Some Haswell-E USA Engineering Samples Show Up As Retail

The news has been floating for a while now, but we want to re-iterate to ensure as much people as possible are aware of the situation. As you know, for many years we could distinguish engineering samples from retail by using CPU-Z. The engineering sample CPUs are marked with "(ES)", as identified by a flag in the processor register. With the launch of Haswell-E, this is no longer the case and some engineering samples are showing up as retail.

In particular the engineering samples from the USA factory present themselves as retail when using CPU-Z. A lot of the USA CPUs have found their way to the review media and, because they overclock well, also in the hands of extreme overclockers.

Why the engineering sample CPUs are no longer showing up as ES in CPU-Z is a question we don't have an answer to. Either CPU-Z is not detecting the right flag, or the flag is simply not enable on those CPUs. The consequence of this situation is that the moderating staff can not detect if a CPU was retail or engineering sample anymore. However, note that this has always been the case with AMD CPUs. With this news post we would like to stress the following items:

  • If you are using an ES Haswell-E that shows up as retail, please inform your fellow community members and don't enable points if you're not in the Elite League

  • Beware of reports of highly overclockable Haswell-E configurations by general media and in reviews

We hope we can rely on the community to maintain the fair playing field we try to provide at HWBOT. If you are using engineering samples, please move to the Elite League. Thanks!!


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Belgium Massman says:

Not all ES show up as retail actually

United States Gunslinger says:

My ES shows up as ES in all it's 5.4GHz glory. :D

United States l0ud_sil3nc3 says:

ES is ES here as well.

Australia Dinos22 says:

lol i have a worse ES Mike

United States dumo says:

Most of ES USA has identical batch #s J43xxxxx and it seems to be vendor/review sites region specific.

Belgium Massman says:

Vendor specific?

United States dumo says:

Yes

Belgium Massman says:

Care to elaborate?

United States dumo says:

Most likely ea. vendor received bulk of ES USA with the same batch based on the initial date of shipping from Intel...then distributed to their in house/region branches or for some special occasion like oc event, review sites etc.

United States Gunslinger says:

dinos22 said: lol i have a worse ES Mike


:celebration: I see your worse ES and raise you 1 worse retail also. :p

The Overclocking Knights says:

All ES USA from Intel France are detected as retail by CPUZ.

Belgium CornerJack says:

Please, when you use a picture from website, post a link ;)

Belgium Massman says:

Is it yours? Thomas gave me the direct FB link, couldn't find the source. What's the source link? I'll add it.

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

Let's just ban X99 platform at all until new stepping of CPUs arrives :D

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Let's ban XA and have more beer for everybody

Germany Moose83 says:

:D

United States steponz says:

I think the issue is because they ran out of es cpus.. and they started stamping retails as es to give out to companies.. so theres likely no way to see what is different.

Canada Vinster says:

Leeghoofd said: more beer for everybody


Here, here...

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

steponz said: I think the issue is because they ran out of es cpus.. and they started stamping retails as es to give out to companies.. so theres likely no way to see what is different.


So why retails suck? :)

United States steponz says:

Didn't we see the same with haswell.. not every retail is going to be golden. Have to go through chips as usual with any platform.

United States steponz says:

Xtreme Addict said: So why retails suck? :)


How many retails have you gone through?

United States Gunslinger says:

steponz said: Didn't we see the same with haswell.. not every retail is going to be golden. Have to go through chips as usual with any platform.
It's just a lot more painful at $1,000+ per chip compared to $300 :p

United States steponz says:

Isn't that the truth.... ;)

United States TheGoat Eater says:

My ES shows up as retail :) - received straight from Intel for review

Belgium CornerJack says:

Yes Massman ;)
http://www.overclex.net/articles/test-de-la-msi-x99s-gaming-7/4/

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