System Pictures No Longer Mandatory For Enthusiast Submissions

Following the release of our simplified Overclockers Ranking system which features one overview table and one league table for each of the overclocker groups, we also removed the requirement for system pictures to gain points for enthusiasts. We removed this rule with the following argumentation:

  • It is a fairly weak rule in terms of validation or verification
  • The pictures are usually of poor quality or not interesting (eg: just a case)
  • The rules are more streamlined

In addition we find that only a fraction of the new Rookie overclockers attach a picture to their benchmark submission. By removing the rule, we can give Rookies their first HWBoints and hopefully excite them to participate in the Overclockers Ranking.

The rule is applied retro-actively, which means all old results which did not yield points because of a lack of system picture should now be yielding points. The staff reserves the right to block a result in case of doubt. We also reserve the right to request additional verification.

Thank you for our understanding.

The HWBOT Staff.


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Italy Stermy57 says:

Maybe is a good idea for encourages people to use extreme cooling solution but I believe that in this way it's easy to find people that use TEC or Chiller although they are in enthusiast league.

how can we avoid it?

Germany der8auer says:

The problem is that the picture rule does not solve these issues. You can just take a picture with a watercooler on your card and still use extreme cooling methods. In addition there were almost no problems during the last few years. So no reason to keep the rule.

Romania suzuki says:

Enthusiast league is full of chillers and peltiers :)),nobody can do anything about it.
Let them be happy with their places,competing with ferrari in renault competition.
Like Tasos said in a recent post which can apply in this case also :
"
Is that considered fair ?
They want points for them and their team !

Claps , claps !!!
Yeahhhh , way to go mate , you're the one !!! "

Germany Moose83 says:

Its issue, but why keep Enthusiast :)

United States Mr.Scott says:

suzuki said: Enthusiast league is full of chillers and peltiers :)),nobody can do anything about it.


Exactly. The picture rule was worthless. Good riddance. :)

Canada Vinster says:

Mr.Scott said: Exactly. The picture rule was worthless. Good riddance. :)


x2.

Vin

Russian Federation Antinomy says:

Maybe add a photo requirement for old CPUs? Will make verifying the right category easier.

Sweden Marquzz says:

Antinomy said: Maybe add a photo requirement for old CPUs? Will make verifying the right category easier.
+1 for this. Especially cpu's which cpu-z cannot read correctly.

Germany der8auer says:

It'll be too complicated to have different rules for different categories. If it's unclear we can always request pictures as additional proof in special cases.

Sweden Marquzz says:

You can have a general rule; if cpu-z info differs from the specifications of the CPU, attach a picture of the CPU.

United States Mr.Scott says:

Antinomy said: Maybe add a photo requirement for old CPUs? Will make verifying the right category easier.


Oh no.....we can't make it easier. Then nobody would be able to lie. :p

Russian Federation Antinomy says:

der8auer said: It'll be too complicated to have different rules for different categories.
Why? Everything before Pentium 4 and Athlon 64 is enough. And there's only a tiny % of users who bench such things. Make a warning on the submit page (like the stupid checkbox - "I know the rules" we must check every time) and viola!

I'm sure that 99% of users will be unaffected. And will make life much easier for guys like me who clean out the categories looking for misposted results and asking to move them to the right place. Or when splitting categories.

Scotty, the days of fiddling by intention are mostly over. Most people make mistakes with old hardware because they know nothing about it. The hardware can be older than they started using computers or older than the member himself :D And it'll be more common year by year.

Romania suzuki says:

I don't think you understood why it's not mandatory anymore a picture on enthusiast legue...because of the cooling used ,not hardware. There is a posibility but it's a pain in the ass,to keep open afterburner and coretemp on the whole duration of the bencmark,if it's under 0 degrees you move to the next category of extreme users : D .

United States Mr.Scott says:

Antinomy said:
Scotty, the days of fiddling by intention are mostly over. Most people make mistakes with old hardware because they know nothing about it. The hardware can be older than they started using computers or older than the member himself :D And it'll be more common year by year.


I know, and you're right. Shame on me for using the worst case scenario.

Norway knopflerbruce says:

I like the idea that if CPUZ differs from specs then a picture is required (or at least highly recommended in case of complaints etc). However, would this apply to unlocked Phenoms, too? :) I think so...? There are a couple of models (B45 and so on) that can be "achieved" using different chips (Athlon II x4 645/Athlon II x3 445 in that case)

Russian Federation Antinomy says:

Bruce, we could start from old school (where CPU-Z is bad and mostly due to limitations of the hardware itself making it hard to identify it) and expand on cases like you said. If a CPU category can be "achieved", I'd recommend to add a photo too.

Bulgaria I.nfraR.ed says:

Yes, I was thinking myself always to add photo of the s.A cpus I bench, but most of the times I forget about it (I have maybe 100+ different samples). There's no other way to distinguish different models with the same core, e.g. Barton from another Barton. We're counting here on the users loyalty only. Not that you can't bench your golden 2500+, then take a picture of your weak 2400+ and submit it in that category, so I guess it's not very helpful.

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