ASRock Z87 Comes With Waterproof Conformal Coating?
As I uploaded ASrock's latest banner sent to me yesterday, I stumbled upon this neat little logo on ASRock's Z87 micro-site. There is not much information available on the micro-site regarding the "Waterproof by Conformal Coating" feature - nothing at all, in fact - but the nomenclature seems straight-forward. It seems that the upcoming ASRock Z87 motherboards will come with a coating that will prevent hardware failure due to condensation.
Interesting? Or rather wait and see? I'm intruiged!
Link to the micro-site: http://www.asrock.com/microsite/Intel8/
Massman 说:
Interesting! :celebration:
Mikecdm 说:
I will own one of these.
说:
You win asrock.
Bobnova 说:
Holy crap. ASRock for the win!
TASOS 说:
Very Interesting !!!
Nice move.
chispy 说:
Awsome feature , me wants
Vinster 说:
Winning....
zeropluszero 说:
But srsly, if this means no vas, asrock sold a board to me 100%
l0ud_sil3nc3 说:
Love to see this, can't wait to buy one!
dhenzjhen 说:
no more insulation ftw
Eeky NoX 说:
Let's spill beer on them!!!! LOOOOOOOLLL!!
Best move I saw for us since a while. Thank you Nick!!!!
说:
cool but i will still pass
leeghoofd 说:
isn't that similar to GB latest Ultra durable series ?
Eeky NoX 说:
I heard from an ex MSI guy, that all the boards where already coated since a few years now..
But they mean PCB only (not a big deal though) or even all componants and solderings?
Massman 说:
Ultra Durable has humidity protection with the PCB design, not quite the same as using conformal coating. Gigabyte's solution is to reduce humidity inside the PCB, the coating is on top of the PCB.
TaPaKaH 说:
So if I buy a board and pour a glass of water on it running and "for some reason" it dies - that's a legit RMA case now, right?
Maximous 说:
Wow this is Nice.
And BEER is for drinking, not spilling
zzolio 说:
no is not
it is only to protect the PCB from moisture not water they can not coat the ram and pcie slots
Alex@ro 说:
Marketing is running strong these days....
nacho_arroyo 说:
wow! :-)
NickShih 说:
We will see !
chispy 说:
, NickyBoy my friend you have made a monster board with an awesome feature that we all need :ws: , no condensation issues For The Win !
SoF 说:
Sounds interesting for sure!
Sergio73 说:
very interesting !!
Xtreme Addict 说:
I was wondering a long time why vendors didn't use plastic spray for ln2 boards...
DrOwnz 说:
so we just need a ready-to-go insulation for empty-RAM Slots and so on ^^
leeghoofd 说:
they are pre vaselined out of the box
sin0822 说:
i think this feature was in discussion when the X58A-OC was in development, the issue was if you add a real layer of con formal coat over everything, well things overheat.... really think about the possibility of that....
Would be a nice feature tho! But you would still need to insulate everything else. I wonder how that waterproofing will work with multiple cycles of cold and heat? What about discoloration? What about fixing broken stuff? I mean when is the last time you coated your motherboard with insulation and then used it on air 24/7 with the coat and didn't worry?
Smoke 说:
Stupid marketing imho!
Christian Ney 说:
Eeky NoX 说:
Even more when you see that video rofl!
W&S... Wave 'n Splash!!
sin0822 说:
why can't he pour a conductive liquid on it? I mean if that liquid wont short out a molex or a fan header, then how do we know it is a conductive liquid? It could just be de-ionized water..
Why not use coke like in the slides?
Splave 说:
cannot waste precious cola bro, I will show you ln2 with just paper towels in time
Planet 说:
LN2 isn't conductive Sprave. Show cola or salted water bro.
Splave 说:
lmao water is dude
TaPaKaH 说:
why not try a piss? ... board has yellow slots anyway
thebanik 说:
waiting for your test splave, If this works without extensive insulation from users end then as others said, Asrock would have gained another customer here, . Condensation is a bitch when temperature is 45C like here.
Splave 说:
I'll try this at the computex booth.
Sin do you like piss better than cola? or no
Christian Ney 说:
Poke me when you do :brings all the GoPros:
Splave 说:
bro its only average sized, sorry to let you down
Bobnova 说:
As long as you're pissing on things at Computex, there're a couple vendor reps that could do with it too I think. Do you take assignments?
Massman 说:
You really suspect them goofing this video with de-ionized water?
Bobnova 说:
Maybe that's what Gigabyte would do
sin0822 说:
I believe it when I see it, so two weeks splave, we got a date salt water will work just fine. water isn't conductive until it is ionized, salt water is filled with ions.
l0ud_sil3nc3 说:
Troll much?
Fan headers blowing up personal experience there bud? Seems as though you may be doing a bit to much back seat driving, and watching from the sidelines instead of actual overclocking.
Usually when I defrost the session is done, so who cares about water when thawing, you just let it sit for a few hours and you are ready to go again, not even sure why this was mentioned.
As for the de humidifier option, I have seen this in the bios but since I am actually overclocking I don't really bother with it, as it does not help max clocks, not even for bclk world records:p All of the retail boards I have had have solid readings for vdimm and vcore and others can verify so maybe check your dmm.
As for the false advertising about digital vs analog, I can agree but when it runs better than most other vendor's digital PWM how can you argue?
And tell me how any of these vendors have any interest in what is good for America or the American economy? Where do you think all of this money is going? Back in circulation in the US economy? Come on your smarter than that. As a corporation their best interest is in increasing profits, not what is best for the consumer and that is every company, not just Asrock so moot point imho.
And to err on the side of caution, I would still insulate the motherboard on top of the conformal just to be safe, and really pouring cola or deionized water? How about just benching the board and posting some results good or bad? I am sure we (the users) will figure out if this is marketing at it's finest or an actual good idea.
I know you have lots of hate for any vendor other than Gigabyte and that is ok with me, but I usually like to choose whoever has the fastest, easiest to bench boards (with proper bios support) regardless of brand so if everything is dialed on the Gigabyte like I keep hearing you will see me benching a Z87 OC X.
Massman 说:
Splave and Sin,
Sitting in a tree
...
der8auer 说:
if you run de-ionized water over a board in ambient air it wont be de-ionized anymore after few minutes. So the video is pretty much legit.
sin0822 说:
Lol massman
I decided to erase that post about an hour ago, you sat there for an hour with my post in the quote wondering what to say? i feel honored. Damn if i sat there an hour before every post I wouldn't say most of the stuff I say.
l0ud_sil3nc3 说:
No I just started to reply and then I . . . . actually started benching:D
Maybe time to start doing some more of that:)
dumo 说:
@ Sin...Imo it will better for you to just sit tight and let other mobo vendors do their thing before release date.
These vendors will be fine as yours too.
Just a friendly suggestion:)
Hazzan 说:
my all stuff board vga have waterproff cuz vaselline on it...
Eeky NoX 说:
We don't wanna know what you're doing with your hardware Hazzan... strange culture
Xtreme Addict 说:
I am so happy that Asrock listens and use some great ideas
slamms 说:
Lol
Splave 说:
I will not feed the trolls
sin0822 说:
quality, bring it on! haha we can do it in person, like a live trivia! Also I can be mad, ASRock doesn't like me at all, right? I heard you guys even tried to get Intersil to sue me! haha.
leeghoofd 说:
Time to take your pills Steven
Chill dudes it's a hobby
Alex@ro 说:
At least be more gentle when being biased towards your lovely brand,you know...
Splave 说:
Oc Is Life Leeeeeg
Rosty 说:
Z77 oc formula, waterproof by T-Rex from OCTeamZenZyg
Alex@ro 说:
oh man...such a dirty job
CL3P20 说:
Ohh.. I just threw up in my mouth a bit, lookin at that photo. Thankfully, its dry enough where I live to bench with no real prep and minimal coverage of anything really. Vas in the RAM and PCI-E is a must for going cold on everything, still.. but the amount of vas in that pic is insanity. I dont want to ever live/bench somewhere where the amount of humidity is high enough to warrant that..
xxbassplayerxx 说:
That is so gross lol
Rosty 说:
yes it i gross.. but he is running 24/7 on cascade on that mount, only have to tip the board in the morning to get water off, then it's ready to go.. lol its great
Splave 说:
whhhat? insane vas
Schmuckley 说:
too much butt-lube
l0ud_sil3nc3 说:
Just got down with the vas on the most recent Z77 OC Formula since there have been so many sessions with cold on the memory. Yes it is a bit messy at first the peace of mind of a condensation free session is totally worth it I think.
For just cpu, no need to go that hard if you live in a dry climate, but if the board is going to be benched cold on cpu, gpu and memory and is a permanent bench board then I don't think there is anything wrong with the vas treatment.
Also I don't think you need Hondacity style vas treatment with an inch tall layer of goo covering everything, just a thin layer and then melt it with the heat gun so it goes everywhere in those hard to reach spots.
sin0822 说:
ew, i just use silicone grease, and unlike vas it is really hard to remove. But I found away using a part of my insulation method I no longer use: the rubber eraser. It is VERY absorbent and absorbs the grease right up, and if you let it sit on a piece of paper or a napkin, after time I think the grease goes to it and you can reuse the eraser to erase the grease. I still don't have the balls to toss my motherboard into a dishwasher lol.
Massman 说:
C'mon dude, don't be a troll ...
Bobnova 说:
Toooo late. Gigabyte troll, it's part of a viral marketing campaign for Gigabyte's next addition to the G1 motherboard series. The Gigabyte G1 Troll. It randomly tells you that you could do a better job OCing if you added some MHz. In the BIOS it plays a badly recorded audio version of The Billy Goats Gruff.
sin0822 说:
cute, except I am not a troll.
Massman 说:
You in denial phase? That's step 1
Splave 说:
Haha this thread needs a mop
sin0822 说:
hey is this the board coated or not coated? I am just curious, not trolling lol its the first full shot of the board I have seen.
Massman 说:
Damn, loving that display! No more LED
sin0822 说:
yea its actually a pretty cool thing
Dinos22 说:
it's cool to see someone using it, why not. I'm sure that guys with little experience will like this sort of thing . You will still have to insulate of course and be careful of some areas that obviously can't be covered with conformal like socket, dimm slots, PCIe pins, power pins etc. Most of us started out a long time ago with plastic spray and then realised it needed reapplication and further insulation so it was a bit of a pain and moved onto more effective methods such as LET (liquid electrical tape), blutac, rice (lol remember that) and then kneaded eraser and now straight up grease and paper towels which is still the ultimate and you will have to do it anyways. seems that board has mosfets and chokes greased up in the video also which would probably make sense if mosfets generate a lot of heat to make sure the don't overheat if conformal is applied over them i guess.
Vivi 说:
haha just kidding i know you mean it for real dino
Splave 说:
dino you forgot the hkepc kitty litter insulation
Dinos22 说:
How about flour mate. Those turkish guys were bloody innovative
Eeky NoX 说:
Baking Dino? Some eggs and butter, one bottle of Single M... and we arrive with Kenny Haha!
Air conditionner should be good too plus dehumidifier?? Can't wait tomorrow prep my insulations!!
Asmola 说:
Look's good!
BTW, have anyone tested extreme overclocking while computer is submerged to mineral oil and top of the LN2 pot is above the surface?
Eeky NoX 说:
Oil will freez?? Dangerous I think
Massman 说:
Mikeguava did it during the finals of GOOC 2010 in Taipei
Dinos22 说:
Mike "laxative" Guava is the man
leeghoofd 说:
Took this picture right before he smacked my face Ah yes the Fugger incident...
sin0822 说:
nice
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