AMD To Take Back Performance Crown At Default Specs With USD $795 5GHz FX Sku?

This might be interesting - a 5GHz stock "super"-FX that comes with a watercooling type of cooling. I wonder if the 5GHz chip will be enough to claim the title of fastest product at default specs!

AMD's focus for the start of this year has been on explaining the virtues of Accelerated Processing Units (APUs) and driving up gaming interest with the impressive Never Settle bundle, available for most mainstream and high-end Radeon cards.

With attention directed elsewhere, AMD's beleaguered FX processors have, it seems, been consigned to the ash heap of history. These chips do without the baked-in graphics present on APUs and, while perfectly reasonable in their own right, are overshadowed by Intel's third-generation Core 'Ivy Bridge' processors.

So how about this as a rumour for a Friday morning? Though AMD will never go on record and confirm this, we have it on good authority that the chip-maker will soon be releasing a super-FX chip. Based on the same 'Vishera' architecture powering the current FX-8350, which runs at up to 4.2GHz, this new FX, codenamed 'Centurion', is to be made available in very limited quantities.

This so-called Centurion is guaranteed to run at 5GHz, on air, though we don't know exactly what voltage or supporting hardware will be required for this lofty speed.

Here's the kicker; our sources indicate that this limited-edition chip is set to cost a whopping $795 - this is not a typo! Yup, back to the pricing of FX chips of old. Is there any way that you, the readers, can countenance such pricing for an architecture that's been in the doldrums of late?


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Belgium Massman says:

Sounds interesting!

India Toolius says:

Hope all of these will do 8Ghz + :)

Slovenia tiborrr says:

If not else it sure is a collectors item! :)

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

For me it's a joke :)

GENiEBEN says:

At 5GHz it will still not be on par with Ivy, nevermind Haswii. Nice collectors item tho, priced high enough to make it rare.

TaPaKaH says:

If they have the technology to make a CPU do 5GHz as stock freq, why not apply it to the cheaper models and be more competitive?
It's not that each of these 5G chips will cost them $500 to produce.

GENiEBEN says:

Sam OCX said: If they have the technology to make a CPU do 5GHz as stock freq, why not apply it to the cheaper models and be more competitive?
It's not that each of these 5G chips will cost them $500 to produce.


The wording is a little vague. It will be at 4.2 but will do 5.0 even if you're Joe Bootloop or is it 5.0 stock/turbo? Later option will be the fastest stock speed no doubt, surpassing the current 4.66 record.

United States BeepBeep2 says:

These are probably super ultra cherry picked CPUs, like magical 8 GHz over clocking samples AMD has previously given out...probably much more expensive to make than normal 8320/8350 because of tight tolerances

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

Maybe it sounds interesting, but not with 800 USD for normal Vishera core. Max price is 250 euro for me for this level of efficiency.

United States Bobnova says:

At what TDP? That's what I want to know. I seriously doubt it's a 125w chip.

United States Splave says:

releases 5ghz cpu....slower then stock intel 2 generations ago..

Belgium Steven86 says:

Splave said: releases 5ghz cpu....slower then stock intel 2 generations ago..

:D:D

South Africa Saito says:

8350 is better than a 2600k8350 performs better than i7 2600K so he is not slower than 2 two generations ago just a bitt slower than current

Poland Xtreme Addict says:

Vishera isn't so tragic, and for 24/7 use is not so bad choice. But for us, extreme ocers, it is only good for CPU-Z :banana:

Belgium leeghoofd says:

Saito said: 8350 is better than a 2600k8350 performs better than i7 2600K so he is not slower than 2 two generations ago just a bitt slower than current


You have been drinking what lately ? I want a taste of that :p

Vishera is even slower than bulldozer in my book in single threaded stuff, especially the ones that we like to run here...

They are not bad for 24/7, but the power usage level is nuts for 2012/2013....

For Ocing only CPU-Z valids are great with these FX CPUs, Thuban kicks bulldozer and Visheras ass in the rest clock per clock...

Italy Mafio says:

bah, IMHO, vishera CPUs are not bad like you guys are trying to make them look.
single thread performance and running over engineered 5 to 10 years old benchmarks are definitely not their best, but there are some things like files compression or compiling where they are quite good.
also lately intel is being pants on head retarded, as long as I know socket 1155 K CPUs do not have vPro, TXT, VT-d and SIPP, so one have to choose between overclocking and for example being able to use PCI passthrough to play games in a virtualized Windows from its linux box.
I also would like you to note that in the past 2 or 3 years intel wasn't able to develop a mid range platform not affected by some major issue.
2 years ago or so we had the whole "SATA ports dying issue" with the p67, h65 and h61 PCH, now we have shitty thermal paste between IHS and DIE on 350 € CPUs and with haswell not even being on sale we already know it will have some kind of USB 3.0 issue.
f(l)uck that shit, AMD CPUs are surely not flawless, but mid range intel stuff is nothing but overpriced horseshit.

just my 2 cents

Canada Vinster says:

$800 CPU, it better perform... and hope it competes with Intels $800 CPU, though I doubt it...

like many I'd love an AMD return... just don't know why they keep falling from the mark.

Go AMD, I still have faith.

Vin

FlanK3r says:

Ok....Im interesting for performance of CPUs many years in crazy hobby...Im reading all reviews of processors. Example is it around 20-50 reviews at one product. SO, really this is bullshit, Vishera is average in aplication very close to 4c/8t Sandy Bridge. If we can comparison Bulldozer and Vishera clock to clock, the difference is 4-10% for Vishera! This is higher improve than had SB to IB. In games many magazines founds difference between Bulldozers with Zambezi and Piledriver core from 5 to 19%! So... Vishera really changed Bulldozers name in practice. Power consumption is lower too. Huge different in power consumption is after OC. Bulldozer PC consumed around 400W with GPU in idle and CPU in load with max OC around 4800 MHz. Vishera with higher OC and the same voltages around 75W less. This is bad from AMD hatters? I dont like review with syntetic tests only as superpi, aida etc, because this is unusable in daily use. Many people working at PC with photos, videos, some making 3D, and of course gaming. In new games looks Vishera strong (Crysis3, Far Cry3, Bioshock Infinite, Arma 3...

older review, but hardware-fr are one of the best in test methody
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/880-1/amd-fx-8350-retour-amd.html

Belgium Massman says:

Interesting to see so many negative responses to this approach. I find it a rather interesting idea to overcome the obvious clock-per-clock performance deficiency of a product. With all the easy-to-install watercooling units on the market nowadays (like the H100), bundling it with your CPU in the form of a premium product is quite a good idea. We all know the Vishera CPUs are capable of 5GHz 8c8t with decent air cooling, but usually faces elevated temperatures and power draw. That is something those watercooling units may help to overcome. And if AMD, through the high overclock, brings the performance level of their 8c8t part to the level of a $800 Intel counterpart (which I don't believe) - cool! Fyi, the price of highly binned parts is not related to the production cost but the amount of time it takes to manually handpick the parts and verify they work at rated speeds. What goes for that $750 DDR3-3000 memory kit from Corsair goes for this $795 CPU from AMD: the handpicking cost is the main issue. Just think about it: if you test your CPU, how much time does that take to ensure 24/7 stability at the highest possible frequency? Add into account that you have to guarantee the part will not fail and there's a lot of verification that needs to be done.

United States ShrimpBrime says:

I've been an AMD fan for years. I now have an Intel 3770K.

This is just hype like the 1000$ Phenom II Tweaker. I did nothing besides hold some crazy price tag.

FX doesn't perform well with one core or 8 cores. Garbage.

FlanK3r says:

dont forgot ShrimpBrime FX-8350 is not so classic 8 core, but 4CU with 8 small cores. Its near of things as 4C/8T. And there are situation where is better than i7-3770K.

United States ShrimpBrime says:

What situation would that be? Certainly not gaming.

United States Mr.Scott says:

ShrimpBrime said: I've been an AMD fan for years. I now have an Intel 3770K.

This is just hype like the 1000$ Phenom II Tweaker. I did nothing besides hold some crazy price tag.

FX doesn't perform well with one core or 8 cores. Garbage.


Whether you choose to believe it or not, there is a market for these. Bottom line is always 'how much can we make' on it. If there wasn't an application, they wouldn't make them. Just because they're not a benchers dream doesn't make them a bad home or workstation processor.

United States ShrimpBrime says:

I shouldn't have said Garbage. I apologize for that statement.

No doubt there's an application for AMD FX. Just trying to figure out what that is?

So again I ask.... what would make this Cpu worth nearly 800$ at 5ghz?

GENiEBEN says:

^ There's always the e-penis left...

FlanK3r says:

it could be video encoding, specialy high definition 720P+ ,-)...And not only this. If you talking about gaming, what about Crysis 3 or Far Cry 3? In game resolutin are FPS the same...And I believe, with AMD gaming suppor we will see this situation often.

United States ShrimpBrime says:

So it's got 4 cores 8 threads and it's good for Crysis 3?

Is encoding DVDs legal now?

Belgium Massman says:

ShrimpBrime said: I shouldn't have said Garbage. I apologize for that statement.

No doubt there's an application for AMD FX. Just trying to figure out what that is?

So again I ask.... what would make this Cpu worth nearly 800$ at 5ghz?


It's not worth $800 just for the performance. It's the exclusivity and time it takes to bin you pay for. Oh, and "having the biggest" :).

United States ShrimpBrime says:

OH! Because the title states "taking back the "performance" Crown" I misunderstood the entire deal here.....

I had to give up my hopes for AMD. It's been to many years hoping. Finally accepted the facts after it being beaten into many AMD threads that the processors are under par, been under par and from the looks of it may always be under par.

Just a Bummed Shrimp with many hopes in one hand and crap in the other.

Italy Mafio says:

ShrimpBrime said: So it's got 4 cores 8 threads and it's good for Crysis 3?

Is encoding DVDs legal now?


video encoding is not DVD ripping + compression (which at least at my place is not illegal, as long as you are doing a backup copy for personal use only) :D

United States Schmuckley says:

ShrimpBrime said: OH! Because the title states "taking back the "performance" Crown" I misunderstood the entire deal here.....

I had to give up my hopes for AMD. It's been to many years hoping. Finally accepted the facts after it being beaten into many AMD threads that the processors are under par, been under par and from the looks of it may always be under par.

Just a Bummed Shrimp with many hopes in one hand and crap in the other.

Don't give up hope yet! :D
PS:Stop pooping in the other hand ;)

GENiEBEN says:

We may have found our poop in the shower guy :nana:

Italy Gigioracing says:

9ghzzzz incoming !!

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