100 pts Hellas Overclocking Team

Is there anyone who has the full set in his collection? Tried hard to avoid that!

The question is: Does anyone have any of that stuff? I can't even participate in a single stage haha.

Geared for all but stage 1.

Roman just got Ney'd

lol, +1 Roman... nothing

What is GT610?

Got everything else.

lol, CloudGate on GT610. I can still use the GT610 PCI (if it is allowed) from the CountryCup - slideshow detected? Is it going to start at all?

The only stage I can be competitive is the 1xAMD hwbotprime.

SDRAM - well, no way on super7 socket motherboard.

Can we use dual socket MB in Pentium II Wprime?

I think I have a pci SIS card for round 4, and will buy a GT610 for round 1, since I've been meaning to get a low profile/power + silent GPU for 2D benching anyway. Everything else though, NOOOOPE, way too old to keep around taking up valuable GPU storage space.

Looks like we can use semrpons for stage 2, unless i'm missing something. However, it's a big waste of time. I did it a month ago and a 6ghz sempron gets killed by a 4ghz celeron.

Massman, any chances to get more time? Some stuff isn't available in my desk

I've got all the gear except the GT610.

For Stage 4, there is no 3dfx card that can run 3dmark03... Even the V5 5500 can only run 3dmark99/00/01 and AM3.

Time to undust some obscure 3dfx cards

Looks like we can use semrpons for stage 2, unless i'm missing something. However, it's a big waste of time. I did it a month ago and a 6ghz sempron gets killed by a 4ghz celeron.

It even gets killed by a single-core Yonah and Penryn at 2.3-2.66GHz.

Not sure what's wrong, it looks worse than the difference in SuperPi by a big margin.

I will freeze mine for CB R15 anyway, so will do a couple of hwbotprime runs too.

Which GF GT 610 is allowed btw, there are in 4 afaik:

GF GT 610

GF GT 610 OEM

GF GT 610 PCI

GF GT 610 PCIe x1

I'm out zero gear for these setups... have fun, I'll grab some pop corn...

I'm gonna guess that Rasparthe has all this stuff once he gets done digging through his collection.

Was just about to say I have everything until I realized what I thought said Phenom II was in fact Pentium II

Nope not got everything then.

Geared for all but stage 1.

Me Too.

Need about 1.5-2 months to make a good Pentium 2 score

is the amd stage a single cpu or cpu thread? bit confusing

Ohh yeah AMD CPU HT on allowed ?

for stage 4 is a dual gpu ok or not?like the 3Dlabs Wildcat Realizm 800

is the amd stage a single cpu or cpu thread? bit confusing

Yes, this one. The intro seems to suggest a single core processor but the stage states that it is x1 CPU, meaning I can use a 8350?

Looks like a great competition!

Am I to understand that we are allowed to disable cores for SC2?

Because based on the the limitations and past competitions my understanding is that it must be ONE SINGLE CORE CPU and NO CORE DISABLING.

Just wanna be clear so I'll know.

Thank you...

is the amd stage a single cpu or cpu thread? bit confusing

Use 1 processor core(s) in total.

for stage 4 is a dual gpu ok or not?like the 3Dlabs Wildcat Realizm 800

Yes, allowed

Am I to understand that we are allowed to disable cores for SC2?

Because based on the the limitations and past competitions my understanding is that it must be ONE SINGLE CORE CPU and NO CORE DISABLING.

 

Just wanna be clear so I'll know.

Thank you...

Disabling cores is never allowed, so the CPU must be single core.

can i use nvidia 610m?

How do I know if my gpu is allowed in the "Rare Vendor" 3dmark03 stage?

What do you mean exactly for "Rare Vendor"?

There is a list of acceptable vendors in the stage page, under the rules of the stage.

'Only use SIS, XGI, Matrox, PowerVR, S3, 3DLabs, 3DFX videocards.'

Only use SIS, XGI, Matrox, PowerVR, S3, 3DLabs, 3DFX videocards.

Are the on-board (chipset) graphics allowed ???

Are they considered to be videocards ???

The Pentium II stage says :

Only use processors from the Intel Pentium 2 family.

Is it ok to use PII based Celeron (Mendocino)?

can i use nvidia 610m?

I'll add all the 610 variants. (so yes)

Are the on-board (chipset) graphics allowed ???

 

Are they considered to be videocards ???

Yup allowed. They are considered videocards .

The Pentium II stage says :

 

Is it ok to use PII based Celeron (Mendocino)?

All Processors allowed can be found under the hardware database, here: http://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=intel_pentium_2. So to answer your question: yes.

why no agp-only?

so real cool classic cards like voodoo 5 are chanceles against modern s3 .__.

i´ll try agp anyway >.<

apart from that a nice fun-competition

Voodoo won't run 3DMark 03.

Just wondering - am I the only one who has a full set of hardware (though, pretty medium to fight for rankings)?

I have all except stage #1 which is mainly the matter of buying it. But will probably participate only stage #3 and #5.

Actually Voodoo4/5 can run GT1... however it requires some sw hacks via 3D analyze...

http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1129&whichpage=64

3DMark03 runs with Alpha35 plus 3DAnalyze ( emulate Cube Maps ).

Small texture problems at the front of the planes and with transparency at the windows.

Result : 95 3DMarks with Voodoo4 PCI

As for the hardware - I have everything except the GeForce GT610. Maybe I'll buy one.

Actually Voodoo4/5 can run GT1... however it requires some sw hacks via 3D analyze...

Such tweaks are forbidden here @hwbot. It is forbidden to run benchmarks "indirectly".

Yes, I know.

I think the best benchmark for voodos is the 3Dmark 2000. Most of them can run it at default settings - V2 SLI and up. 3Dmark 99 is bit too much CPU limited.

It would be nice to have some competition with voodoos in the future.

+1

voodoo ftw! :woot:

Actually Voodoo4/5 can run GT1... however it requires some sw hacks via 3D analyze...

i have a voodoo 3 pci and dont run 3dmark 03 !!

i have a voodoo 3 pci and dont run 3dmark 03 !!

it's ok. no voodoo can run the 3dmark03 natively.

Pentium 2 Celeron socket 370 can run on competition ?

Which one exactly ?

this cpu is allowed??

http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/pentium_2_celeron_500mhz_s370/

Will 3d Analyze work with some of the other brand DX8 cards or is it Voodoo only?

Would have been nice if the bench would have been 01 / AM3, have on hand cards from most of the vendors, only one that will do 03 by design.

Will 3d Analyze work with some of the other brand DX8 cards or is it Voodoo only?

 

Would have been nice if the bench would have been 01 / AM3, have on hand cards from most of the vendors, only one that will do 03 by design.

it will work with other cards as well.

but for dx8 cards it's mostly useless, because dx8 cards already have the features 3d analyze emulates natively.

it will work with other cards as well.

but for dx8 cards it's mostly useless, because dx8 cards already have the features 3d analyze emulates natively.

Confused for a bit; Wiki showing the Voodoo line as DX8 cards thus the statement, Vintage3d, DX7 as well as a few other sites. Actually played a few games on the cards should have remembered.

Not seeing Matrox and 3Dlabs in the directory listing when browsing video cards, personally done a couple of Matrox cards.

yeah, the cards support dx8 but have no dx8 features like pixel shading. etc.

Aleslammer, anyway 3Danalyzer and stuff like that is forbidden at HWBot. Pixel shaders are required only for tests 2-4. First test doesn't need them (and works on GF4 MX without shaders).

The problem is with features like Cube maps and other, the Futuremark whitepaper describes them. And that's what Voodoo doesn't support AFAIK.

And the main one - how about 32-bit color on Voodoo? most of them don't support it.

Aleslammer, anyway 3Danalyzer and stuff like that is forbidden at HWBot. Pixel shaders are required only for tests 2-4. First test doesn't need them (and works on GF4 MX without shaders).

The problem is with features like Cube maps and other, the Futuremark whitepaper describes them. And that's what Voodoo doesn't support AFAIK.

And the main one - how about 32-bit color on Voodoo? most of them don't support it.

yep.

voodoo 4 and voodoo 5 support 32 bit.

the first test won't run natively on voodoos because it needs t&l as well as cubemaps like you said.

Oh, TnL. You're right Karl, another Voodoo's weak spot.

I guess , i cant participate with a board (Asus CUV4X) that cpu-z CANT read the memory speed ?

http://valid.canardpc.com/2nv9ep

There was special cpu-z for socket 370. Try it.

There was special cpu-z for socket 370. Try it.

link please.

*edit*

Are you talking about this one ?

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=53897

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=53897

We posted the same time.

Thank you.

For stage-1

http://hwbot.org/competition/feb_teamcup_warmup/stage/1240_cloud_gate_gt_610/

Can we also use the regular version of GT-520 ?

Which is the exact same product to GT-610 (simply renamed).

Exact same core (GF119) , exact same specs (Shaders / TMUs / ROPs = 48 / 8 / 4).

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/285/geforce-gt-520.html

No, only the GT 610

If you have a BP6 and don't win stage 3, shame on you.

It seems CPU-Z detects wrong SDRAM clock on VIA KT133 chipset.

CPU-Z states FSB + 33 MHz. 132 + 33 = 165 on screenshot below.

However the real mem clock is FSB + PCI (Aida 64 shows this correctly)... In this example calculation is:

PCI = 132/3 = 44 MHz

FSB = 132 MHz

Mem = 132 + 44 = 176 MHz

So the question is - can I submit the real clock (Aida 64) or stick to the (incorrect) CPU-Z value?

Try the latest cpuz

Same as 1.59.

Doesn't really matter as long as everybody submits the same way.

There was special cpu-z for socket 370. Try it.

It doesnt work.

on cusl2 and my other 370 the normal version works

Yup. But they are i815, cuv4x not

on cusl2 and my other 370 the normal version works

Yes because they are i815, but cuv4x have VIA chipset

WOW, easy first overall!

There seems to be a problem with the competition submissions. Not sure what's going on, but hopefully we can resolve this ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Stage 4: chrome 25 vs. wildcat 800?

might be interessting

whats the best non nvidia/amd-vga?

For your last statement I’d probably go with a S3 Chrome 540 GTX or S3 Graphics 5400E x2 if the latter made it the wild. The 20, 400 & 500 series cards are non-existent on Ebay figured there would be a few floating around somewhere must of had a little HTPC market share.

Yes, the only S3 Chrome available on ebay is the S25.

Anyway, I don't have the resources to compete, so good luck to other teams.

For your last statement I’d probably go with a S3 Chrome 540 GTX or S3 Graphics 5400E x2 if the latter made it the wild. The 20, 400 & 500 series cards are non-existent on Ebay figured there would be a few floating around somewhere must of had a little HTPC market share.

Are u sure u have it ?

Edit:

Can i suggest rule for stage 4 "At least 1% overclock of GPU"

u really have a 540 gtx? =O

not bad Ö_Ö

i also can´t compete. the xabre600 is best i have for this stage .__.