Heads-up: Downtime Scheduled for Upgrade Install on June 27, 3-4PM GMT+2

At the end of every development sprint we upgrade the HWBOT source code with the new features and patches. Usually, the upgrade only takes a couple of minutes. Tomorrow, June 27 between 3PM and 4PM , we have scheduled another downtime to install the updates and patches to the site. The downtime is expected to be a bit longer than usual because of a couple of critical patches and upgrades. We expect to have a downtime of about half an hour, but it might take longer in case we run into unexpected problems.

Just a heads-up!


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Belgium richba5tard says:

Update completed as scheduled, now running on a better database! We changed from MyISAM to InnoDB tables, to prevent table locking during calculation of the points. Previously HWBOT would be unresponsive each time someone brakes a superpi 1m record and 80000 other submissions get new points, achievements, etc. :D

Germany der8auer says:

Is this the reason why the ranking looks a bit messed up at the moment?

Poland Dziarson says:

Our points went on holiday on the Caribbean . LOL

Belgium richba5tard says:

The change in database engine could have a lot of impact, yes. I tested it on a test environment and it seemed ok, but point me to errors when encountered please!

Germany der8auer says:

The points in our profiles are messed up. Just check here for example: http://hwbot.org/user/der8auer/

I should have around 1228 points tho. That affected the whole ranking.

United States Threedhero says:

i have 1 point........ http://hwbot.org/community/user/threedhero I should have closer to 500-550 points.

Italy naruto80 says:

j have 11 point LOL XDXDXD before around 990 ;-) I think that will be put in place in the coming days ;-)

Poland Dziarson says:

I was 36 in Poland, I'm 13. not know that so wrong %-)

Australia Yamunsa says:

as above, had around 800 points now only 2 - http://hwbot.org/user/yamunsa/

Belgium richba5tard says:

Pro oc ranking is fubar, looking into it!

Belgium Gamer says:




:ws:

GENiEBEN says:

Faster than the fastest =)) Btw, browsing is so much smoother now on both the site and forum.

Belgium richba5tard says:

Okay, I see the problem. It has been fixed in production. Not 100% sure whether everything is identical as before, because at first sight it seems you guys all gained a few dozen points... don't know whether it was a bug before, or a bug now. :D

United States I.M.O.G. says:

Something doesn't seem quite right currently. For instance, my league points are about the same as they were before (908), but below that, where it adds everything up, my hardware and global point are listed as zero and total points are listed as 14. Everything looks right as far as I can tell, except for that part. This is in the top right section of my profile page: http://hwbot.org/user/i.m.o.g./

Belgium richba5tard says:

Yes, I noticed the hardware and global points are not shown nor added to the total on the user info page. It seems like a minor mistake, will fix asap.

Australia Yamunsa says:

not just pro oc i'm afraid.. i'm in xoc.

India thebanik says:

Yup even xoc is effected.

Belgium Massman says:

Enthusiast League as well, I think. Anyway, it's nighttime in Belgium now so I'll be another couple hours before the dev team can look at this. Sorry for the inconvenience!

United States I.M.O.G. says:

Ahhh Dom. just went ahead of me in the US league. This bug just went code red high alert status. Somebody get richbastard out of bed asap! Lol

United States DOM. says:

Baahaha :)

Belgium Gamer says:




Ok, it's fixed.

:nana:

Germany SoF says:

Seems legit - gratz :D

Italy naruto80 says:

Massman said: Enthusiast League as well, I think.

Anyway, it's nighttime in Belgium now so I'll be another couple hours before the dev team can look at this. Sorry for the inconvenience!


no problem, now it's ok!!!congratulations for the speed with which you solved
;-)

Germany der8auer says:

Gamer said:


Ok, it's fixed.

:nana:


Haha :D

Belgium Gamer says:

Seems like we all gained some points?

Bug or real?

Germany der8auer says:

Well I went down 10 positions and didnt gain points :D hope this is not the final ranking for now.
Which changes were applied to cause such a point difference?

Belgium Massman says:

For some reason, some users have more scores that generate points than they should have. I think for example Mtech has >15 global scores. Some users have the correct amount of scores generating points. We are aware of the issue and looking for the most efficient solution. Bear in mind, a complete recalculation of the points would take several days.

Puerto Rico chispy says:

Massman , my ranking has been jumping up and down :/ every few hours , it changes a lot and is going crazy , before the update I was ranked #64 in XOC League , after the update I was ranked #52 , later last night it changed to rank # 112 Then #121 then #110, my ranking went down a lot ....... :/ Can you please verify why i'm ranked so low at this point in time ? , something is not correct here , I should be ranked around # 60 or better right now with my latest submissions and points. Thank you in advanced. Please hit the re-calculate button , I have bench every day for the last month very hard to be back in top 50 in XOC leage with plenty of global points , but I don't know whats real and whats not anymore in the rankings :confused:. Thank you.

Kind Regards: Angelo.

Sweden Calathea says:

Pretty big drop in rankings for me. Better start to care about points again :D

United States Mikecdm says:

I'm liking the changes :D

Belgium Massman says:

chispy said: Massman , my ranking has been jumping up and down :/ every few hours , it changes a lot and is going crazy , before the update I was ranked #64 in XOC League , after the update I was ranked #52 , later last night it changed to rank # 112 Then #121 then #110, my ranking went down a lot ....... :/ Can you please verify why i'm ranked so low at this point in time ? , something is not correct here , I should be ranked around # 60 or better right now with my latest submissions and points. Thank you in advanced. Please hit the re-calculate button , I have bench every day for the last month very hard to be back in top 50 in XOC leage with plenty of global points , but I don't know whats real and whats not anymore in the rankings :confused:. Thank you.

Kind Regards: Angelo.


Hi Angelo,

We are aware of the situation. It is weekend now, though, so the development team is spending time with the family. On monday, we will continue to look for the best solution to fix the rankings.

Sorry for the inconvenience!

Massman said: For some reason, some users have more scores that generate points than they should have. I think for example Mtech has >15 global scores. Some users have the correct amount of scores generating points.

We are aware of the issue and looking for the most efficient solution. Bear in mind, a complete recalculation of the points would take several days.

Puerto Rico chispy says:

Thank you very much Pieter for the heads up.

Kind regards: Angelo.

Belgium Gamer says:

You can try to recalculate in the my account section.
Worked for me.

Puerto Rico chispy says:

Gamer said: You can try to recalculate in the my account section.
Worked for me.


Hi gamer , tx for the reply but it does not help , is not only me , is the hundreds of other peoples scores that have not bench for years are getting ridiculous points and went up in the rankings and I don't know why. Example someone in my team has not bench for 2+ years , he is inactive. All of the sudden he got a big boost in points out of the blue and got a big jump upwards in the ranking even higher than me , so it is the system that is messed up not only my account , hundred of accounts are messed up , inactive members from many years ago that stopped benching and are completely inactive for years are going up in the rankings instead of down. Please check on it , thank you in advanced.

Belgium Massman says:

We're still looking into the code. It might actually be possible that the rankings were bugged before and not after the fix.

Germany der8auer says:

No, I don't think so. Just manually add up the points and you will notice that some users get more points than just the top 15 global and top 20 hardware. E.g. Wizerty has 1273,4p in the profile but only 1166,3p if you add up the points manually. Same goes for mtech or others.

Belgium Massman says:

Hm, okay. We calculated manually based on the database identified "best submissions" and it worked out. I think it might be related to another bug we found that incorrectly ranks scores in the benchmark ranking.

Continuing the search!

//edit: just confirmed your finding with the database. Added an extra critical bugfix task to the current development sprint to address this issue asap.

//edit: we identified about 1000 users that were getting too much global or too much hardware points.

Puerto Rico chispy says:

Thank you guys , now my ranking is where is supposed to be :) from #106 ranked ( bugged Ranked ) now im back in #25 , thank you for the hard work squashing bugs , apretiate it. :celebration:

Kind Regards: Angelo

Germany der8auer says:

Thanks PJ! Now it looks like some users have 0 HW Points or 0 global points in the profile. E.g.:

http://hwbot.org/user/stummerwinter/
http://hwbot.org/user/ctrlfix/
http://hwbot.org/user/topdog/
http://hwbot.org/user/sofos1990/

Germany Don_Dan says:

Steve's points are broken as well: http://hwbot.org/user/stevero/#Points

India thebanik says:

My points are borked as well. No Global or Hardware point in profile. http://hwbot.org/user/thebanik/#Points

Belgium richba5tard says:

oops

Belgium Teemto says:

Same problem here. HW masters league is still ok, cups as well, but Xtreme OC league worldwide, national and team rankings are fubar. Did a forced recalculation but it's still not correct.

Belgium Teemto says:

Problem seems to be corrected now. Points seem to be ok, but ranking is too high. Probably because other's haven't been corrected yet.

zupernico says:

Teemto said: Problem seems to be corrected now. Points seem to be ok, but ranking is too high. Probably because other's haven't been corrected yet.


Enthusiast league are not correct. Poparamiro and dead things are missing :(

zupernico says:

zupernico said: Enthusiast league are not correct. Poparamiro and dead things are missing :(



Good!! They are already, but mine and "Faster" i think it´s not correct.

Puerto Rico chispy says:

It seems the rankings are fubar again :( , something is not right !

Japan OMEGA3 says:

Hi,
My hardware points are not added.
Also other members, the global or hardware points are not calculated too.

Germany der8auer says:

We are aware of the issue guys. Frederik is already working on it and it should be fixed soon.

Greece TASOS says:

Looks like it's more serious than initially expected ...

I hope everything goes well.

Belgium richba5tard says:

A complete recalculation of the member points has finished. Please report if your league position or points is incorrect, and post a link to your profile.

Greece sofos1990 says:

http://hwbot.org/user/sofos1990/

United States MattNo5ss says:

I did a recalc, but it doesn't look like hardware points are calculating.

http://hwbot.org/user/mattno5ss

Germany der8auer says:

http://hwbot.org/user/true_monkey zero points

Puerto Rico chispy says:

League position and points both incorrect - http://hwbot.org/user/chispy/#Points

Also there still is a ton of people getting massive points and a big jump in the positions ranking league , hence why league position is innacurate , I don't have any idea where I supposed to be ranked right now as I keep making huge amount of submisions with many global ,hardware and TPP and when I checked my ranking I went from #26 ranked to # 42 keep going down in team position ranking instead of up , its not adding the points correctly and is going backwards :/.
Thank you for all the hard work RB.

Kind Regards: Angelo.

United States Schmuckley says:

I'm not too happy..It says I have 149 points total;I have that between q6600 and 1 other chip.

Germany der8auer says:

http://hwbot.org/user/lippokratis/ global points are missing

Germany Don_Dan says:

Here are some more.

Greece Stelaras says:

I logged in today after a month and saw my ranking is a mess :D

http://hwbot.org/user/Stelaras/

Japan OMEGA3 says:

Missing Points, Team KATANA members

http://hwbot.org/user/omega3/
http://hwbot.org/user/futto_kun/
http://hwbot.org/user/yancyan/

Belgium Massman says:

I have added all the faulty profiles to the backlog. Not easy to figure out what is the problem exactly.

India thebanik says:

There is another problem it seems to me, posted a score yesterday in an obscure category which should have given me Silver and 1.5 Points, instead even after successful submission the result scored 0 and infact did not even come up in the category. So there is some related/unrelated bug of submission with problematic profiles too I guess.

Norway Maximous says:

Missing all my boints exept for the 1 comp boint I got.

http://hwbot.org/user/maximous/

Greece TASOS says:

I only have 3 competition points.
http://hwbot.org/user/tasos/

Also ...
Yesterday i uploaded a cpu-z result , which should have given me Silver and 1.5 Points, instead the result scored 0 , allthough it shows as 2nd in its category.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2398067_

United States Q56_Monster says:

All my hardware points disappeared.

http://hwbot.org/user/q56_monster/

Puerto Rico chispy says:

Here we go again , My points are missing , new submissions are not giving me any points at all , as a matter of fact I have some scores who are missing the points , this is huge Bug. My league ranking has going crazy again went from bugged 216 to , 201, to 68 , the you guys kind of fixed it , and I was ranked correctly at # 26 in my league , now is borked again and Fubar the rankings and I am ranked # 53 again went very low for where i supposed to be ranked much higher in my league. Some of my points disappeard :( too.

http://hwbot.org/submission/2398388_

United States Mr.Scott says:

Originally Posted by Devroush on HWBOT
Of course it will be bug free, I only write flawless code.


Famous last words. :D

Germany Don_Dan says:

Recalculating is working again, I've fixed all the submissions that were posted in this thread.

United States hokiealumnus says:

Should we have our team members push their recalculate all button?

United States Q56_Monster says:

Don_Dan said: Recalculating is working again, I've fixed all the submissions that were posted in this thread.


Recalc did nothing. All my hardware points are still missing from the rankings

Germany Don_Dan says:

Yes, there were two problems:
- points missing from the profile
- new scores receiving no points

The latter seems to be fixed.

@hokiealumnus: This won't fix the problem with points missing from the profile. Wait for MM's or RB's comment.

United States hokiealumnus says:

K, thanks Don Dan.

United States Q56_Monster says:

Thanks DD, looks like mine is fixed.

United States sparkey247 says:

Been having this problem as well. new subs are not getting any points as well as not showing up in the rankings except for on my personal wall. i hit the recalculate button last night about 8 hours ago and its still calculation submission.

is this something that has been going around? the whole site?

United States sparkey247 says:

well it seems to have fixed it self i think!

Germany Don_Dan says:

I fixed them. Did I miss any? This is a problem for the whole site, though some members are affected and some are not.

United States sparkey247 says:

it looks like its all good, it happened last night when i started subbing for pd 925 i was getting 0's for every bench but its all at least for me thanks

Belgium Massman says:

Looks a lot better today. No more faulty profiles?

Norway Maximous says:

Mine is not fixed yet:/

http://hwbot.org/user/maximous/

Norway Maximous says:

Recalc did the trick :)

Puerto Rico chispy says:

My points and ranking are fixed , thank you guys for the hard work and effort fixing all this bugs.

Kind regards: Angelo.

Germany Don_Dan says:

Massman said: Looks a lot better today. No more faulty profiles?


Most are fixed, but I found those after looking around:
http://hwbot.org/user/nolonger/
http://hwbot.org/user/pizzaman/
http://hwbot.org/user/yancyan/

Belgium Massman says:

Yeah, I checked with Frederik. The global recalculation failed when we had to reboot the server because the forum was down. I found a bunch of other profiles that had issues still as well. Mostly it's those with +100 ranks down this week. I'm recalculating them manually right now, can do it the ones you linked to later.

India thebanik says:

Massman said: Yeah, I checked with Frederik. The global recalculation failed when we had to reboot the server because the forum was down.

I found a bunch of other profiles that had issues still as well. Mostly it's those with +100 ranks down this week. I'm recalculating them manually right now, can do it the ones you linked to later.


Mine's not fixed yet, http://hwbot.org/user/thebanik/

Belgium Massman says:

Fixed, I think. :)

India thebanik says:

Massman said: Fixed, I think. :)


It is, though my ranks seems to have improved thanks to GP on cinebench. Bug or the recent change in GP calculations?

Germany Don_Dan says:

Some of my team mates' profiles are still broken: http://hwbot.org/user/trg/ http://hwbot.org/user/marcolecorse/ http://hwbot.org/user/mtp04/ http://hwbot.org/user/stevero/

zupernico says:

are everything ok??

Spain Salvador says:

Mine's not fixed yet, http://hwbot.org/user/salvador/

thanks

Belgium richba5tard says:

Salvador said: Mine's not fixed yet, http://hwbot.org/user/salvador/

thanks


Looks OK to me? What's wrong?

GENiEBEN says:

Hey RB, my profile page says I have ~260 hwpoints, whereas I have around 1800, but I am ranked correctly.

Belgium richba5tard says:

Hmm yes, your profile shows the amount of hw points counting towards member points for xoc league (so top 20), but not your grand total. I think used to be different.

Spain Salvador says:

My profile says that I have 51.6 hwpoints but, I have Global:21,1 + Hardware: 34 = 55.1 hwpoints ?. And the achievement "Reach top-750 of Overclockers League" is not correct.

Thanks

Sorry for my english, it´s nor very good.

Spain Salvador says:

My profile says that I have 51.6 League points but, I have Global:21,1 + Hardware: 34 = 55.1 League points ?. And the achievement "Reach top-750 of Overclockers League" is not correct.

Thanks

Sorry for my english, it´s nor very good.

the above is not correct

Germany Axl says:

my scores are incorrect :-(

Croatia vava says:

Whether it is with these profiles all right.
All three profiles have been dropped for 1000+ positions.

http://hwbot.org/user/vava/
http://hwbot.org/user/Quake/
http://hwbot.org/user/skydec/

Germany der8auer says:

He still has 0 points: http://www.hwbot.org/user/true_monkey

Germany SoF says:

Oh so I can be happy with my 2 cents, erm points :D

Belgium Massman says:

Fixed

Germany Axl says:

there is still a fault with my points - I am missing 55.9 points in enthusiast league!


Germany Axl says:

Nachtelf said: there is still a fault with my points - I am missing 55.9 points in enthusiast league!




No response?

Germany Don_Dan says:

Somehow I end up with an even lower amount if I calculate your points manually...

Belgium richba5tard says:

Nachtelf said: No response?


You know only your 20 best hardware and 15 best global points count towards the league points, yes? This is so people can focus on high overclocks, instead of a massive amount of low overclocks.

http://hwbot.org/community/user/axl#Points

Germany Axl says:

Don_Dan said: Somehow I end up with an even lower amount if I calculate your points manually...


my 180 submissions added: 186.9 Hardware points
not 128.3 points

Belgium richba5tard says:

Do not add your 180 submissions together, only your 20 best.

Germany Axl says:

I mean Hardware Points! Not the Points for Enthusiast.
The Code is Damage and someone has to fix it - thats all....

Spain Salvador says:

My profile says that I have 51.1 League points but, I have Global:20,6 + Hardware: 34 = 54.6 League points ?. And the achievement "Reach top-750 of Overclockers League" is not correct.

Thanks

Sorry for my english, it´s nor very good.

Germany Axl says:

richba5tard said: Do not add your 180 submissions together, only your 20 best.


let me explain more precisely
in my profile HARDWARE points are 128.3

180 results together are 186.9 HARDWARE points-so it lacks 68.6 points

I mean only the HARDWARE points and not GLOBAL or COMPETITIONS points and not the points in Enthusiast

also the last 4 or 5 results were not counted
although the points are calculated, but not my in my profile

please could someone finally make a statement what goes wrong and when it will be fixed?

at the moment it makes no sense to upload results when they are not counted anyway ...

GENiEBEN says:

Curious about this too, as before there wasn't an 'only top20' for hardware points :?

Belgium Massman says:

Enthusiast and OC League have been SUM(best 15 GL + best 20 HW + Competition Points) since the start of Revision 4. Only your 20 highest rated HW points will count towards your league total. The rest are not accounted for. For the Hardware Masters, they all count.

Strunkenbold says:

Looks like points calculation is messed up completely. Nothing and for no one seems to be correct, just calc your points manually.

For me:

manually HW: 326,2 bot: 326,4
manually GL: 251,7 bot: 285.2
Overall(+28CP): 605,9 bot: 639.6

mtech:

manually HW: 857,1 bot: 857
manually GL: 773,6 bot: 978.3
manually WR: 130 bot: 200
Overall(+14CP): 1774,7 bot: 2,049.3

Germany Don_Dan says:

Yeah, that's what I meant yesterday, I had calculated Nachtelf's points manually and got a lower result than shown by the bot.

Strunkenbold says:

yeah, seems like the bot doesnt obey its own 15scores global rule, instead calcs with all available.

Belgium Massman says:

Added both to the buglist as well. On Friday we found a bug that would cause the site to be unresponsive around 9AM GMT+8. This was caused by a deadlock in the database when cleaing up the old member points. I think the problems with the points are a result of that bug. I hope Frederik can figure it out as soon as possible. Sorry for the inconvenience! :(

Germany Axl says:

in my hardware library I can not find one of my components - please fix it

Greece varachio says:

Despite the fact that points are not calculated correctly...
Have you noticed also that "Hardware Masters League" not contain anyone in it anymore?

Belgium Massman says:

Thanks for reporting. Adding it to the buglist ... :(

Strunkenbold says:

Point Calculation looks almost good now, apart from the thing that we still count all available subs with Global Points instead of just 15...

Germany Don_Dan says:

Strunkenbold said: Point Calculation looks almost good now, apart from the thing that we still count all available subs with Global Points instead of just 15...


Really? That should have been fixed with yesterday's update... :(

Germany Axl says:

43,3 points total and 193,4 points in Enthusiast??? and thats not the only wrong caculation...


Austria basco says:

sorry but i have to say this is really strange that an update completeley messes up austrian (and others?) point and i have a feeling this is not high priority.
look at our charts:
http://hwbot.org/league/oc?offset=-6&countryCode=AT

i have been from last place to first and much more and others too
and nearly all have lost 100+more places?
i know you work hard but plz this is first to fix for all of us.
if the ranking is not trusted the whole structure starts to shake.

thanks for listening

Austria Turrican says:

it's already a known problem and we are working on it. have some patience please.

Belgium richba5tard says:

I installed an update to the point algorithm last friday, and all reported issues looked fine on both the test server and production. @basco: looking at those peoples personal profile, I don't see any obvious issue. It could be that they changed rank due to the bugs that were in production until last friday. If you spot an error, please tell.

Austria basco says:

thanks richbastard+team for your hard work. all seems ok now-could not count anymore because of so many different results displayed trough last weeks.

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