't need a reason and I will respect your privacy.
So, come on! Let's be a real community and help these two guys out who had the unfortunate misfortune of dealing with Dimas as things were headed south. You are more than welcome to read through the thread, which spans over more than a year, if you wish to do so over here: http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=138578
Update (07/28/16)
There's one thing which I had refrained from saying (to try to keep it calm in here), but I have to say it now as I feel it is only fair. Sorry, my friend. It's long overdue!
To all whom are unaware;
All of this would never have happened without the idea stemming from my good friend George. He was not recognised in the initial post (WHAT!?) for his efforts and I would like to give a big shout out to the fella from Greece. Thank you, George. You're a great friend and you have huge influences upon the people that you reach. I look forward to (hopefully) meeting up with you in the not too distant future where we can share a drink and a laugh.
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Excellent Bren, Excellent
Great initiative,i am in too.
count me in
Count me in
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Thank you, guys! You've been added to the list.
It's for Pulse88 & Rosty only, both well know in our community and both of which whom shown documentation in the recent past. Andrea from Dimaswack even discussed the amounts owed and that it was 2 guys, these are those two guys. Please keep this thread about what it's intended for, be respectful of the two guys who've suffered because of this and ban the trolling. I'm starting to believe mrhorse = andreadimastech. think about it.
K in... good initiative:)
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Added to the list - thank you!
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I will help, maybe one day someone will do the same for me!
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Count me in too
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Big thanks to both of you. You're on the list.
I've updated the OP. Please make sure you read it. I'll be in touch with each and every one of you this weekend.
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Another anonymous member on the list...
What a great community that we are a part of, hey?
Thanks Brendan to continue what George began
. Hope more members sign for the list!
Regards
This was a super idea George had and Brendan for sorting out an account for it, really makes you feel part of something when people help each other like this.
Forgot to post previously.
Count me in
How much? We take the sum and divide it with number of contributors?
When? Before/after trial?
Second part:
MR.Horse, why? Are you retarded, or simply just like being a d*ck? Dimas quoted the amounts and said he would refund in the other thread - but usual Dimas BS actually following up.... You are being a twat.
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My humble understanding is, that it does not matter how much each individual contributes.
It is not even necessary to mention ( IMHO ).
It is the gesture of all that counts and that some money will return to Pulse88 and Rosty pockets.
Cool cool
Otherwise, it'll end up with ~100E/person as it looks now.
Anyhow, if people contribute 25E/person, that will still do quite a bit, atleast it'll help.
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We will divide it up equally, 50/50, from all contributors, unless we think there's a better way? I am not sure on the exact figures. Can someone please enlighten me? It may be better to do it on a 60/40 ratio (or something like that) if it is a slightly different amount that each were owed. All proceedings will go to the two guys that we are raising funds for.
Please let me know what you guys think. We all want this to be a community effort, not to be decided by one guy (me) or another.
None of us are not asking that you guys (the community) make up the €1800 or whatever it is. We are asking, as a community, that we just put something towards the two souls who got robbed. A contribution, no matter how big or small, is very graciously received.
I for one am not expecting to make up the full amount, but a solid chunk of it would be a great achievement from us all.
You may want to consider using Google Wallet since paypal is going to be nice and take 3% from every person then another 3% when you send it to the two of them. Google doesn't charge fees as long as you aren't using a debit or credit card to pay and it is coming straight from a bank account.
I don't have a lot to contribute but I can throw in a few dollars.
Last thing, since dimastech has filed for bankruptcy is there a way for them to file a claim against any assets the company has to get the money back?
May I suggest to make an special achievement for this? We have one for contributing to hwbot, and this might happen again. After all, human kind has achievehunting in its nature, it might bring another bucks to the pot
And whats with the main page announcement? There are also social networks and stuff...
// my team mate PKBO will also throw some bucks, but I'll pay for him, since he doesn't know paypal
what a noob
It's outrageous this initiative is not being promoted as it should, it's outrageous that Dimastech was not shamed in public when it was already clear what he did. But i guess if no money can't be gained from things like this, they are not worth the effort,
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Technically yes.
As I mentioned in the other thread, we've already reached out to the authorities to see if a claim can be made. If so, hopefully Rosty and Pulse will be able to recover their money from Dimas without the community having to cover.
The hearing is on September 20, so there's still some time left.
I never heard that anybody received money from bankrupted company.
I was cheated twice by ordinary people in Poland in auction service - Allegro.
Despite that they're both convicted (jail + they have to return money, that was written in sentence which I received) and it was within one country, nobody ever contacted me. I only received money, because Allegro has an insurance policy up to 2500 euro, but I had to go the police and report a fraud.
If it was a company, they have probably a lot more debt to pay including salaries for people, invoices, rent etc.
It really depends on the situation. As I posted in the other thread: "the company structure is an SNC meaning he is fully liable for bankruptcy. If he owns a home, it may be seized to pay off debts."
At the moment we have no specific information. It certainly is a long shot, but worth the effort considering the situation.
What a mess of a situation
Has everyone heard of "The XS phase jinx?"
As @bartx says, thinking of that these two members will be compensated the way you say @Massman is pure naivity. And even if there is a chance, it will take maybe decade, or two. The world doesn't work that way.
I feel kinda sad how little of members of this community are willing to help, because I'm sure, that what holds whole OC together is the community itself. Maybe its too soon to make any assumptions, but any support like headline on hwbot web, facebook and other channels may help alot. Or is there any specific reason why it cannot happen?
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Unfortunately, what Elkim says is absolutely correct.
What is even worse, is the fact that the expenses to go after so small claims, are not justified.
Forty years of experience on the streets have taught me that precaution is better than therapy.
And even then, if a small mishap happens, the legal system moves so slowly ( and with high costs ) that it is better to write off the damage, than chase a ghost.
What's that?
A disproportionate % of phase builders who tried to "go commercial" and "started out" on XS, had everything fall apart or slowly descended into scamming people.
Saw Elkim's tag on FB. Yep, would like to help out a bit, so count me in.
Yes, I remember that one.
It wasn't just limited to XS.
No particular reason other than waiting for the conclusion of the hearing.
I understand that it may get more exposure via web/social. I'll ask the editor to put up a news item. :celebration:
Once again; Count me in
Looks like many people want to join in, making it quite realistic to get the full amount.
Count me in.
BUT please, if too many people give money ( i'm still dreaming
) and you collect too much , then give it to charity.
Do not buy hardware for a contest or gift for the community...
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Both Brendan ( TheMadDutchDude ) and myself will keep absolute transparency of this procedure.
A full report will be issued PRIOR to any distribution of the money collected, as well as possible expenses ( PayPal - for example ).
Rosty and Pulse88, being the two final recipients, will be able to verify how
much money ended up in their hands ( pockets:D).
Hope this is satisfactory.
I am sure my friend Brendan will chime in later, as being the main controller of this.
Thank you.
Faith in community restored.
@TheMadDutchDude, to answer your question, I thought about this:
If less than 1600€ are raised: Do 50/50.
If more than 1600€ are raised: Give 800 to Rosty and the rest to Pulse88.
If more than 1855€ (800+1000+55(paypal3%)) are raised: Stop the fundraising.
How much as been donated right now?
Ho, forgot to mention, count me in
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My apologies if I missed your name previously. Thank you!
Thank you, Wiz.
That's a great idea! We will have to have a poll to decide where it is going, if it ever reaches that stage.
Thanks Christian!
As of right now, I know that $300 ($150 each) has been raised by one particular member, which has been sent directly to each of them.
Thanks for being the first to actually reply to my question as well! I think you've got the right idea, as I follow a similar train of thought.
I will PM those on the list now.
About time I paid this forum a visit
I'll chip in a few buxx
Splave, extremely large of you, nothing shy of amazing.
Well played.
Everyone else; I just responded to the PM - what do you guys think, we just add random amount, or should we do 20,30,40,50 each? By end of this week, we will be 30+, thats 750 Euro if we contribute 25 Euro each.... Added with the amazing deed by Splave, the rest will come fairly fast too
What say you?
Splave, absolutely fabulous people like you are very rare well done.
I think each person can determine the amount they want to donate. Maybe someone can only afford $10, and someone else can afford $50. We don't want to exclude anyone who is willing to help
You are completely right
Just donate what you can afford. Lets keep it simple
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Regards
Just had thought about overclockers nature. I'm curious if we will be witness of "keep pushing" in this case, also as we are used to with results
I donated a bit, since my "new" Ford screwed my over few days ago with CR fuel system
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I am currently at work (have been for the last 8 hours) ...
The current donation total sits at £168 according to my PayPal. It is held in three different currencies, but that's what it adds up to be at the current exchange rates via PayPal.
Here's the breakdown:
£168.18 Available
Currencies
£20.00
€65.00 EUR
$130.00 USD
What a truly stunning effort, guys.
Thank you, each and every one of you!
Edit: I forgot to say that I will update the spreadsheet either when I get home or this evening when I wake up.
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Updated total in my PP added to the OP. Yowza, it's growing fast!!
I'd love to help but got laid off last week so no can do atm
Add me up
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Added!
New total updated as well. I'm seriously impressed!!
I will be updating the spreadsheet when I get home from work later. I am unable to even type this without the PC lagging out... so you know...
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Spreadsheet updated and I am astonished at how much we have pulled together already!
<3 this community.
Holy crap!
120 + 50 + 20 Euro by hwbot staff/management, very well done guys!
HWBot, the community that cares about overclockers!
More to come once Paypal unfreeze my accounts...
I'll donate at the end of the month if eBay decides to give me back my 30€...
Still PayPal own me 20€ from all the times they took the 1€ verification fee...
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I have just contacted both Pulse88 and Rosty to obtain their details. I will be making the first transfer tomorrow so that we can get this ball rolling.
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I've just converted the cash to Euro's and we are left with €539 ... I will add €61 to the pot and make it an equal €600 which means that each member will receive €300 from me this weekend.
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Sorry i didnt contribute yet, because i have some problem on my paypal account, tomorrow i will call paypal for solve the issue.
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This effort makes me proud to be a part of this community, to me it's a nice feeling helping our fellow overclockers when they need it, keep it up guys (and girls).
I am waiting for my transfer @ paypal, will contribute later. I think it's still too early to do transfers now. Let's wait a bit more when other guys also make their transfers.
Need your Paypal adresse pls.
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Only because i didnt see the update on the datasheet, i want to say that i gave my support for Pulse88 and Rosty. Thanks
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The spreadsheet needs updating. I shall do it when I get a moment spare.
We are currently sat at €742.44 in my PayPal which is an epic achievement. I will allow this to run for a little while longer (mid-August, I'm thinking) before sending the funds through both members. I was originally going to transfer it over the weekend, but suggestions came that I should wait a little bit longer, so I am.
Don't worry, I've not forgotten anything here, guys!
Apologies for the lack of updates/replies. I have been mega busy over the past week.
Count me in as well!!
We need to help people in the comunity..
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PMed.
I've updated the spreadsheet with everyone's donations thus far, and it is looking AWESOME!
Check the main post for the total amount ......
There's one thing which I had refrained from saying, but I have to say it now as I feel it is only fair. Sorry, my friend. It's long overdue!
To all whom are unaware;
All of this would never have happened without the idea stemming from my good friend George. He was not recognised in the initial post (WHAT!?) for his efforts and I would like to give a big shout out to the fella from Greece. Thank you, George. You're a great friend and a you have huge influences upon people that you reach. I look forward to (hopefully) meeting up with you in the not too distant future where we can share a drink and a laugh.
Line
F16 (not the flight!) is faulty in the excel
If 20E sent, how come not received?
By teh way, any updates?
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It needs updating again. I shall do it when I get into work.
I made my donation
Perhaps time to transfer?
No update for a week+, and not many new entries.
Once again; Awesome to see the community standing up for the 2 users that got scammed.
*Hope you lads have a more joyfull weekend then me
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Sorry for the lack of updates. I've had no time to do anything. A few have donated such as XA, and I'll be on my PC in 15. I'm just eating now and then I'll update it.
I'll transfer the money tonight.
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Okay, I have gone through my PayPal twice to make sure that I haven't missed anyone, and I am fairly confident that I have everyone that has donated thus far added into the list and it is updated.
I've added in a screenshot of my current PayPal balance from all of you lovely folk. I've converted everything from USD and GBP into the Euro currency so that it is easier to dish it out to the two recipients.
For all of those whom have donated so far, I'd like to thank each and every one of you for your generosity. You've shown what this community is meant to be like, and I want to see this continue in the future. HWBOT is filled with people like you and would not be the place it is without you. Sure, we have our ups and downs, but as a whole, we are awesome.
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It has been a pleasure, guys. I hope that this helps you out!
I want to give a huge thanks to my good friend George for coming up with the original idea and an extremely major thank you to all whom donated to help our forum members out. You guys have been phenomenal. I will write a short story piece for the front page when I get up later on.
The fundraiser is NOT closing just yet. I am just sending across the sum accumulated thus far from all of you generous folk. I topped up the tank to make it an even 900 EUR to send to them. I will donate a little more once I have been paid.
Pulse, Rosty, please check your PayPal to make sure that the balance has come through. I sent the payment as a gift so that neither of us incur fees. Unfortunately, as some of the cash is coming from my bank to make it up to an even 900 EUR, it will take a few days to clear. I didn't think of this when I sent it. I am sorry! It will be with you within a week, though.
Thank you @TheMadDutchDude for organizing this & to everyone that donated
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Good work maddutchdude for taking care of all this,also shout out to George kokovinis for getting this all started
Okay, who's winning DonationMark. I see Splave put up some monster numbers but was using an old version of SystemInfo. . . lol
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I heard his waza was more efficient.
hi guys im late to the party but finally got paid. id like to donate not sure how. sent a pm a while back with no responce. Can someone point me in the rigtht direction? Btw nice job on the teamwork. Sunset1
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I'm sorry if I missed your PM. I'll sort it out shortly.
No update in spreadsheet since 28 July? 3 weeks?
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It has been updated, as recently as this morning as CN gave another huge donation for the cause. How odd... let me look into that!
Edit: I see where that came from. That was just not tallied by me and not taken care of. It has been updated now to reflect the numbers accordingly (approximately, the exchange rates vary.)
Crazy donation by Ney! Amazing
Sorry for poking quite a lot, impressed how well the community handles this.
Can you check your paypal pls.
I send money the 24july.
Tks
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Strange, to say the least, coming from the mouth of the man that started all this - ME,
but I feel a bit uncomfortable with the fact that neither of these two kind gentlemen, have publicly thanked the community for the relief that is being given to them.
If they have thanked the community, my humble apologies are due.
Have they ?
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Apologies fella, must've slipped through the net! Updating now.
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The time has come. I am closing the window for donations as it seems to have run its course. Anything that is sent to me from this point forward be refunded and will not be sent to the recipients. I have approximately 160 Euros sat in my PayPal which will be split in half and send to the members as their final payment.
We've had a fantastic turnout and I want to thank each and every single one of you whom donated to the cause. Two names in particular (not to single anyone out) stand out from the crowd for donating a significant portion of the final funds to the cause. I want to thank each and every one of you, especially @Splave and @Christian Ney. You guys are nuts (in a good way!)
I hope that you guys are proud of yourselves, all of you, and that we can carry on to be such a great community.
Before I finish off, I'd still like to reiterate my point that this would never have happened without my good friend @george\.kokovinis. Thank you for starting it all off, and thank you for being such a good guy. You're a fantastic example of what this community needs, as we are merely a bunch of nutters who many do not understand. God bless you, sir.
There's a sad side to this whole ordeal, though. You know, aside from the whole Dimas BS... I am going to admit that I am more than a little upset that neither of the recipients even bothered to write a thank you in this post. I would have thought it would be the least that you could do considering the sheer amount of money that people have donated to you.
Okay, that's it. Peace!
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Maybe you should give Brendan the 160 Euros back to the donators ?
It is one of the worst things in life not to say thank you, even if someone buys you an ice-cream.
Just my 0.02
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I may very well do that, GK.
Justo do as GK say
. Great work Brendan.
Kudos for all the trouble
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There's a good chance I will! I respect the guy a lot.
I would like to say thanks to all you People's that have donate and help me White the lost og buying at dimastech, om you all greatfull for that and om very impresed of the support om the last 1 1/2 year. Thank you
And i never ment not to thank you folks, i Got CPU from GENIEBEN Yesterday, and today is the day for me to thank you all 😊
Peace
Sorry if I am lost in translation....
Which of the 2 do you mean
A) Brendan should keep 160 Euro
B) Brendan should return 160 Euro to the donators.
If A, I STRONGLY disagree, and consider it a quite rude suggestion.
If B, I disagree, considering the initial target was $1800 or €1800 - Cannot remember the currency
We got a heck of a long way, close to target, but not fully - considering the great HW gifts as well, its fair to call it end of the fundraiser, but I do not think returning or tunneling them differently then initial thought would be appropriate.
And if it comes down to that, I suggest it is the ones making the donations that are to call the shots - be it everyone that donated or Splave/Ney, that isnt my call.
GK suggested B) M. Beier.
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I dont donate to be thanked so no worries on my end.
Hello evryone have been working alot in this 3 weaks, So to be honest i have not have mutch time to be on internet or Hwbot. (work in the forest with bad mobile connection)
I am Sorry of some of you dont think i am Grateful for all the donations. Iam very grateful for both the donations and for George and Bredans work with the foundraiser.
I want to say many thanks to the community of Hwbot for the help from the Dimas scam. And for all the donations.
Really nice to se that there are many people here that have compassion for others missery. Thats make me very proud to be a member of this community.
If someone in the future will be affected of Scam i will support, Thats for sure.
Many Big Thanks to:
Splave
Elkim & PKBO
Kimandsally
George
SamsaRulz
First anonymous member
Second anonymous member
Johnd0e
Bullant
TheMadDutchDude
Alex@ro
der8auer
Xtreme Addict
Leeghoofd
barbonenet
bartx
Third anonymous member
dhenzjhen
Massman
M.Beier
Wizerty
Christian Ney
knopflerbruce
websmile
CAxVIPER
Trouffman
riska
GtiJason
Sunset 1
GENiEBEN
I hope i dont forgot some one.
And i will give some special Thanks to:
George, Brendan for the huge work with the foundraiser/donations and to Splave, GENiEBEN ,Christian Ney, BarboneNet, Bullant for the big donations.
I think you all should be proud of your self, I for one is affected of all the help i got from you all ,after i got scammed. Both in hard earned money or the huge work Brendan and George have done.
Best Regards from a Thankful Isak
I hope dimas visits this thread and sees we are a family not to be messed with
He couldn't care less.
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Allen,
Let me have the privilege of being extremely blunt.
Paraphrasing your statement I say :
I hope ALL vendors visit this thread and see we are a family not to be messed with.
For example - ASUS. They have f*ucked me twice in a two years period, totally ignoring my RMA requests.
So be it.
The point is that this family has a strong voice and an even stronger hand.
I don't think Dimas will come out of this as a millionaire. This is just how businesses work, you try to keep them alive for as long as possible, and when you have too much debt or whatever you don't really make the choices yourself anymore. It's a part of the game. I think we've all lost RMA options or got screwed some other ways when (bigger) companies go bankrupt. You can't really expect people to become homeless for stuff like this, either.
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